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  1. I provided a photo (Page 5 of this thread) shows one in maroon still carrying "GER" lettering, which was known to be scrapped in 1924. Type 5s have wooden frames. Huge numbers of GER Type 5s were scrapped very quickly by the LNER in the mid 1920's. Which is thankfully why so many bodies survived as buildings. As with 4 wheelers, I personally doubt many Type 5s remained in use long enough to be repainted to LNER colours. Type 7As had steel frames, so the 6 wheelers which survived into the 30's much more likely to be of this latter type. Preserved/Restored bodies are usually maroon because they're patched up with plywood. No-one can afford real teak these days. Of course you could do them in fake "Teak" paint finish, as many LNER coaches certainly were in the day, and as preserved lines use for their LNER stock. But it's hard work to get it to look right. Or plain brown paint (without graining) as was applied by GER (pre-1919) on "acquired" or "tired" stock. I suspect the GER's main reason for moving away from Varnished Teak in 1919 is that so many of the coaches were in poor condition by the end of the war that they wanted to use cheap wood, filler and paint to hide the holes! Gryffron
  2. Hi, Were the mimic panels in signal boxes always drawn as North upwards, or "up" to the right, or did they generally match the view from the box? So a box on the North side of the line and facing South would have South upwards on the diagram. Thinking about my question some more, North upwards doesn't make much sense for a N/S running line. But anyway question stands. Convention or viewpoint? I'm producing one for a miniature railway. Thanks, Gryffron
  3. I too have been working on a similar coach. Lav Composite No 352 to Diag 203. It was part of a cottage with 355 (foreground) which stood in Ely until 1985. (Great prototype for you modern modellers) Now looks like this Interesting picture from when the coaches were moved in 1985, still showing the original GER livery. Both coaches were withdrawn in Dec 1924, so obviously the LNER never got around to repainting them. There was some discussion of the vents earlier. Note on this coach the window vents are smaller than the door vents. A couple of questions for the experts here if I may... 1) What is the correct colour for GER maroon/dark red coach livery? Is LMS Maroon close enough? Or are we all just guessing? 2) What was the lining like? Was there any? None is visible on my photo above. Edwardian's pic above appears to show full lining. 355 have gone for just one panel. My pic here: Thanks, Gryffron
  4. To resurrect this ancient thread... I have just heard from David Eveleigh that the 6 wheelers are ready for the etchers. David is taking orders right now. So contact him via his website to get your orders in. Regards, Gryff
  5. Hi, I'm a 10 1/4" driver. Exact scale models are rare in this gauge, though there are a few decent attempts. Even if based on a real prototype, locos of this size are usually built for practicality rather than exact scale. Those pictured have oversized controls, firebox doors and boiler tubes for practicality. Most locos are "a bit" oversized as it more practical to sit IN them, rather than ON them. Which I accept makes them look a bit like OO models. Roughly 1/5 scale, or 2.5"/ft are more typical (yes, I know those are not the same) And btw, the 2 pictured above have scale flanges, which really struggle on most 10 1/4" lines. So I'd go for well oversized. Gryffron (My pictures)
  6. Yes please. I'd take a whole train of 4 wheelers and two of 6 wheelers. Just one suggestion. Wouldn't it make sense to start with a brake? At least then you can make up a valid train. Although the 6 wheelers can at least be mixed with the D&S models of later period. Gryff
  7. Hello Edwardian and others, I found this thread while googling for GER coaches. And it has finally spurred me to sign up to RMWeb. I share your interest in modelling GER 6 wheelers. First if I may share these. The summerhouse at a private property I visited this summer. A beautifully restored GER luggage compo. My photographs The M&GN Circle have a number of drawings of GER coaches. http://www.mgncircle.org.uk/ . Some of them are fairly poor quality photocopies of photostats. But still useful. There's actually more than they show on the online list, because the v.poor quality drawings aren't listed online. Talk to the guy who runs their drawing office. Very helpful. I have acquired a number of D&S 6-wheeler kits from ebay. Those I have are all square windowed and listed build 1897-8. Whilst I have built brass models before, these look hideous complicated, with hundreds of tiny parts. I am somewhat daunted. Did consider trying to run off copies by photocopying and reproducing the etches, since the kits are long out of production and such a precious resource these days, Has anyone ever done this? Does anyone know whether the PeterK 4-wheelers are suburbans or not? Thanks to the links to Guy's parts. I shall definitely be buying some of those. I have found modelling panelled coaches from scratch in OO is hard, although doable larger scales. Very difficult to get the panels square and even. They always look wonky. I also considered using the same 3D printer technique to produce my own coach side panels. Although the panelling is complex, it is basically just the same shapes reproduced over and over. If Guy is reading, do you think that is practical? Did you build your coaches by hand or print them? Happy modelling, Gryffron
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