Jason Pape

This may be an unusual question but if I wanted to make my animals and other figures in O gauge how should I do it? I hope to make a statue or two for the country town, I’m not very good at cad how would you make them? They are all based on spheres except for the fallow deer stag, he’s watermelon shaped. I’d like your advice on how I should model them. 

I found a plan of the van the Hornby LBSCR van is based on and I repositioned multiple scans with paper, glue and scissors using a photo of the van, the number, weight and dimensions are probably wrong but hopefully they’re close. Some of the paper parts were very fiddly to cut out. I’ve also noticed that my reworked van has an extra set of handrails on the body too.

I’m searching for plans of Charlbury station on the Oxford to Paddington line of the GWR as its a gorgeous Italianate station and a plan for a typical broad gauge goods shed too. I’m just starting out in making my first layout so any help will be appreciated. 

I’m searching for drawings of the original wood and plaster (not the well known 1930s stone buildings) Bourton On The Water/ Stowe On The Wold station buildings of the OWWr. Either station is fine as they were both identical when first built. I’m wondering if drawings still exist after all this time (91 years!) but if they do I’d be very interested in them. I’ve done a bit of research on the stations but so far I’ve had no luck. 

11 minutes ago, Wickham Green too said:

I don't think there are any 4mm scale plastic or etched models but there are other sources depending on what period you're after ............ the Hornby 'Brighton' van isn't exactly state of the art ( I'm not sure it ever was ) but will represent a van from the last years before grouping - and the Finecast kit is a type introduced in 1894 and lasting to WW2 ................... yes, Mike King's Vol.2 has the details.

Thank you Wickham Green

I didn’t know Hornby made a LBSCR van I knew of their dancehall and LSWR vans. Do you have any pictures?

2 hours ago, burgundy said:

The "bible" for Brighton freight stock is "An Illustrated History of Southern Wagons Vol 2". 

Hope this helps 

Best wishes 

Eric 

Thank you Eric

 I’ll try and borrow a copy. 

I’m hoping to model a TPO service on my model railway but I can’t find any suitable drawings of the lineside nets etc. I would also like to know of any drawings of pre grouping/ early big four TPO vehicles because my layout is set in the Victorian/ Edwardian period. I particularly like the carriage designs of the midland railway, LBSCR,  LSWR and GWR but anything similar would be great.

Happy New Year!! I’m looking for a drawing any scale (or a 4mm scale plastic or etched model) of a LBSCR twin veranda 4 wheeled brake but so far I can’t find a plan of the one I’m looking for. I’ve seen a few pictures of the right design but so far I’ve drawn a blank. I found a 3D rendering of the brakevan but I’m not sure if it’s accurate, it shows only one side of the vehicle too.

On 27/07/2020 at 13:25, Jeremy C said:

I think Herefords were used in the Cotswolds (Devons were more common elsewhere - but perhaps not as late as the mid-20th century where most areas used horses). They are big animals, certainly, but I don't think there is any difference in size between a Hereford ox and a Hereford bull. Just chop the balls off. 

 

1960s sounds very late for draught oxen though; I thought they had pretty much all died out in England before the Second World War.

 

Edit: I've just seen that it was Earl Bathurst at Cirencester Park who kept a team of oxen into the 1960s. There's a colour video of the team at work in the 1920s on YouTube, but my attempt at adding a link failed. They look like horned Herefords to me.

I’ve found another interesting photograph of an oxen team with a hay wagon from the same book.

On 27/07/2020 at 13:25, Jeremy C said:

I think Herefords were used in the Cotswolds (Devons were more common elsewhere - but perhaps not as late as the mid-20th century where most areas used horses). They are big animals, certainly, but I don't think there is any difference in size between a Hereford ox and a Hereford bull. Just chop the balls off. 

 

1960s sounds very late for draught oxen though; I thought they had pretty much all died out in England before the Second World War.

 

Edit: I've just seen that it was Earl Bathurst at Cirencester Park who kept a team of oxen into the 1960s. There's a colour video of the team at work in the 1920s on YouTube, but my attempt at adding a link failed. They look like horned Herefords to me.

I think this may be a photograph of Earl Bathurst’s oxen, they seem to be Devon reds and a dairy shorthorn.

I’ve just received a copy of a book about the Sand Hutton railway, I’m hoping to build Synolda and Colossus one day! If there is enough demand I may cast the parts as a body and chassis kit when I make them, I have an interesting idea about motorising them without needing a Minitrix chassis too so watch this space.

I have just received a wonderful book about the Sand Hutton railways I’m very interested in the 15’’ gauge the most there’s even a handy drawing of a class 30! I like the minimum gauge enclosed coach and brake vans but the book only has photographs of them (unlike the later larger narrow gauge railway) which is a shame. Do you know if anyone drew some plans or if there are more photographs of the minimum gauge coach and brakevan? 

This looks like a great model, it’s perfect for my model. Is the model available unpainted or will I need to repaint it? Do you know if anyone makes boneshaker or similar old bicycles too?

I’m wondering if anyone produces a model of a penny farthing in o gauge, I really need one for a special figure I’m making for my layout. The rider had a canary yellow lined with black penny farthing and it would make a fantastic model. If a model isn’t available is there a plan or kit available? I mostly make balloon shaped animals but I make thin people too.

I’m hoping to model some oxen teams for my layout but I’m not sure about how much bigger than a regular cow or bull they are, I saw a feature in Continental Modeller a few years ago but I forgot to buy the magazine at the time. Does anyone know the Continental Modeller issue number the oxen were featured in or any features or photographs of oxen from magazines as oxen were used quite a lot in the Cotswolds until the 1960s. Also any photographs of white park and Gloucester cows and bulls would be helpful too.

On 21/07/2020 at 13:47, Nearholmer said:

If you are going to build the SECR rail motor in 7mm/ft, I would be willing to help crowd-fund (crowd of two?) a set of etchings from Worsley Works.

 

But, weren’t there subtly different versions of the coach part?
 

And, do Worsley or Roxey already etch the coach section in 4mm, as part of a two-car PP set, which is what they became when the loco bits were abandoned. I have a feeling that guys from UCkfield MRC might have sponsored a product in order to build a train for their Leysdown layout.

Thank you Nearholmer I would definitely be interested in a crowdfunded SECR Railmotor! I think the coaches had more detail differences than the locomotives (as far as I’m aware there were long and short tanks) but I think it sounds like a wonderful idea. 

On 23/07/2020 at 08:05, adrianmc said:

 

Yes quite correct - the S.E.& C.R. Railmotors were built in two batches and there were differences both in the locomotive and coach bodies.

 

Nos 1 & 2 in 1905 and Nos 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 & 8 in 1906

The later locomotives differed from the original pair by having shorter side-tanks. The fully panelled carriage portions were dimensionally the same as the original two but differed in detail.

 

On the second batch the bodyside windows were narrower, with a consequently larger panel between each; the third and sixth seating bays viewed from the inner end had pairs of droplights instead of a large fixed window; there were 14 roof ventilators; and at the driving end there were four equal-sized windows, of which the nearside and offside two were slideable."

 

The original two railmotors had 7 large bodyside windows on each side when built and only 10 roof ventilators, however they were soon modified to match the second batch with the addition of more roof ventilators and the pairs of droplights in the third and sixth seating bays. However because of the original bodyside layout, the remaining large windows, new droplights and the corresponding above window ventilators were all noticeably larger than those from the second batch, with corresponding smaller bodywork panels between the windows.

 

When converted by the SR into the articulated sets (513 & 514), for the Sheppey Light, and pull-push sets (481 & 482),  for the Isle of Wight, the panelled bodywork of the coaches were plated over.

 

Set 513 - built from railmotors 3 & 8 - so narrow body side windows

Set 514 - built from railmotors 1 & 2 - so wide body side windows

Set 481 - built from railmotors 5 & 4 - so narrow body side windows 

Set 482 - built from railmotors 6 & 7 - so narrow body side windows 

 

Mike King has produced a drawing which looks to be of the plated converted second batch and is therefore not strictly applicable for articulated set 514 built from the original 2 railmotors but is suitable for the other three.

 

More information from:

Bogie Carriages of the S.E.& C.R. - David Gould - Oakwood Press

Illustrated History of Southern Pull-Push Stock - Mike King - OPC

 

A ready to run 7mm/ft model of the Articulated Set was produced for a while by Electrifying Trains / MARC Models - however they were fairly robust as designed to go round 3ft radius curves and although advertised as available as set 513 or 514 the body side layout would be only suitable for one as per the info above,

 

There was also a 7mm/ft kit produced I believe by J.M. Model Products whom were approached by a couple of Uckfield MRC members at a Bristol show to ask about reducing their etches to 4mm/ft - however they weren't interested.

 

Subsequently my model of Articulated Set 514, which features on Leysdown, was scratch-built back in 1999 - featuring fretted out body sides!

 

http://www.leysdown.org.uk

 

I don't know of any kits for the original railmotors although I believe Dave Hammersley of Roxey Mouldings was considering it at one point.

 

Hope this helps.

 

Thank you Adrian 

This gives a lot of food for thought! Do you know where I can find a drawing for the modified Railmotors with longer tanks (3-4 onwards) as these would be interesting to model too? 

On 21/07/2020 at 09:53, Tony Cane said:

The SECR railmotor drawing is MRC March 1964 page 74

 

A drawing of the GNR railmotor appears in MRC 1962 page 264, I do not know which month that is.

 

Many years ago drawings from the NRM were available via Oxford Publishing. I have several references for the SECR railmotor.

Thank you Tony

I have done a bit of research and the GNR Railmotor plans were published in the July 1972 issue of Model Railway Constructor. I like both the GNR and SECR Railmotors as they were very stylish machines. I’m trying to find a plan of the Midland Railway Railmotor and trailer next. I now have both issues of Model Railway Constructor and it’s a shame that this magazine is no longer published.

I’m searching for plans of the original (pre 1930) main station buildings at Bourton on the Water and Stow on the Wold. I’ve so far found plans for the replacement 1930s buildings but so far I haven’t been able to find plans for the original timber framed buildings. I’m hoping to base my model railway around them and other freelance buildings too. I prefer the timber framed buildings as the had an estate cottage feel about them and they would be different to the usual Cotswold stone stations modelled.  If anyone knows where I can get plans of the original main station buildings preferably for 7mm scale if available I would be very grateful.

I’m trying to find some articles about Ted Polet’s Craigcorrie and Dunalistair 009 railway, it’s a very inspiring layout with interesting locomotives too. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

I’m searching for a drawing of one of the South Eastern and Chatham Railmotors. I heard it was published in model railway constructor but I’ve forgotten which issue it was published in. I’m also looking for plans of a Great Northern Railway railmotor and BTP tank too. All help will be appreciated.

On 22/09/2019 at 16:32, brack said:

Like I say, not my model, I had the chassis sorted, the boiler and all the fittings, then sold it to tim ellis who finished it off, so I can't claim much credit. The approach worked though, and the minitrix pacific is fairly cheap to find and robust and easy enough to hack about. I wouldnt have wanted to buy a brand new farish chassis then take a saw to it!

I’m very sorry for the very late reply, I would love to make a model of this locomotive in 09 and I’m wondering do you have a 09 scale drawing of Count Louis? I would love to buy plans if I could. Your model has inspired me a lot and I’m finally going to take the plunge and build my 09 estate railway.

On 15/12/2019 at 15:50, MrJack47790 said:

N Drive productions will be producing an 09 katie for £95 in the fist half of next year also i know somethings happening with effie.

I would definitely be interested in a Katie but Effie would be amazing!! Do N-drive productions still make their kits? 

On 27/09/2019 at 18:08, brack said:

The minitrix pacific is bang on for the Krauss 15" Pacifics, I started work on a 3d printed kit (had even spoken to people at ravenglass about it), but was beaten to the punch by someone else (who I believe used a kato JNR pacific chassis), then I got ill, then we had another baby. so I gave up.

If you know anyone who will make a 3D print of a little giant like Synolda I would definitely buy at least 12!!

On 27/09/2019 at 17:45, Dava said:

Maybe the Minitrix Pacific chassis would work for 'Colossus' without major mods?

 

Or use a German Minitrix [is it an 01 or 03?] as the basis for one of the Krauss miniature fairground locos from the 1930s? Like 'Black Prince on the RH&DR, I'm sure it visited the Ratty. 

 

Dava

That would be amazing Dava! I’m sorry for the extremely late reply. I would like to see the Evesham light Railway one day. Are the minitrix chassis still available? I would love to model Whillen Beck (is that the correct spelling) if I can too.