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On 23/05/2024 at 15:16, Steven B said:

This is the only photo I've seen of a Mk3 set with the motorail GUVs attached to the DVT.

 

I'd like to see any images of the GUV behind the DVT with the loco at the other end; It's not a combination I've seen.

 

Steven B

I would imagine this was the standard formation loco at Scottish end DVT at the london end with 1st class and motorail GUVs taged on the end to make it easy to take off and shunt at stations further north.

Dont rush it, people will prefer a delayed model than a flawed model. People like to moan about release dates but if a model comes out with errors or problems the press and the customers all jump on it and the model is tarnished for ever, if a model comes out a few months or a year late , if it is a good model people soon forget the delay once they hold it in their hands.

Maybe maglev is the answer on elevated track,  if only we had the money and engineering excellence.

The low level line at Warrington is a problem but the site is partially disused now as Unilever have left so it could be demolished and re aligned.

Must have been a bit off hype with the local council hoping on the news about a possible HS3 on the freight only line that currently has a speed of 40mph dropping to 20 through the town center

https://www.warringtonguardian.co.uk/news/24338720.revamped-bank-quay-train-station-is-going-happen-says-metro-mayor/

Is it too early to dream of a double Fairlie or NG16 Garratt?

1 hour ago, montyburns56 said:

Have Hornby mentioned anything about producing the loco hauled versions of the MK3s?

At that scale is there, that much difference between the two? Some 3d printed parts could be used to represent the differences.

Class 92 with working panto in TT 😉 You know you want a challenge.

11 minutes ago, Legend said:

Other models are listed Britannia , Black5 ,J94 and 57xx in steam and 47,60,67,73 and Hitachi 800 in D&E . To me this is disappointing as it looks like the 47 is in with the rest as a footnote . When can we expect to see that 2028, 2030? I do still think it would have made much more sense having the 37 and 47 instead of the 50 . Oh well !  
 

 

 

 

67 seems an odd choice unless they want to sell it with the royal train connection to the Europeans. 73 too, would a 33 not make a bit more sense? could you share a chassis for 26/27 then?

Agreed 37 and 47 much wider range and livery's compared to the 50

I forgot about exports of BR locos. That could sell on the continent.

class 66 and 37 make sense, class 20 and 58 also worked abroad didn't they? I know 58 did. Did the 20s get about in France or just near the tunnel?

I can not see a 87 , bit to risky. 

WD 2-8-0 and 8f for early post ww2 Europe?

wild card class 77/EM2 for dutch modelers 🤪

Would a eurostar set sell well for the Europeans?

The question is do you go in and represent an era region allowing some to start or do you do a scatter gun approach? Im not a TT modeler so some might have been announced already

No brainer future releases

LMS/BR LM

3f jinty-Can it share the j50 chassis?

Black 5 -Announced?

8f

mogul or 0-6-0 - ideal if you could share chassis with other models with similar wheel base even if wheels need to be unique

GWR BR WR

Castle

King

little tank engine - Panier

mogul or 0-6-0 - ideal if you could share chassis with other models with similar wheel base even if wheels need to be unique

SR

Bulied pacific

Re Built Bulied

A popular tank engine N2?

Slam door EMU - Br green through to privatization, lots of people would have taken one in london/the south at some point in their life

BR

Britannia

9F would be very impressive in TT

(5 or 4 MT) Not sure about sale figures for these

BR Diesel

 20

37- Anounced

47-Anounced?

40

60- To complement 66 as well as other BR Diesels, lots of livery's plus they have one in the 1:1 colection

DMU

Hard sell compared to more interesting Locomotives, if anything class 101 large geographic spread and a fair few livery's

Coaches

mk2s

teak LNER

BR surburban or LMS equivalent that could be used in BR era as well

GWR coach to go with castle or tank engine

Wagons

16t mineral

BR vacuum brake short wheel base van

HAA Coal wagon

5 and 7 plank generic steam age freight wagon

Brake down Crane

VGA wagon for late BR and modern use

Wild Cards

Union Pacific Big Boy- A lot of people would buy for the novelty in UK and Europe, largest steam loco in the world

Union Pacific Centennial - Probably less popular than a BIG Boy but the largest Diesel loco in the world

Bus just missed the cliche bridge shot

Great weathering paint job, but questionable cant-rail transfer application

i believe its in a modern barn type building, its big enough to host the layout, iv been to a wedding there.

Class 89??

thanks

if the 323 is a success , i would like to see a 325 postal unit, wider geographical spread and something a bit different. Even if they only come in red

Hi all

I have recently purchased two Trix EM1's from separate sellers and they both run on 2 rail DC however they run the opposite direction to which the controller is set. I.e left is right right is left. Any ideas why they would do this? I don't think they have been tampered with, and they are from separate sources so its not as if the same person has modified them , one has had extra pick ups fitted.

small update

https://railsofsheffield.com/blogs/news/Heljan-18100-gas-turbine

trying not to go to far off topic, but....

Could we see a resurgence in the cottage industry, with resin 3d printing a range of budget models could be created so all popular diesels could be designed, and use a common co-co motor or common bo-bo set up with just the chassis being different. so a class 25 and 20 could share the same components in the drive train but different 3d printed bogie frame sides and drive shaft/wheel base. sub classes would be easy and require no tooling just a different 3d file. It wouldn't be a full fat model competitor but maybe a railroad type niche, ship it in kit form and the modeler has to assemble and paint it themselves. Could open up the hobby for people put of by the price of modern models.

You could go way out there and design by comity or a co op or allow it to be open sourced so you get the largest amount of input from experts or people that can have easy access to the prototype. Maybe a go fund me collective to hire a 3d artist to design your chosen loco, with design changes on the fly to get the best results.

like him or not sams trains has an interesting video of him creating a 3d steam loco

Going back to the original question, are modern RTR locos and stock too detailed, or have reached a "peak"

i think most people focus their eye and attention on the rolling stock and locomotives, after all this is railway modeling, not modeling static scenes like kit Armour or airplane modelers.

Most people will have average scenery with the latest and highly detailed RTR loco, i think this is how most people model. The great layouts tend to have very good scenery mixed with well detailed or customized stock, in my opinion. 

There is a temptation to purity spiral, by some people such as, you can not be a "real" modeler if you just plonk a loco out of the box, you haven't scratched built all your buildings. You have not hand built all track to the exact scale, the locos have to be correct to that period and time of the 14th November 1937 in north west coast of Scotland. It has to be 3 link couplings and sprung buffers.

You pick and choose where you draw the line, i would say creating a pastiche of a believable period of time and rough place is what most people aim for.

Back to the original question after my own ramblings : )

Have we reached peak practical detailing in RTR?

I would say yes.

From an D+E OO gauge modeling perspective.

Do we need a more detailed class 37 than the latest Bachmann or Acurascale one? No, is it even possible to make one? we already have some models with the brake chain becoming detached, whats the point in fitting more separate parts if they come off as you handle it. In 10-15-20 years will plastic molding come to a point where a company could successfully develop, market and sell at a profit a new 37 that is significantly better than what we have now ? A leap so significant that people will pay (i would imagine) significant sums of money for it?

I would imagine there will be more accurate sound on models in 10 years but will they really be much better?

The previous generation class 47,20, are enough for most i would say to get a good representation of the class.

Is any one going to bother making a new all new model of

87,90,89,20,47,25,37?

The models we have or are in development will be very hard to beat and harder to justify new tooling even in 15-20 years i would say.

Your opinion may differ. just my 2 pence.

I was just about to post the same, some versions showing available at rails and hattons.

Can not wait to see what the community and Andy Y think of them, they look very nice from the pics

I don’t see why you could not use thick plastic, it’s only going to be operated by your fingers/hand, you shouldn’t be swinging off the lever trying to break the interlocking, it should just stop accidental movements.