Unknown Warrior

Been looking at the Ribble Steam Railway at Preston.

 

They seem to have Barclays/Pecketts & Sentinels preserved there !

 

Feel a visit with the camera coming on some time soon !

We have two in traffic at The Ecclesbourne Valley Railway, just north of Derby. A 14” and a 16”, working on our 1 in 27 incline above Wirksworth. See posts near the beginning of this thread.

A point that leads me to think that this model is a case of style over substance and clearly aimed at the collectors market.

A Standard goods aka a Jumbo would be a much better choice for modellers.

Bernard

The Caley 812 (and the J36, not forgetting the Scottish Directors) are really good start to modelling Scottish Railways in a number of eras. To get two new locos in two months is probably beyond most of our wildest dreams on Jan 1st this year. The important thing is to get out in droves and buy these models, then hopefully it will encourage the manufacturers to dig deeper into the bag: a NBR Glen, a Caley 439 0-4-4T, a CR Jumbo, perhaps even an HR Jones Goods and a Ben plus rolling stock to go with them! The genie is out of the bottle of Scottish prototypes. Let’s hope it stays out!

Ok, I have pre - orded 2 of them. Frightening really, first rtr engines I have bought since the early 1980s. 

 

I expect folk will talk about details for ages till we see them, but for anyone interested these 3 books will help with the many variations in livery and fittings seen throughout the lives of these engines. 

 

Caley  828 , Jim Macintosh , ( published by CRA ) 

 

Caledonian Railway Livery , Jim Macintosh , (Lightmoor Press and the CRA) 

 

The Caledonian Railway Jumbos, H.J.C. Cornwell , (Lightmoor Press and the CRA) 

 

I just hope they run as well as my tatty old black liveried one, a rough video of which can be seen here as a wee taster. 

 

http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/blog/2091/entry-19965-shunting-part-2-look-no-hands/

Three excellent books, well worth getting.

The nice lady on the Rails stand said 18 months .

My worst fears, that means the G5 and the Caley 812 could arrive at the same time!

Perhaps they will do this version some time. I'll get my coat!

I pre-ordered with a deposit. I think.

 

But your site only charged me 4 drinking tokens, not 30. It deducted 26 for some reason.

 

Have I broken the interweb?

Worry not they will have deducted £30, just a software glitch! Have already been in touch.

Two photos of 828 at Llangollen Steel,Steam and Stars 3, 27.4.2012 complete with Unknown Warrior name plate. Not sure about the driver though!

Might be a naive question, but what are the differences?

Different shades of blue.

How do we pay the deposit? - isnt an option as I can see on the website

I have contacted Rails about this and they have taken my £30! Programming glitch!

Will the G5 be queue jumping the Midland 0-4-4T? I hope not.

I believe that the Midland 0-4-4T is well down the development line. My biggest fear is that all three including the Caley 812 will arrive all at the same time!

 

TMC are quoting 12th June 2020 as the provisional delivery date. I am hoping the Midland 0-4-4T will have arrived before then.

Bachmann are going to be busy! An expensive day with the Caley 812 as well. Two items off my wish list in 5 mins!

What a fantastic choice. Congratulations to Rails and Bachmann. Preorder on its way!

Mine arrived this morning. Looks great.

If you step back and look at it, Hornby has out classed Bachmann on GWR, SR and is only a few short of LMS and LNER, The blue box is definitely fading in colour to the weaker brand, all Hornby needs do now is become profitable...and get the paint right.

Not sure how you work this out. Hornby have always produced large locos and dominated that area. However Bachmann produce a fantastic range of small and medium size locos, which are more useful for the layouts many of us operate. Bachmann have now moved effectively into older coaching stock with the exquisite Birdcage Stock right in the Southern heartland! If anything they have strengthen their one weak suit : The Southern. As Hornby staple diet of large locos dried up they have had to move into the small loco market with the Peckett, the J15, the H Class and now the J36 but they still hanker after large locos hence the Duchesses and the Lord Nelson.

 

I am happy to buy good quality models whoever makes them if they are prototypes that interest me. I want to see a healthy market where all can make money and so produce more models. In spite of the deluge of new models in recent years there are still many steam locos to produce yet. I acknowledge that Diesel and Electric prototypes are more limited.

This is going to be a fantastic addition to the 009 range. They are going to be so small! What a leap forward. Well done Bachmann!

Definitely, I love the GWR but I've really warmed to the LMS in recent years.

I do of course acknowledge Mr Churchward’s massive contribution to locomotive design in the 20th century, but then I am only following Mr Gresley in this view!

However, I really don't understand how there is so little for the GWR modeller from red and blue box.  Is the GWR now the least popular of the big 4 group of companies?  I always thought that the GWR would be the most popular of them all or at the very least within the mix given how well represented it is in the preservation scene.  I alluded to the King not being particularly successful in an earlier post but I'm still surprised there's not even a new wagon tooling available of some sort.  There is some good stuff in there and I hope it does well but I'm slightly bemused that both the major manufacturers have barely represented the GWR in their 2018 range and what this might mean for future Great Western releases.

Just shows what a fantastic job the LMS Society has done since it’s formation in the 1960’s to draw people’s attention to the fact that it is the Big Four, not the Big One. Obviously of course the LMS is in pole position!

I take it nobody at Hornby or on here for that matter will be watching 'Great British railway journeys' tonight considering the contemporary railway is 'boring' and of 'not much interest'?

The series is fantastic, everyone tells me more about the contributions the UK has made to the World, often because of the effect of the Railways. Perhaps a bit beyond the normal scope of the average railway modeller!

 

I watched it. Another fascinating edition, which is probably why it has spawned trips across Europe and the States.

There are more plausible contenders for a sound-fitted wagon. Cattle wagons, for example - imagine a rake of them mooing all round the layout!

With a moo moo here and a moo moo there, here a moo, there a moo, everywhere a moo moo! Wonder if Hornby can add the “moos” to the sounds file before release, Belted Galloways for preference to go with the J36! Just need to fit a cattle wagon body then!

 

By the way none of the Southern Fans have mentioned the U Class. Just thought I’d mention it.

 

Well that could be enough silliness for today, perhaps!

There's plenty of D&E subjects than AC electrics.

 

Class 104, 114, (new)155, 165, 175, 185 DMU's, Southern EMU's such as the 4BIG/CIG, 455, 456, 442, 465.... and many many wagon opportunities.

You forgot the Fell and the Derby Lightweight single unit “Iris!”

Now that the dust is settling from two announcements in two days, I think it is fair to say Bachmann and Hornby have both come up with excellent releases for 2018. They have both found ways of depriving me from my money, however I should be able to shrink my back order list over the next few months, which is good news for my wallet. Depends on what appears from elsewhere!

 

My wish list has shrunk quite considerably over the last couple of years. Of course there are models I would like to see but realistically, financially I can’t afford them all at once anyway! Anyway it leaves plenty of excitement for 2019and beyond! One thing is for sure, the bar is constantly being raised. The Bachmann crane is a case in point, the very highest stands of model engineering and craftsmanship.

Why should 'a professional military historian' not be prone to daft statements? Repeating the claim that Haig was a war criminal is a daft thing to do.

It is the duty of Historians to objectively reassess the accepted assessments of events as more information is released into the public domain. This can often lead to to unpalatable thoughts being aired. There is nothing more painful than the death of an illusion as someone once said. Churchill’s role in the later stages of the Second World War have recently come under scrutiny and not always to his benefit. This is the historian’s duty. We may not agree with their assessment but that doesn’t mean that they are daft!

 

Sorry Andy. Posted this while you were also posting.

Double ended con rod nut spanner: great addition, been wanting one for years! Really useful. Maude in preserved livery a real bonus!

The Fowler and Stanier class 3 2-6-2T's ran 3-coach trains day-in and day out from Llandudno up the steep and winding branch to Blaenau Ffestiinog. They were considered failures in the hobby-press. Funny thing is, the LNWR class 1 2-4-2T's and 0-6-2T's also ran the services without trouble before the war with two and sometimes three coaches when an LNWR observation car was attached. In the 1990's, the Riddles BR Standard Class 4 2-6-4T's stalled on the incline to Pont-Y-Pant with 6 coaches, which is what some of us had expected and they had to work the line with only 4 coaches. In wet weather, I doubt the passenger trains could have been entrusted to these 2-6-4T's. Makes yer wonder.

The main thing that defeated the standard four tanks going up to Blaenau was the shap curvature before the tunnel which has/had a check rail.it was the binding on the curve with a six coach train.

Has anybody fitted Dcc sound to this yet ?

If so how did it go?

Was lucky enough to get one of the three SE&CR liveried ones fitted with sound and renumber as the Bluebell loco for Warley by TMC. All three were sold, strangely enough! Sounds Great.