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one on fire at somerleyton today any news? pics?. But there isnt anything wrong with them i am sure its NWR fault somewhere

There trains a Junk end of. If Ga hadnt cut on the software they should have worked but lets be honest they fail all the time switch it off and back on again. But when GA walk away it will be someone else who has the problem

4 hours ago, russ p said:

They have a really annoying habit of all the fans stating up and shrieking,, two were doing it at Norwich this afternoon. 

Apparently they have been running too hot and burning valves and melting pistons.

Seems odd as the engines are proven deutz units so it must be something to do with them been enclosed or mismatched cooler groups

i can see the acle branch from my house and i am sure i can still hear them when they are at stracey arms. they are louder than the 37s. These are ment to be an improvment really??? lads to keep them in service turn the fans up to max, then we can had the keys in because of the coronavirus then as we forked up the order they will be some elses problem . i can see it comming how they can exit

32 minutes ago, Satan's Goldfish said:

I mostly see 4 car sets on the Breckland line, only very occasionally has it been a 3 car.

 

Ref 'are they louder?' ; I visited Brother-in-Law a week or so ago, his garden backs onto the Sudbury twig at Bures, and the comment was made then that they suddenly seemed to have gotten louder over the last couple of weeks (3 car units). However when held by the barriers at Brandon level crossing earlier this week and a 4 car was setting off from the station, it didn't sound any louder than normal. So has something been changed on the 3 car units? Or do the engines have to work harder as there's only 2 rather than 4?...

They sound like a hoover really loud. they used to just have a high pitched noise . If you can remember the class 170's used to be loud when they had leafs over the vents. That is how they sound...

Has anyone noticed how loud the engines are now getting when running on fuel? I dont know if its one unit or a couple but they/it sounds louder than 37's they replaced. Least you can hear 5 miles up the track when your train has left norwich you can hear it before you see it....

Russ was that you today with the MK3s when you were in the rear loco?

so one sat down at bury yesterday for 3 hrs until thunderbird one was on route....

Today heard that fuel dump in crown point lost the lot.

look great from the outside. i can see them moved or taken onto electric only if and when GA get removed

A washer at Crown point that fits the profile of the trains would be a start!!! that way the skirts wont look like they have been to Inverness and back in a day.

Monday will be the interesting bit IF the wherry lines fully reopen as others have said still not overly impressed with them. Also noticed due to the smaller fuel tanks the amount of cars running around now up and down the main someone really did not think that through verywell

15 minutes ago, russ p said:

Must have been turning the plough at Trowse,  I was driving when we got back my mate drove the outward trip

I was at the top of the stairs looking for Basil's did make us all laugh(running in the one winter without a chance of snow) and then stuck behind Q train

4 hours ago, beast66606 said:

 

I saw him twice, at Cantley and over Reedham swing bridge - I shot him. (With a camera )

I saw him over a swing bridge but wasnt Reedham or Somer

On 29/01/2020 at 08:58, russ p said:

 

That's correct,  I'm turning one of them today .

As there is two large logo 37s working it tomorrow shame I can't get the network rail stickers off them and replaced with independent snowplough Norwich! 

I saw you today, i waved!!!

Are we expecting bad weather???  Does NWR knowing something everyone else doesnt

4 hours ago, ruggedpeak said:

No one is criticising the staff on the frontline, but whoever is in charge but didn't have a plan for:

 

1) a new and problematic type of train failing full of passengers 

2) the rescue loco failing / not reaching the scene / having problems - I assume it came from Colchester or beyond, possibly Norwich 

3) no effective plan for detraining 400 people close to stations in London (bit different from the wilds of the Norfolk countryside miles from a road where it would be tricky)(doubly ironic as TfL got into trouble for detraining too quickly!)

 

Anyone in or out of an armchair should realise that where people are trapped/stranded when it gets past the first hour or so someone should be working up the evacuation plan in case the other solutions fail. 5 hours and calling in the heavies smacks of  a failure to plan for the most basic contingency. There is even an EMU depot 3 miles up the line with two 08's plus spare EMU's. 

 

 

 

nor the NRW staff who also deal with the fall out

On 26/01/2020 at 07:23, Pete 75C said:

 

Yes, lets.

Personally, I think they are starting to settle down.

A whole fleet of new trains with good reliability from day one... historically, has that ever happened?

Like them or loathe them, we're stuck with them.

Really they are settling down? not a day goes by on the Norfolk local lines without some fault per shift

4 hours ago, admiles said:

 

Yes, in an ideal world GA would have had the 153, 156 and 170 fleets longer for back up but I believe they didn't have any choice as to when those fleets departed. Not to mention the small issue of having the real estate to actually put new and old fleets while operating side by side. The 37's and MK2s couldn't have been used as they now don't meet the PRM requirements.

 

 

i dont belive in the rail a number of tocs have met full PRM and is there any reason MKIII cars going off lease could not have been used ?  oh hold on COST

4 hours ago, Fenman said:

Hmm... if companies with experience in the U.K. market are so much better, why is GA’s brand-new Bombardier fleet so far behind schedule? At least the Stadlers are on the tracks (even if so many are stationary when they shouldn’t be).

 

I don’t think nationalism is the issue in this sorry saga. 

 

Paul

To be fair dont think Bombardier can been seen now as a uk wise company it is just i global company making money now. i dont belive we have any true companys left in th euk

1 hour ago, admiles said:

 

Ok, so what would you have GA do about it then?  Just curious...

Maybe there should have been a slower change over from old to new there was too much hast to change with the old stock going and costs mounting up. When the Class 170 came into Eastanglia there was back up in the 150/153. However here there was nothing most had gone and the 37's when they had finished the RHTT were not re-hired on a spot basis  again i would suspect down to cost

1 hour ago, DY444 said:

 

 

Whole fleets have been replaced several times before either GA or GN replaced theirs (and GN still have 365s in service so not a complete replacement anyway).  357s on C2C, 185s on TPE, 460s on GX to name but three instances of complete replacement of what went before

i was going on what a previous poster had put to me, i also think GA had said this a couple of times

Is it not the case that most if not all the trains mentioned were built by companys who had experience with the uk market. Maybe with the Stadler the trust was too much and not fully understanding the uk market and systems

On 26/01/2020 at 07:23, Pete 75C said:

 

Yes, lets.

Personally, I think they are starting to settle down.

A whole fleet of new trains with good reliability from day one... historically, has that ever happened?

Like them or loathe them, we're stuck with them.

No a whole fleet has never been replaced putting all eggs in one basket as GA found out to their cost. 100's and 100's of people have now taken to cars/busses other modes of transport because of the poor service. I understand we are stuck with them but a persons view from the front( not that means much now days) line is they are still not that good stupid little faults which should not be happening PA fault is a common one and Door fault

lets be honest

seems like GA can no longer hide behind the " Signalling problem" any longer the bio trains are kack maybe over complicated and they do not work. Even if someone from GA comes on here to defend them they do not work well at all. people might say they are settling down are they? the ones  service are helped by the 2 156 and 1 170 are helping whilst they changing  the 755 which have faults. One coulnt move out of norwich without failing and that was under test. Now seems people cant say anything as its classed as a derogatory comment

Oi railway way it is ur 755 oh sorry ga 755, as ur nothing to do with them.I am told old   stock touch rail with50p new755 5p. I hearing all over nothing t do with Cromer line