Bucoops

2 hours ago, Steamport Southport said:

Has anyone tried flagging up stuff that is actually dodgy? You'll see how they operate if you did.

 

 

Jason

Yup, not just rip-off wheels, but stolen property (and provable), counterfeit high-value collectables, all sorts of things. Outcome? Diddly squat. I keep telling myself not to bother any more but muggins still does it.

On 29/03/2024 at 16:14, Ollie K said:

Hopefully the brake / kitchen third pair with destination board mounts moulded into the roof is a symptom of LNER and BR period model bits being mixed up for the undecorated prototype. As far as I can tell there were no roof board mounts during LNER days. 

Only on the spare set I think.

I worked for a couple of weeks at a place that specialised in sourcing electric valves - one of my roles in the brief time I was there was to unbox cheap Chinese made valves, use wire wool to remove the branding, and pass them to someone who used a little machine that re-branded them as Mullard. Impressed, I was not. In hindsight I should have gone to trading standards, but I was in my late teens and just wanted out. I don't think they are still trading thankfully.

Don't forget there is also the current issue of fake parts in jet engines, traced back, allegedly, to a London based company.

"Rife" comes to mind.

Ebay would appear not to be interested in fake goods being sold on their site, despite what they say. There's a UK based seller that has wheels on sale using one of the major brands, but they are clearly the cheapo ones included in the monthly magazine type build a whatever. They have been reported countless times, including by the genuine manufacturer, but they're still for sale.

Hopefully someone has one of these in their "spares stash"? For some reason, the Finney kit I have came with two double chimneys. Far too long ago to ask for Brassmasters to replace it. Happy to use one or both of the doubles in part-ex.

Thank you :)

Not out of the realms of possibility to use it for ULF I suppose, but you're relying on its characteristics to remain pretty constant, and as we know the railway its constantly evolving. Sorry, we can't message our subs because there's weekend engineering works and a whole load of rail has been removed for replacement.

5 hours ago, brossard said:

 

I bought these for my Gresley kits.  Very useful drawings, however, next to no info on underframe detail.

 

John

Agreed - underframe detail for LNER stock is hard to find. The major source of info I would suggest is Mike Trice (creator of MJT, now sold through Dart).

https://www.westernthunder.co.uk/test21/threads/gresley-carriages-in-detail.9809/

1 hour ago, meatloaf said:

Mine were deffo a rule 1 purchase as i model the br green diesel era 

Thank you all that have replied. There's definitely a large element of Rule 1 as I don't think they would have been seen in 1938 on the GE Mainline 🤓

They can run with a blue 37 for the most part.

1 hour ago, kevinlms said:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydraulic_rescue_tool

Ok that definitely pre-dates these pillars. It was a London Fire Brigade member that mentioned it, perhaps it was when they were brought into use here? Or perhaps complete codswallop. Either way, he said they hated take the roof off them as the structure was so strong.

9 hours ago, SteveyDee68 said:

Back in the late 1980s, the Head of the School of Music at my College drove one of those - but an orangey yellow shade, difficult to describe.

 

He said he owed Saab his life - involved in a head-on collision with an articulated lorry on the A1 … his car ended up in the tractor unit … lorry driver didn’t survive, fire crew cut him out with a few scratches and told him that if he had been driving any other car …

 

Accepted a lift up the College drive from him once … closest I have ever been to experiencing the type of G force acceleration more typically experienced by fighter pilots in jets!! I’d barely got my seatbelt on when I was taking it off again! 
 

Only found out on Sunday that Saab have long driven off into the history books…

 

Steve S

Apparently (not seen actual proof) the "jaws of life" were invented because the windscreen pillars on Saab 99s and onwards were made of so many layers of steel they had big trouble cutting the roofs off crashed ones. When TopGear did a farewell Saab feature they dropped a BMW 3 series and a Saab 900 on their roofs. I know which one I would rather be in a crash in!

https://www.saabplanet.com/how-tough-is-a-saab/

1 hour ago, Paul H Vigor said:

Batmobile!

Blatmobile more like ;)

Did Deltics ever lump these around in blue-grey?

Hope so!

4 minutes ago, hayfield said:

 

I have both owned and driven worse back in the late 70's and 80's

Likewise in the 90s (my first two cars were Allegros!).

I did get it patched up and MOT'd for a few years - even took it round Bruntingthorpe Aerodrome (where I span it braking from about 110 in torrential rain and hit a drain cover which made the brakes somewhat out of balance 😁). I say about 110, the clock only goes up to 120 and it was way past that but as we know, the accuracy of 1970s speedos is debatable!

1 hour ago, hayfield said:

I dip in and out of this thread mainly to cheer up. Looks like a barn find to me, but then what do I know (not much!!) Dry dust rather than grime that outside items grow

 

Saab's not been made for years, a collectors item

 

 

It looked a lot better after a wash - but it also made the rust VERY visible! It's currently in a queue for restoration down in Bristol.

35 minutes ago, Sjcm said:

I like how the paint is like "a car found in a barn".  Minus marks for not mentioning patina

Generally "a car found in a barn" doesn't have much paint visible in my experience!

10 hours ago, mullie said:

The  5 minute rule at parents evening doesn't work,  that is why many staff are there long after closing time.  Fortunately, no longer my problem........usually!

 

Martyn 

 

Our school has started (or rather continued after covid) online video call parent evenings. Works very well, you get a 9 minute slot, and after 8 minutes a red box appears with a count-down, and bang on 9 minutes you get cut off. Then the teacher gets one minute to get ready for the next one.

Perhaps a red-amber-green system like they used at Live-Aid? Then when it goes red, the floor revolves for the next person to appear? 🤓

I'd rather have this. But getting the livery spot one would be a heck of a challenge.

iphone? I thought Accurascale clientele were above toys? 😉

24 minutes ago, Michael Hodgson said:

 

Yes, that's a non authentic operating practice.  When I was young buses didn't have conductors. 

That was considered women's work (like being a typist) - buses had "clippies", or as they were offcially called, conductresses.

Driving of course was a man's job.

 

Andre Previn might have had a few words to say about that. Perhaps not in the right order though.

16 minutes ago, Hroth said:

 

I was trying to be polite...  😁

 

This is ebay madness you know?

On 28/03/2024 at 20:59, TJ52 said:

So many I can't understand why the question was asked!

 

Terry

To broaden knowledge, and it also serves as a good resource for future reference. My layout will be over a road and may well need some creative licence to make it fit so a few good examples doesn't hurt.

I think my preference on this would be to have the roof, ends and sides as a 5 sided box, then have the floor removable, so perhaps start with the nice rigid roof as ground zero? Also probably easier to alter the floorpan width than the roof?

That would be my approach I think, but having the roof removable is also totally valid - especially as there's a nice closed in area for the boiler gubbins to have mounting screws, and perhaps hooked into the far end to hold it in place?

Either way, Hornby own BL now so it's legit like, innit?

2 hours ago, adb968008 said:

In the often quoted USA, land of liability and lawsuits…

 

I enjoyed a high speed ride from New York Penn station to Newark the other week with this as my view, and fresh air for my journey.

 

 

 

i could have hung on to the platform on the loco for some urban surfing there.

 

 

 

adding to this on departure the guard was actually at this door, and simply walked off down the train, obviously its not his job description to secure it, which would have been preferable as it was winter weather afterall.

The Americans can offer a very nice veranda view (and yes I was hanging onto the reins, just in case!) - not a million miles from where you were - Lancaster County PA.

I must have been unlucky then as the Gresley 52'6 etches I bought from Worsley have the wrong end profile, and the sides too low. 🙁 However, the GER 50ft bodies and NER Clerestory roofs seem to be much better.

7 hours ago, Jeremy Cumberland said:

They'll likely succeed with the public opinion part.

 

Outside of the railway industry, I don't see anyone making counter-arguments. ORR doubtless feel it's not their business to get into a public argument; they don't even have grounds for a press release or public statement unless WCRC make an outright accusation.

 

The general public have no idea of the dangers of slam doors. Many of us are old enough to remember their being the norm, and no harm ever happened to us, personally, did it? The numerous injuries and deaths that did occur were not widely reported, and the eventual move away from slam doors was prompted by awareness within British Rail, who commisioned a report from the HSE, not from public pressure or any sort of press campagin.

 

Will the ORR back down? I have no idea, but given the spinelessness of today's politicians, I wouldn't be too surprised to find the ORR being leaned on to come up with some compromise. It's no good pretending that independent regulators are truly independent of political interference, when they are appointed by government ministers.

Assuming (I know) the ORR follows the same methodology as the HSE then they won't be doing any backing down.