Harsh51186

Hi Guyz,

I am facing running problem with my Hornby class 50. I have some Radius 1 curves on my layout, I know its not recommended to run class 50 on such tight radius but i have no choice.

My problem is, when I run class 50 on very slow speed it gets even more slower on curves. In my opinion that is acceptable as radius 1 is not recommended but this happens even with 35-40% throttle. Also approximately at 75% throttle locomotive reaches its maximum speed. I was wondering this could be the issue of decoder and not class 50. As I was facing jerky movement in its acceleration. I had to set EMF function off to overcome this. Now it runs and accelerates as it should be. I have Roco z21 start & decoder in class 50 is from Hatton's own. 

Can anyone suggest how can i resolve the running issue on curves? also with throttle and speed range?

Thank you.

Kernow, Hattons and Gaugemaster have shipped to me here in Germany; I imagine most dealers do.

Thank you Dogmatix.

It sounds more like the decoder than Z21, I've found certain loco makes don't like certain decoders and the poor running happens on the NCE dcc system too. I couldn't get slow or smooth running with Bachmann decoders in the Hornby 153 but it's fine with a dcc concepts decoder. Have you got acceleration in to smooth out the steps as I found this a major issue with lgb decoders too because they were using 14 speed steps.

 

Don't go too off topic on this as the thread's on Z21 and you'll find better advice in other parts of RMweb on where to buy

Hattons itself is a good bet for shipping internationally and broad range of makes.

Thank you for your reply.

I have set speed steps to 128. 

Put the 50 on the programming track and read CV30. In the manual, if supported, will be a list of error codes. If there is no list (i.e. CV30 is not supported), start by carefully looking at the seating of the decoder, remove and reseat if required.

 

Your remaining questions do NOT belong in this thread, please ask them elsewhere.

Thank you for reply.

I will do it and see.

Also can anyone suggest some shops or websites for Hornby, Heljan and Bachmann which will ship locomotives to Germany?

Hello everyone,

I have Roco z21 white, recently i purchased Hornby class 50 with hatton's decoder. The problem I am facing is, when I ask class 50 to accelerate at predefined rate; after certain speed it directly jumps to the next possible speed. ( jerky movement). I am unable to understand is it because of the compatibility issue of decoder with z21? or something else.

Also I would like to buy new locomotive, I am considering Hornby class 56 or 60 and Heljan class 58 or 53. Can anyone suggest? I personally like the locomotive with all the axels driven, but Heljan with its heavy chassis overcome its only 4 axels driven mechanism for traction.

Thank you guyz.

Hi,

Can anyone help me with the matching the speed of 2 or more locomotives?

I have 1st loco ROCO BR 204 641-5 and another Roco 204 869-2. Both locomotives have original decoder from ROCO. (as both are from starterset)

I want to double head them. I spent many hours in matching their speed by adjusting cv 2,3,5 and 6. 

I have Roco z21 white with MM.(No WLAN).

Thank you in advance.

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Thanks PaulRhB

First, did you use the correct socket? Only the ones marked for the X-Bus should be used. Is the light on the z21 blue before trying to insert the MultiMaus? Is there are error reported on the Z21 app? Do you use the right cable (use the cable supplied with the MM, not a self-made one!) and have you tested it (it could be defective). The MM itself might be defective. Can you try the MM with a different booster (like the one that comes in the MM starter set, if you have that)? If you can, does it give you the same or even a different error?

Hi,

My z21 is itself from starter pack. Power adapter which comes in starter pack works fine with roco z21 central station but to have more current output, i bought myself ROCO 10718 transformer. I don't have z21 wlan package so, i cant use it with z21 mobile app. there are only two x bus ports and MM has got original wire provided by ROCO. Also ROCO 10718 has got right connector which goes into z21 central station, everything has its original wiring. I am concern with Roco 10718's current rating or voltage ratings. However as its being a ROCO and made for Roco so those numbers should be fine. also if anyone knows from where can I get the WLAN or wifi package for z21(white)?

ERR13 in the MultiMaus means it doesn't have an X-bus address. Disconnect and try again.

Hi Dutch_master

I tried as per your instruction but it doesn't work. Even if i disconnect multimaus from z21(white), indicator light of z21 turns Red.

can you help me further?

Thank you.

ERR13 in the MultiMaus means it doesn't have an X-bus address. Disconnect and try again.

Thank you, I will give a try

 

Good morning z21 group...probably you already know about this but just for your information I copy the email sent yesterday

 

I have purchased Fleischmann start set 631681 that is working perfectly.

After some days I have connected the Z21 starter to my wireless router TP Link TL-WR740N that should be the same model recommended by Roco/Fleischmann but with my surprise everything was connected in the right way but not working.

As I was not able to understand what was wrong this morning I have called your kind support that told me I have to by the wireless set 10814 and then I will get an unlock code to enable the LAN port of z21 start.

In my opinion this is not fair from your company; in fact z21 locked is not CLEARLY specified when you look at web page of 631681. Morover in the z21 website you do not specify this.

I don't want to buy a wireless set only to receive a code to unlock the z21 lan port.

Maybe I could take into consideration the possibility of buying only the code as today in most of homes there is a wireless network.

I still consider Fleischmann/Roco a good company but what is happening with this z21 starter is quite ridicoulus. I also think I am not the only one complaining about this situation.

 

maybe someone else had same issue

 

Hi,

I faced the same situation. In addition, I used to chase this wifi package on their website almost everyday for its availability and one night website shown that this item is available now, so i immediately made an payment. I was happy that finally i would be able to use it but, on 5th day after my purchase I got an email from ROCO saying, we had an issues with availability of this product and it was wrongly displayed on our website, so either we could refund you a full amount or you can wait till end of november 2016. I decided to wait as it was about 20 days. Now today I got direct refund and an email stating that we are refunding you a full amount as this item would be available in march/april 2017.

I am really irritated.

also yesterday i tried to connect ROCO 10718 transformer to my z21 (white) command station, but multimaus shows "error 13". As per my knowledge it is regarding the wire which connects command station to multimaus. (correct me if I am wrong). My set is new and everything is handled carefully. Can anyone help me please?

Thank you.

Hi Richard,

I have been following you since last 1 year.

I am planning to move from starter to big layout, however I am confused in selecting dcc system for the layout. I am considering Lenz LH 100 and LZV 101 OR ROCO Z21. Can you suggest me on this please?

Also Roco z21(white version) looks ok in my opinion.

Thanks.