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Not necessarily; The Great Central, for instance, remained with the E.R. for many years, even though it started in Manchester and Finished in London. I don't think the LMR completely took over the running of the CLC until 1952. On another note, a well-known model shop proprietor in Saddleworth once told me that on the on Standedge route Newcastle - Liverpool trains, the Ex-LNER stock could still be seen in teak as late as 1953. There's another thing; there were two different routes for these trains, of long standing. One service was ex-LYR/NER, and ran from Liverpool Exchange via Rochdale and the Calder valley; and the other ex-LNWR/NER, which ran from Lime Street, via Standedge and the Colne Valley. Did this one run via the New Line from Heaton Lodge to Farnley Junctions? Certainly on the Standedge route the LMS and LNER provided complete sets of their stock on alternate days, for the coupling and gangway connection reasons mentioned above.

Are you thinking of the accident at Wellingborough?

Most of the first - generation VLCCs looked reasonably 'handsome', especially when fully loaded. Despite what they were like down below, the BP 65 000, 72 000 and 100 000 tonners were easy on the eye.

The photo came from the "Memories of Saddleworth" group on Faceache.

The subject of the original photo was the bus behind the support wagon, with the comment "This is what it used to be like on Saturday mornings on the A62; crawling along at 4m.p.h. behind an outsize load"; and before the M62 was built, that's exactly what it was like!

In a world where function trumps form, car carriers have to be the ugliest ships on today's ocean.

I think the LNER built some 2nd class coaches for the "Hook Continental" set in 1937

It was. I don't think any of the 'R' boats had arrived when I was in Brunei in mid - 1978, but there were a couple of the 'P's.

That's the first time I've seen BP Commodore's braid, in either department; I was on British Respect in 1977, with Alan Davis as Commodore, and "Tadger" Smith as C/E. Tadger was a bit miffed at not being Commodore chief. It was "Fun"!

King did all he could to keep a British battle fleet out of The Pacific (as opposed to the Indian Ocean) in the later stages of the war. His stance on convoying, and other anti submarine measures, e.g., dimming the coastal streetlamps, was reminiscent of the attitude of the British Admiralty in the first three years of WW1

Don't forget the T-2 tankers; or the the "Victory" ships; or the British (Canadian)-built "Fort" and "Park" types, either. Manna from heaven for many a Greek who wanted to get into shipowning after WW2

I have to say that when I saw the trailer, I was reminded of a book by C.S. Forester, called "The Good Shepherd" which deals with a North Atlantic convoy, with an escort group under the command of a dugout U.S. Navy officer; but it was nothing like that!

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Looks like a complete piece of sheet!

The "Admin Box" battle in Arakan in 1943 was the turning point; Slim proved to his own troops that they could survive in the jungle, even if surrounded; by insisting that they stayed where they were, and he would arrange air supply, the Japanese were worn down and eventually had to retreat. Imphal anf Kohima were the result of a last gasp offensive by the Japanese; they were being strangled logistically by the US submarine campaign and the requirement for troops elsewhere. Again (according to his memoirs, anyway) he was quite happy for the Japanese to attack him in Eastern Bengal, where he had few supply problems, and then to defeat them on the wrong side of the border between India and Burma. It would then be easier to counter-attack in turn. His problem was that the Japanese offensive began a month earlier than he bargained for, and his defensive preparations weren't complete.

Agree with that; how on earth did the government allow him to carry on, even after we were at war with the Japanese? As for our army in Malaya; you can have as many men as you like, but if they are tied to roads and they have no air cover, you've had it. Besides, they weren't really trained for combat in the jungle, which the Japanese had no problem with; they infiltrated round any defensive position and established roadblocks in the British rear. They then had to fight their way out, or surrender. Slim had the same problem in Burma at least until early 1943, and had to remake his army, and let his troops see for themselves that they could survive off-road before he turned the tide.

Also; Wirral, or The Wirral; and Ukraine, or The Ukraine?

I must admit, that in the ten years I did with BP, I never heard any crew member use the term 'in' when referring to being a member of a ships' company; we were always 'on'. My understanding is that the first is a Royal Navy term, or maybe one of the 'posh' passenger lines as well; the second was more a Merchant Navy term. What expression did your dad use? Strange; I have never asked uncle Donald, who was ex - HMS Worcester, Blue Flue and Ben Line, which term he used.

I was more wondering what the work could be.

Measure twice; cut once!

They were. I can remember going to the ROH in around 2013 or 2014, the lifts were under maintenance, and having to climb the stairs out of the station. I was knackered, but my wife, an asthmatic, had to stop three or four times on the way up.

The notice of the Covent Garden lift renewal ought to help in dating it. I must admit, it looks more 60s/70s to me.

But Greater Manchester pinched part of Yorkshire (Saddleworth) in which there were three loooooooong tunnels, which would have been wholly in the West Riding! Swings and roundabouts!

Soundtrack by Ewan Maccoll and Peggy Seeger; The Song of the Iron Road, with different verses.