St.Paddy9001

14 hours ago, 45125 said:

No by then it would have been one of Holbeck's 31/4s, 409,410 or 417.

 

Al Taylor.

Before the 31/4s, EE type3s and 4s, Peaks could work these services. The lunchtime working at one time was the loco off that mornings Garston/Trafford Park - Hull Freight liner which ran to Donny light engine.

 

Al Taylor

Thank you very much for your help.

3 hours ago, Enterprisingwestern said:

Slightly off topic, but a similar thing used to happen with the Halifax train, although a 55A Sulzer 2 was the locomotive rostered.

 

Mike.

Hello Mike

Thanks for this information. Do you know whether the Sulzer power continued on this train into 1977?

Thanks very much to the both of you for taking the trouble to reply. I knew someone on this forum would know!

During the mid-to late 1970's a couple of services from Hull to Kings Cross were attached to carriages from Leeds at Doncaster, going forward to the 'Cross together. The Hull portion was marshalled next to the train loco southbound but trailed the Leeds portion northbound from Kings Cross. My question is; which loco worked through to London from Doncaster, was it the loco from Leeds or from Hull?

Any assistance would be very much appreciated.

On 21/06/2020 at 11:32, Wheatley said:

...The 170s were designed for sustained 100mph running, not to trundle around the Nidd valley in first gear, the 158s are better suited to that. Hence the poor reliabilty - you can have all the engines working, or all the gearboxes, or all the aircon, but rarely all 9 together. They've been better since they went onto the Leeds/Selby and Sheff/Brid services - fewer stops and less opportunity to overheat.

 

The actual deployment of units seems to change with each timetable change though - the through services to/from Hull were 155s (traction knowledge again) then stopped, then reinstated. The extra unit which forms the 17.45ish from York was a 150 before covid19 as it was dropped off from a 4 car set earlier in the day, and a four car of anything longer than 150s is too long for half the platforms. I've no idea whats on there at the moment !

Thanks for your comprehensive reply! Do you know whether the 158's used are 2-car, 3-car or a mixture?

3 hours ago, TomJ said:

Class 170s from Scotrail mostly. An improvement from when it was pretty much anything that was just about moving - often of the Pacer variety. Still a pretty poor service with frequent cancellations and overcrowding. 
 

can you tell I live locally and use it frequently.....?

Thanks very much for taking the time to reply - so no sign of 195's taking up the services?

3 hours ago, Mark Saunders said:

Last week it was 170's and 158's.

Thanks very much for your reply.

Hi there!

I am wondering whether someone can enlighten me as to which class(es) of DMU are currently operating the Leeds-York services via Harrogate?

7 hours ago, Downendian said:

The years 1974-77 were at the peak of our visits to York, a very popular Merrymaker destination in the 1970s from Bristol. A brief look at my spotting notes has York visits on both 5/3/77 and 2/4/77.

DMUs noted included classes 101 and 124 (previously mentioned) but also Hammerton street allocated class 104 and 110, and a South Gosforth class 105 (Cravens ) unit. 

Edit : from my personal experience trans-pennine class 124s were very common at York 1974-1977, (sorry service they were on not noted). We saw them every time I visited there.

Neil 

Thank you very much for your reply. I assume that the '124's would have been utilised on York/Liverpool DMU services, of which there were a couple each day. A photo on Flickr shows a 124 leaving Scarborough on what appears to be a Liverpool train which formed the 13.08 service from York, although how it got to Scarborough is anyone's guess as there was not a balancing service shown in the WTT.

8 hours ago, jools1959 said:

If you can find a DMU locoshed directory for that year, any units based at Leeds Neville Hill (NL) and Hull Botanic Gardens (BG) would give you a good guide as to what units probably would appear at York.  I’m pretty sure that you wouldn’t go far wrong with Class 101 and 108.

 

I’m pretty sure that the Class 124 Trans Pennine units rarely, if ever worked out York.  I think their main route was Hull, Leeds, Manchester Victoria and Liverpool, but I stand to be corrected.

Thanks very much for your help!

3 hours ago, 55020 said:

 

Agreed, 124s did "regularly" visit York. 

In addition to NL and BG DMU's, there were services run from the North East.  So Darlington allocated DMUs were also common.

 

 

 

Steve

Thanks very much for your help - quite a variety of classes to choose from!

3 hours ago, Western Aviator said:

Have you tried looking on Flickr? A quick search with “York Train 1977” brought up thousands of images (not all relevant, of course) including several DMU types and a class 124. 

Yes, you are correct there! Thanks very much for the 'Heads-Up'!

Looking at possibly undertaking a project on York in 1977 and I was wondering if I could rack your collective brains with a couple of queries.

1. Where was the Motorail Loading Bay situated?

2. Was there a dedicated platform(s)  for Parcels services?

3. What classes of DMU were operating out of York around that time and were they used on 'dedicated' routes?

4. Lastly, did the Class 124 Trans-Pennine units operate scheduled services out of York?

I very much hope that you will be able to help me - thanks in advance!

My apologies for not replying earlier. Thank you both for your help!

Hi there

I know I have seen it somewhere but for the life of me I can't find it when I need it! Could some kind soul inform me when bidirectional running first started on the Cowlairs Incline out of Queen Street?