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  1. is looking forward to the exhibition at shepton mallet next weekend

  2. Firstly, can we just correct something - it's GARRATT not Garrett or Garret (which is a make of steam roller I believe). I note the grumbles about the non heritage nature of the NGG16s, well if you want to see heritage trains on the new WHR then come along to some of the special events like superpwower in sept (the same is true of seeing the pickering carriages on the W+L - only at special events!). In previous years we have had the real and replica summer cars 23/24, bowsiders, bugs and iron sided bogies all of which were used on the WHR, with Prince, Palmerston, Merddin, Taliesin etc. Russell came in 2003 as well, but only got to Waunfawr back then, I dio hope she (he?) graces the full line asap. and hopefully soon Welsh Pony too. oh and this year at superpower 2010 you'll see some L+B in new build Lyd too. as for heritage on the line, there is: Dinas station Building. Dinas Goods Shed. The majority of the original NWNG road-over bridges. The PB&SSR bridges. Two of the three NWNG river bridges. Beddgelert Water tower, inspection pit and lamp room base. tank and lamp room to be erected soon. The weigh houses at Glanrafon and Beddgelert Sidings (base and weigh pit). The water tower at Portmadoc New (1923) station. Most of the culverts, (many attractively rebuilt). Underpasses at Bod Aden and Tan yr Alt Bont y Cyt - the Croesor tramway bridge over the Cyt in Porthmadog. Waunfawr station building (to be re- erected when funds allow) Cambrian Crossing Signal Box, plus associated wooden gates and fencing. Tryfan Junction station building. Pont Croesor Waiting Shelter recently erected in style of Ynysfor A water tank to go atop the preserved water tower at Beddgelert. and don't forget that in places like Beddgelert a replica of the crinkly tin waiting room would be impossible under current national park planning rules. oh and how many other heritage railways have been able to recreate the past when it has frankly almost been obliterated. Think of winchcombe on the gwsr - it looks fab now, but that station building aint original! and it's taken them a long while to do it, years since it opened. give the whr project some time too!
  3. ah yes, good point... had forgotten about the rogs, rots things
  4. what legal reasons are those then? The real reason is that the FR will be severed at Minffordd for a while this winter whilst the bypass is built and thus the company wants to use the WHR from harbour to run the profitable coach party trains for the not insubstantial traffic at this time of year. Normally they go to trywn y garnedd, this year Beddgelert?
  5. PS Ben's site is now back available, edited by a new team, here: http://www.whrsoc.org.uk/WHRProject/index.htm
  6. I am trying to remain neutral on this as I am an enthuiastic support of the FR and a minor volunteer when I can get the time. However I also have many friends at the WHHR and our kids love the 'experience' of their line too. I would like to point out to readers of this thread that the FR is a major employer (unlike many heritage railways) of some 60+ staff and as such it must take commercial decisions to protect those employees (some of whom have already been made redundant by the closure of other industries in the area notably slate related industries). The FR has already had to make some serious and most unfortunate redundancies only 2 years ago due to the effects of the recession on traffic and revenue. Thankfully last year was much better, but the management must run the company(ies) as businesses otherwise real people will be out of real jobs. I am also not convinced that we have heard the end of this discussion and I suspect there are ways to come to an amicable conclusion, but the current WHHR operations proposal which would give the FR about £1 for each passenger is not sustainable at all. The agreement (which the FR claim is dead and buried as it was broken anyway) is very clear about what would happen with revenues and costs, and the published WHHR proposal comes nowhere close to fulfilling that. Regular WHHR trains to Pont Croesor must now been seen as highly unlikely, but 'ever so often' HERITAGE trains onto the WHR proper are still likely to happen in my view.
  7. is baffled by point motors

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