John_41241

hey all, sorry for the recent radio silence.. I've been feeling abit naff... but, I have recently bought a new layout.. £30... bit of a project..

it's a cement works set in Yorkshire.. but I've no clue of a name....

tonight I have ripped the track up, sanded it down & tested different track plans..

let me know your thoughts, and potential names below!

 I have recently bought a new layout.. £30... bit of a project..

it's a cement works set in Yorkshire.. but I've no clue of a name....

I have ripped the track up, sanded it down & tested different track plans..

let me know your thoughts, and potential names below!

On 23/04/2015 at 04:59, 844fan said:

That is a neat little engine. But I do believe that is not Lively Polly. For one thing Lively Polly had Dumb Buffers and was never fitted with properly sprung ones.

 

But that one does seem to be from Liverpool for the right line. Maybe it was her replacement when she went to Monks Ferry. You have given me another puzzle here David. And that is fine by me as I like these little shunters.

 

Maybe I should rename the topic to Liverpool Overheas steam.

 

Thank you much,

844fan

Hi, this loco is hudswell clarke 402 Lord Mayor

On 26/11/2021 at 11:53, Holmside said:

Er, having yet to summon enough courage to subject a pristine model to weathering,  I still regard this weathering business as rather a ‘black art’ (yes, extraordinarily feeble  and doubtless unoriginal  joke intended). That said, could I ask if john_41241 would briefly describe how he achieved these (to my eye at least) totally convincing results in this case ?

hi, I first. covered with ammomig black paint, then instantly rubbed most of it off using cotton buds, to achieve a dirt.. then I used some ammomig powders & washes to get the look... I've used paint only in some of my wagons, I'd suggest trying on a wagon & seeing how you find jt.... attached below is a wagon

a first attempt.... the sentinel I bought from @southernsteamlad has undergone a transformation... my first proper attempt at weathering a loco, using only @ammomig products....

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August 1984.... a yorkshire engine company 400HP janus shunter passes through river don works on a steel train....

bucket, that is all

sorry for the lack of updates 

I've been extremely tied up due to my dad having a stroke & getting the house sorted for his return

so, here's some photos of my newest loco, river don works 23, based off of eastmoor steelworks number 21...

yhis repaint was done by Ben Siddons of Repaints by Ben (find him on Facebook) 

and the weathering done by Ben Fawkes of @vlogthatrain31 (find him on Instagram) 

I'm outstanded by the quality! 

21 minutes ago, steveNCB7754 said:

 

Also looks like someone's been a bit over-enthusiastic with the overhead crane! Guess the maintenance guys will have to come and re-rail the hoist carriage.

 

 

Steve N

oops, been meaning to glue that on!! 

others: how many 03s do you need? 

me: yes

(BTW 3 are missing from this photo) 

1 hour ago, Ruston said:

That 4-wheel wagon is just a bit overloaded!

hahaha yeh! it was while I repaired the damaged bogie on one of the bogie wagons! 

Nice to have some proper wagons on the layout now! handy work by @Ruston@ruston...

great models & detail! 

and the track is now working!! 

come see river don works at the Bradford model railway club open day on the 31st October 2021! also see multiple club & member layouts!

located at

Black Dyke Mills, Unit 27 Brighouse Rd, Queensbury, Bradford BD13 1QA

full disabled access to the clubroom via lift. just note some surfaces are uneven, both outside & inside.

free parking!

On 05/06/2019 at 08:13, sem34090 said:

I've got a growing interest in these locos, and am looking to produce a variety of models of them. As far as I know, these are the variations - 

The original (I seem to recall) Spanish Broad-Gauge locos, built for the Bilbao and Tudelo Railway in Northern Spain.

http://www.spanishrailway.com/wp-content/uploads/Locomotora-LA-BASCONIA-rodaje-220T-foto-Wiseman-668x441.png

From the thread below, I also now know that at least one of these passed to the Madrid Sugar Co, shown above.



I seem to recall the Met A Class were the next ones to be built - here's one in original condition. The initial 18 locos carried names, but these were later removed.

 

There was also the Met B Class which basically tried to solve a few of the A Class' shortcomings, the first photo showing a class member in Met condition. The second one is shown in industrial service, with condensing gear removed, in North Wales. This locomotive was previously owned by the Nidd Valley Railway, so more pictures of it will appear below.

From the 1880s they appear to have been re-boilered, with the dome moving onto the second ring of the boiler. The pressure of the boiler was raised from 120psi to 150psi. They also seem to have gained cast chimneys at this time.

From 1895 cabs began to be fitted. I'm unsure as to when the condensing gear began to be removed (No.23, L.45 above, never lost it) but some locos lost it as also shown above.

I think it may have been sometime around 1905 that they began to be withdrawn, what with electrification, and 40 of the 40 A and 26 B Class locos had been withdrawn by 1907 (All of the Bs had been withdrawn, I think) with one remaining until 1936 (so I was wrong earlier) when it was set aside for preservation, this being the former Met No.23, by that time renumbered L45. I think it lasted until 1936, with one other (Met No.41) lasting almost as long, due to its being allocated to Brill Tramway duties, with that line shutting in 1935. No.23 and No.41 are shown sometime around 1933/4, with 23 in interim London Transport/Met livery, on the Brill Tramway.

23/L45 is shown in preserved condition above, with the later boiler and chimney but with cab removed and weatherboard re-fitted and, of course given it was never removed, original condensing gear.

 

Now, onto the District examples.

Not much to note with these, - At some point they gained curved-top weatherboards, but besides that I think they altered little during their lives. All but six of the 54 District examples were withdrawn by 1907, again due to electrification, with these last six remaining in departmental service until 1926, thereafter being scrapped.

Other companies had these, and I know of the Cambrian, Midland, LNWR and LSWR definitely using them, though I am unsure whether these were second-hand purchases or new-builds to the same design. Webb ended up rebuilding some of the LNWR examples into quite quirky 4-4-2Ts...

And it seems some other interesting experiments were carried out on the LNWR examples...

Here's the only set of online photos I can find for Cambrian ones, and I have yet to see any for the LSWR and Midland ones.

The Cambrian also converted two into tender machines, one remaining left-hand drive with lever reverse, the other being converted to right-hand drive with screw reverse - A photograph of one of them can be found here:

https://www.rail-online.co.uk/p469896013/h3CAC7E77#h3cac7e77

http://spellerweb.net/rhindex/UKRH/OtherRailways/LofthouseStn.jpg

Another company which bought a pair was the Nidd Valley Light Railway (Well, the stock was bought by the Bradford Corporation), one being withdrawn due to its unreliability and subsequently sold to the North Wales Granite Co. as pictured above, and below.

One purchaser of these that I had not previously been aware of was the Rhenische railway in Germany, an example is pictured above - I'm now beginning to wonder how many other classes of loco can be operated on layouts set in three different nations, in the following liveries -

• Tudela & Bilbao Railway Livery (Which appears to have been black, according to this page about the loco - https://forotrenes.com/foro/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=34540 )
• Madrid Sugar Co. Livery (A grimy black, basically!)
• Metropolitan Railway Green
• Metropolitan Railway Crimson (Early style with number on the centre of the tank)
• Metropolitan Railway Crimson (Later style with one panel of lining on the tanks and various permutations of lettering)
• District Railway Green
• LSWR Beattie Brown
• LSWR Adams Green
• LSWR Drummond Green
• LNWR Lined Black
• MR Lined Crimson
• Cambrian Black
• Nidd Valley Railway Livery (I'm not sure what this actually was!)
• North Wales Granite Co. Livery (Again, I'm not sure what this actually was besides it being lined. I imagine it to have been some form of green.)
• Rhenische railway Livery (Yet again, I'm unsure as to what this actually was.

 I should also add that one was purchased by the West Somerset Mineral Railway, remaining in Met livery.

 

As for preservation, to my knowledge there are two of this pattern of tank engine preserved - Bilbao & Tudelo Railway No.29 Izarra and Metropolitan Railway No.23.

Metropolitan Railway No.23 was set aside for preservation upon her 1936 withdrawal, and in the early 1960s was restored to open-cab condition and fully-lined Metropolitan Railway livery for the Centenary of the Metropolitan. After this she moved to the British Transport Museum at Clapham, and she is currently located in the main London Transport Museum at Covent Garden and looks to remain there for a very long time given her position on a higher-level floor.

No.23 after outshopping from Neasden in 1963.

And posed with some surviving Metropolitan Railway wagons.

At the BTM, Clapham.

And at what currently seems set to be her final resting place - the LTM at Covent Garden.

Izarra has been on outside display in Bilbao since the 1970s and by 2012 was in an appalling state. Here's what I take to be a 1970s photo compared with a 2000s photo:

Reading the above-linked Spanish forum thread, however, gives some encouraging photographs of the locomotive having its condition stabilised in 2012-13, although it now appears to carry a rather austere olive livery, the third photo seems to date from 2018.

The photos suggest that, despite years of outside storage, the loco appears to be in reasonably sound condition, though looks can often be deceptive and there appears to be a significant amount of filler on the tank sides.

 

I would greatly appreciate any information on any of these!

hey, so. nidd valley.. that was one of three liveries, one was kept in Metro red, the other was alleged to be put in either a dark brown or Bradford corporation orange.. as shown here with Nellie:

hope this helps! 

welcome back to rdw, I had a short break as was doing work on the layout. both fiddle yards are now in with track layed

next job, ballast & wiring up signals which I didn't even realise existed 

I've also bought some steelworks wagons off of @Narrow Gauge Jordanwhich I'll be picking up at some point... 

more decent progress, I've blocked off the furnace siding. I've test fitted some pipes to fill the gap where i have cut, and part of the hardstanding is back in place.

On 07/01/2021 at 21:35, Gordon A said:

My question is when did the yellow / orange flashing beacons start to be fitted to the roof of industrial diesels in the UK?

 

Gordon A

On 21/02/2021 at 15:13, doilum said:

Here goes. Only on with double sided tape at present.

I need this haha. My names Astley!

Corus ruston on river don

1 hour ago, Ruston said:

Is there anything specific that you want?

anything & everything to be fair, slag wagons, ignot wagons ect... 

hi all. Does anyone know where i could find some internal steelworks wagons in OO/HO? @Ruston do you have any idea? Cheers!

some more updates recently & two repaints have been completed!! 

So first, the layout update... first of all I've got the layout fully working now, and I've decided to isolate the line into the furnace & will be adding rolling corrogated doors/shutters there... 

the fiddle yard extension is well underway, but (typical me) I glued the wood the wrong way so doesn't line up right so isn't secured yet.... lol! 

so, onto the repaints.. Once again these have been done by my good friend Ben from Repaints by Ben (a link will be left at the bottom of this post) 

first up is my Hardys Hobbies ugly kit which Ben has built & painted.. 

this includes a number of extra detailing parts to make it look much more detailed! 

The livery is an adaption of the keighley and worth valley railways 57 "Samson"  into British steel, see the photo below.. 

the second repaint is a Ruston 48DS into corus yellow, to fit in with the 20 & 03... this includes a flashing orange light in the roof.... 

https://www.facebook.com/RepaintsByBen/

guess I've already started on mine... 

2x1.5

so. unfortunately the 3 way point decided to give up the ghost the other day... and work has already started on replacing it.. and I've finally started the extension I said I'd do, figured it was the perfect time. see the attached images, we also have a Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/3050100385107537/?ref=share and an Instagram page https://www.instagram.com/p/CQJNjNongKa/?utm_medium=copy_link

and just for the fun of it! a photo of all 14 of my 03s

17 minutes ago, Mark Saunders said:

It seems the scars of DJM are still there and deep with some!

Unfortunately they do