Young60

Hi Richard many thanks. There's so much to grasp and so many opinions, good to hear exoerience speak:).

Regards to you and all. Happy modelling.

Adrian

I wouldn't get too concerned about what glue to use. If you intend on ballasting the track then the glued ballast will transfer noise to the baseboards regardless of what measures you have taken with the cork underlay. I've been using copydex to fix my cork and track down as it allows for removal in case I make a mistake. Hope that helps.

Hi Richard. First let me say well done. Been dipping into your videos for the last twelve months, since I decided to come back to Model Railways after many many years. I've a question for you which you may be able to answer from your experience. And for other subscribers to comment too of course. All welcome!

My present position is that I've set up the baseboard, now due to fix cork underlay all over. I bought 1.5mm cork. Following this I will lay 2.5mm cork for actual track base. However....

Am completely bemused about which glue to use. Reasearch indicates PVA is good but since hardens when dry, will actually transmit motor noise to boards, not deaden sound. Copydex or other latex glue although good for sound, binds drill bits and would tear, besides the frustration of binding.

Happy to hear which you or anyone here thinks best.

Many thanks in advance,all.

Adrian

I've been busy again! Finished laying the fiddle yard today and I'm relieved its done as it took me ages. Track is on a base of 4mm cork and its all the old code 100 from the old layout. As usual I've filmed it all so feel free to check it out...

 

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQE_l2NA40g

 

Have an excellent Christmas and I hope like me you'll get some time to work on your layout over to coming days.

 

Cheers

Hi Alun. Many thanks.

All, very helpful. Managing to discuss with all of you, helps to no end.

Regards

Adrian

Hi Adrian,

 

I know a bit more about the subject than when I originally asked the question (more than 4 years ago). 

 

My son has a rake of these.  They have under-scale wheels (should be 14mm) and as far as I know, 12.5mm wheels aren't available in 2 hole and 4 hole varieties.  3 hole wheels would have been for trucks and when I changed the original plastic wheels for metal, I ended up using solid disk wheels on the basis that your eyes aren't going to be drawn to them and are the least non-prototypical, if you follow.  The real things would have most likely been fitted with 4 whole wheels when new, but that could have changed as wheels and wheelsets were changed.

 

You might be interested in my gallery...  https://www.flickr.com/photos/alunhughes/albums/72157633073536014

 

Alun

Hi Alun, all. Many thanks. I decided on having the R8096. My reason is that the wheel size I have today on the rake of R434 and R474 coaches is per the details in my post of 2nd July, ie the diameter is 12.5mm. Please correct me, I don't know if the bogie box would take the 14.1mm. Spares shops have tried telling me to take the R8218 set, but these are the 14.1.. so am I correct do you think if I insist on the R8096 12.5mm, or are the 14.1mm R8218 just as good? How about any matching up between heights of different coaches as regards issues with coupling if some are 12.5 others are 14.1 diameter?

Hope you can help cos I need to buy quite a few sets and since I live outside Uk, postage come high!

The attached photos show what I have today

Thanks and regards to all

Adrian

Hi Adrian,

 

I know a bit more about the subject than when I originally asked the question (more than 4 years ago). 

 

My son has a rake of these.  They have under-scale wheels (should be 14mm) and as far as I know, 12.5mm wheels aren't available in 2 hole and 4 hole varieties.  3 hole wheels would have been for trucks and when I changed the original plastic wheels for metal, I ended up using solid disk wheels on the basis that your eyes aren't going to be drawn to them and are the least non-prototypical, if you follow.  The real things would have most likely been fitted with 4 whole wheels when new, but that could have changed as wheels and wheelsets were changed.

 

You might be interested in my gallery...  https://www.flickr.com/photos/alunhughes/albums/72157633073536014

 

Alun

Hi Alun many thanks. Yes, saw your gallery. Many different options but as you say, 4-hole seem prevalent. Given that some of the coaches I have seem to have unchanged wheels and these were disc, I'll look to obtain the disc metal ones as replacement.

Thanks all again.

BTW, wonderful to learn why the wheels had holes, too.

Adrian

Hi All.

Am just returning to the hobby and found these posts. Wonder if anyone still monitors them and would be helpful enough to reply !

My query is this. I've bought some second-hand Hornby LMS coaches - R434, R474. I've found some of them have mixed wheels, spoked ones too. I've asked some spares shops - over internet, about replacements so that I bring them all to the same standard and I was told Hornby R8097 are a 'direct replacement'. However, these are 3-holed disc. Can anyone confirm these are correct, or should I go for R8096 which are full disc? You realise I'm a bit confused. The wheels I have in plastic are 14mm on the axel-inside-wheels, 12.6mm diameter and 26mm from one axle-point to the other.

Hope you can help.

BTW, I'm trying to model around the '40s era.

Thanks,

Adrian

This question has been asked before:

 

http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/109116-track-underlay-how-wide/

 

(On this occasion I knew about the thread, because it was me that asked the question.  But a Google search of 'cork underlay width rmweb' would have turned it up as the fifth hit.)

Hi, many thanks. Found it. Still learning best way to go about this message board. A

Hi All. Just getting back to modelling after many many years. So lots of questions. Was seeing this thread. Am usuing OO. My q is, when I cut out underlay for the track - how much wider than the track shall I cut ob each side. Intebd to ballast afterwards. Thanks Adrian