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On 21/10/2019 at 17:43, MGR Hooper! said:
Heljan have revealed the artwork for the upcoming Class 86s:-
Well done Heljan for spotting 86034 is unique but still lacks being MW fitted and has Two compressors, 86 036 also has Two compressors.
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On 27/10/2019 at 17:12, BR(S) said:
Not sure if this has been posted anywhere else, but painted EP of 86034 here:
Why Have Heljan chosen a non standard version the data position is correct for 034 but this unique, and was mw fitted, the number seems to be slightly low and sandbox filler slightly high
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13 hours ago, woodenhead said:
A broken down APT-P with a prototype HST power car at one end hauled by a class 37
Failing that, a Trans Pennine unit but of the Mk1 type not the 185 type.
Top line gets my vote, is it time to put the kettle on Fran?
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On 28/12/2018 at 00:59, gazwire said:
First of all it's great that your re-toolling the 86. The main required improvement for me is the cab windows and I'm really encouraged to see the
cad design, earlier on in this thread, potentially reflecting this.
May I plead and concur with eagle50043 that I would absolutely cherish models of the 86/2 in BR blue with the domino lights as these
were so ubiquitous around the 70/80s. Also, It would be amazing if you could produce the 86 in varying 'raspberry ripple' intercity liveries
during the 80/90s, especially with the renewed interest in AC electrics modelling and fantastic new rolling stock on offer for this period.
Their were only two 86's that carried the domino lights 235 & 251
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Hi,
I'm just shuffling my diesel depot about. I've also "shut" a remote two-road DMU depot and moved them into the diesel depot.
I've built two new roads in the depot and placed the Bachmann two road train care shed over them to provide for carriage cleaning and light maintanence.
So my question is, would this have happened in prototype?
Cheers
Hi,
I'm just shuffling my diesel depot about. I've also "shut" a remote two-road DMU depot and moved them into the diesel depot.
I've built two new roads in the depot and placed the Bachmann two road train care shed over them to provide for carriage cleaning and light maintanence.
So my question is, would this have happened in prototype?
Cheers
Hi,
Eastfield (Glasgow, [old diesel depot]), Cricklewood (London, [old diesel depot]), Laira (Plymouth).
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I'm pretty sure that Blue/Grey predated classifying the seated area of the Buffet as First Class
Not so see link https://www.flickr.com/photos/blue-diesels/7620732316/in/album-72157604142594351/ not all the remaining non executive liveried Mk 3 RFB had the yellow band applied as this was done over one weekend at depot level due to the introduction of the weekend first supplement.
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DRS seems to be a rather popular livery for locos and stock.
How about some different types of nuclear flasks for them to pull? there are a number of different designs apart from the type made by Bachmann, and a large double bogie one (probably not viable that one in RTR). There are also the military nuclear carriers which go from the nuclear sub berths to selafield.
Large double bogie one (probably not viable that one in RTR). The older variant has been done already in HO.
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I'm pretty sure Willesden had a diesel fueling point for Class 08s and 25s just outside the depot building ... and it was an electrified line into the depot
This was the case for many years the present fuel point is no longer under the wires.
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Willesden Low Level. But here the 3rd rail terminates in the bay platform and the two through platforms are shared by 3rd and 4th rail stock.
Regards, Ian.
Hi Ian 4th rail still present after Sep 2017 relay in concrete sleepers.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/32413393@N00/23776926798/in/album-72157594347504922/ Link dated October 11, 2017.
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NLR - Euston / Watford conversion date was March 1977, I seem to recall.
Don’t forget that all of the NLR/LNWR electrification was originally four-rail. I’m never sure exactly when the bits not shared with the Bakerloo were converted to three-rail, but I think coincident with the BR trains being introduced.
Nowadays, Harrow and Wealdstone qualifies, as terminal point of LU services, while others continue to Watford.
As you’ve drawn your layout, it is a nightmare of conflicting movements, so it won’t be popular with operators or commuters!
The most similar station I can quickly think of is Rayners Lane (all four-rail) on the Met and Picc, which has a junction just short of the station and a significant proportion of terminating trains (at least until a couple of years ago, not totally sure now), but there the turnback siding is beyond the station, to allow trains to be tucked out of the way. It’s your bay platform that creates all the trouble!
KevinYes still the same today, pre September 2017 * Piccadilly Line Trains can also Reverse in the West bound platform mostly used for ECS back to South Harrow Sidings.
* Rayners Lane Junction was relaid on concrete sleeper's I have not checked if the formation was like for like.
Willesden High Level, was certainly 3rd rail only by 1981
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No Ken, they were [A] Black Gloss - I'm glad you got yours in a bag. The first one (an SO) I took out came out of the box with 4 fitted, ended with none. Recovered three. None of them appeared to have been glued in.
p.s. Has anyone a contact email address that actually works for Oxford Rail apart from the group address on the website? I've tried twice and don't seem to get a response.
ICSW_Stepboard.jpg ICSW_3aFOSORef.jpg[Edit] Detail Reference Table added. Who will be the first to spot the use of Silver White?
The silver white refers to the colour of the ‘1’ between the droplight and the toilet window.
Oxford rail seem to have muddle up the swallow white as per DVT’s part locomotives and HST power cars, with Executive light Grey!
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Try this link, the locomotive is 1/2 scale ! Replica. http://www.ruisliplidorailway.org/mad-bess of Blanche.
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Good morning,
There are lots of brilliant "photos of..." threads on here so thought I would start one on AC electrics which hasn't been covered yet...I think!
Feel free to add photos from the electric blue days to today.
Here is a couple from my collection to kick things off.
Both taken in the late 80's near Kenton, first up, 87010 "King Arthur" in Intercity livery on a sleeper, possibly ECS working.
27 - 87010-1 - Copy (1280x851).jpgIntercity liveried 86245 "Dudley Castle" on an up TPO/parcels.
46 - 86245-1 - Copy (1280x865).jpgBest regards,
Jeremy
Jeremy ,
although you do not say the year. I would say this is the Lancaster Pulman which conveyed empty sleepers.
alan
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Good morning,
A day off work today (with the wife at work and our little man now at school) has allowed me a day to get a few things progressed on the loco fleet. So out came the airbrush this morning!
37401 was first up and has now been glossed ready for transfers. Here she is prior to glossing - she now looks really shiny!!
Next up was the 91. I masked off and sprayed on the yellow warning panels. A few dusty yellow leaks through the masking can be seen around the cab doors but these have now been wiped clean away with some thinners.
I've decided to have a go at scratch building some new cab front window frames on this so we shall see how they turn out. I think it will be worth the effort and make a difference from the Farish one with the front looking more accurate if I can get it right.
Last up was 86210 and the pantograph well has received a thin coat of executive light grey. I've also touched in the TDM bits and added the bufferbeam detail. Just one more pipe to add now. Does anyone know whether the side cab window frames were painted black on this one? I've had a look at some photos and it's really difficult to tell.
After lunch I'm planning on getting on with the fiddle yard approaches from the station on templot. Should be fun!
Best regards,
Jeremy
Try this link
http://www.platformart.co.uk/photos/large/archive/48.jpg
alan
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Acton has six (that's just the ones called Acton) and technically it is a town, though I know it probably breaks your rule.
Harrow is further out and has five on the same basis, Hampstead also.
I believe Bristol has six that lie within the city boundary - Temple Meads, Lawerence Hill, Stapleton Road, Montpelier, Redland and Clifton Down.
Ruislip also had six until recently Ruislip, Manor (Tfl Metropolitan / Piccadilly). South*, Gardens, West* (Central Tfl * also served by Chiltern) Lido (Now Renamed Willow Lawn (Ruislip Lido Railway)).
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http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/87250-chinese-ho-exhibition-layout/ see Post's 268/294/301/304/499/511/590/607 this uses 3 or 4mm sides / ends / strengtheners with 6mm tops scenic boards only may be my good friend TEAMYAKIMA can give you more details.
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There was talk one time of closing both St Pancras & King's Cross and building one "super" station to serve both routes.
The nearest to that is the rebuilt LUL complex that now serves both.
Keith
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Didn't Midland trains to the North originally depart from King's Cross & Euston before their new line was built to St Pancras?
Some of the original destinations from Euston https://www.google.co.uk/maps/uv?hl=en&pb=!1s0x48761b2434dc939d:0x6080d64ac88756f9!2m22!2m2!1i80!2i80!3m1!2i20!16m16!1b1!2m2!1m1!1e1!2m2!1m1!1e3!2m2!1m1!1e5!2m2!1m1!1e4!2m2!1m1!1e6!3m1!7e115!4shttps://ssl.panoramio.com/photo/14268298!5sEuston+station+-+Google+Search&imagekey=!1e4!2s14268298&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwio-ZXBvv_VAhXLK8AKHb2pA9MQoioIhgEwDA
https://pastinthepresentdotnet.files.wordpress.com/2014/02/img_1110.jpg
https://www.kripton.ga/filew/LNWR_lodge_Euston_right.jpg
http://l7.alamy.com/comp/J1WYAK/euston-tap-cider-bar-euston-station-J1WYAK.jpg
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Acton has six (that's just the ones called Acton) and technically it is a town, though I know it probably breaks your rule.
Harrow is further out and has five on the same basis, Hampstead also.
I believe Bristol has six that lie within the city boundary - Temple Meads, Lawerence Hill, Stapleton Road, Montpelier, Redland and Clifton Down.
I make it Seven for Acton:- Acton Mainline (First), West,North,East (Central Tfl), Central, South (London Overground Tfl) Town (Piccadilly Tfl)
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Talltim is talking way before the BedPan electrification and Thameslink. In the 60s BR was seriously looking at closing St.Pancras and diverting trains either into Kings Cross or Euston. Indeed the original "flap" departure and arrivals boards at the "new" Euston were fitted from new with Midland line destinations from Market Harborough northwards in readiness.
An Earlier proposal By The LMS in the 1930 rebuilding of Euston, (only Stanier House was realised), was to have an underground station for the DC Line which was to link with the Middland and extend the DC operation to Bedford
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Would have to be a class 313. I believe I have seen a kit for one.
I heard that they also used 2-EPBs in this area for a short while, but I guess these would have been to supplement the 313s & therefore not the regular stock used for the Watford service.
The 2-EPBs where used on the North London Line North Woolwich to Richmond replacing the class 501( class 501 did not get to North Woolwich only Broad Street. class 313 served mainly Stratford but also Liverpool Street, instead of Broad Street from Watford via the Graham Curve). the 2EPBs where then replaced by the Class 313 which have now been replaced by class 378 ( Stratford only). On the Euston - Watford line the class 501 were replaced by the 313 which have now been replaced by class 378.
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Although you do not mention a period, from your post you are looking at post privatisation so I would put forward Old Oak Common with the Eurostar ( now Hatachi plus 387's ) Opposite [ the other side of the running lines] Heathrow Express, First ( Manly HST). Going back in the same area you would have the headshunt buffer stop end of Mitre Bridge Shed [LNWR / LMS electric units] a bridge length (over the Grand Union Canal), from the GWR Old Oak Common(different height and at right angle to it ). Mitre Bridge Shed itself was briefly opposite todays Willesden TMD with both being close to the steam Shed, the same side as Mitre Bridge Shed, and briefly co-exsiting with the current Willesden TMD. Willesden has muiltiple TOC's using it Arriva Rail London, GBrail freight plus private owner.
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Yes MK1 BFK / BSK / BG MK2 BFK / BSO trains would depart from the Backing Out Roads to platform 7 or higher ( some having been propelled from the Camden wash machine as mentioned else were it was standard practice for the guard or shunter to apply the brake so the first, becoming the last coach stopped in line with bottom of the ramp from the passenger concourse. As WCML became air braked MK1 BG at london end MK2 cdef BSO country end from Euston became the norm up until late 80's then just BG's until replaced by MK3 DTV
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And of course there was the legendary 2A23, & 1A23, aka The Milk Empties, which ran at 0235 or 0350, all stations Euston to Bletchley, Mo-Sa. This ran from sometime around the Creation, to about 1988? (ish), and usually consisted of a battered Mk1 BSK, which had defnitlely seen better days, a BG & a couple of GUV's. Motive power was (usually) cl 81-85/86, with at least classes 25, 31, 37 & 47 also known to have put in an appearance. The acceleration with an AC electric & 3 or 4 mk1's was tremendous!
Why it was called the Milk Empties I don't know, I would imagine sometime up until the 1960's it probably did carry empty churns, but mostly it seemed to carry sleeping railwaymen returning home off duty!
Stuff of legends eh, South of 1A? :-)
cheers N
The 0235 was the Watford News and was a single GUV hauled by a class 25 usually. 0350 first stop was Queens Park it also would stop at wn and wn brent sidings before it next passenger stop at Wembly, fast or slow line the; BSK was replaced with a SK in NSE days and this SK was the last coach of the Cobbler fleet to receive the NSE livery, and most usually BG BSK (later SK) BG
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I did this with my TT stock back in the day.
Advantages: Easy to uncouple by hand and avoids couplings tangling.
Disadvantages: Stock will only couple one way around, locomotives will need one end with a hook* so the usual bare loops for realism cannot be adopted and a slightly increased tendency to spurious uncoupling.
* Both ends if the layout incorporates a turntable.
It might also affect resale value, but the couplings are quite easy to replace in this case, especially if the rivet is removed rather than breaking off the bracket.
With some of the more modern couplings the hook unclips and is easy to remove and replace for trials. In the case of the Mainline couplings take care not to lose the spring!
I to did this with the 'oo' coupling if you use sprung still wire you can get delayed coupling this is was copied from an article in one of the mags, I later updated to using the 'mainline' both also used hidden electromagnets for remote uncoupling. I agree with the others choose one type only for all stock. Have an arrow in the fiddle yard(s) to help you maintain all stock is the correct way round.
DVT's and Coaching stock in BR days on the WCML
in UK Prototype Questions
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Hi Simon,
The DVT appeared at the time of the change in Intercity livery from the use of executive grey to falcon grey so both these liveries and executive livery would all be seen the Eu-Brum - Wols services was the first to go over to DVT operation.
Regarding DVT's and B/G only test / training trains would give this combination.
http://www.traintesting.com/MK3_DVT.htm
https://www.flickr.com/photos/86020500@N06/8046699971