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9 minutes ago, Fat Controller said:

There are one heck of a lot of Banana Vans in this photo

The sidings in the background appear to have hundreds more vans?

This link to a Cambridge University image appears to show a lot of banana vans, although perhaps somebody else can confirm that, it dates from 1964 at Garston (Liverpool). Zooming into the ship unloading in the foreground it is connected to bits of infrastructure labelled Fyffes, and the vans have circular spots on them.

https://cudl.lib.cam.ac.uk/view/PH-GEOGRAPHY-AJN-00015/1

3 hours ago, Mallard60022 said:

TPE using those then but on the York, Leeds, Sheffield route?

Also, could anyone in the know let me know when further LNER services, other than the Leeds, are to be introduced please?

Lovely pics by the way. Looks slightly odd with that space ship style item running through what is an almost ageless area.

Phil

Hi Phil, I noticed an advert on Platform 1 the other day saying 'arriving 27th' which is bank holiday Monday, that suggested to me that one of next weeks diagrams that actually stops at 36E may be converted to 80x from Monday, though I may have extrapolated from too little information. I.

well Annie, there is no need to map it, what you need to do is incorporate a Doggerland Railway, it solves all the problems of requiring extra Norfolk you could possibly imagine, see here

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doggerland

one of the maps on there already look like the start of a railway system

this, cropped from the 2nd last shot, is the building with a bellcote much discussed some time back

The tankers are numbered BRT 84183 - BRT 84192 classed as nitric acid tanks  , originally in UKF livery  , some were later rebranded to Hays for sulphuric acid ( my list shows BRT 84184 , 185 , 192 were in this traffic ) I think the nitric acid  was between Ince and Elton to Sellafield

For those interested Paul Rolley does an O gauge model of them

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I've never come across this suppliers name before, google hasn't found anything, could I ask if you have contact details or a web link please

thanks, I.

.. the (can't say 'their' as I am a member) forum is very off-putting to one who is happy to "Play trains".

I find the most fun to be had on the g0g forum is to block some of the vocal members, easy to do, all the more contentious threads are then much shorter, and I find its much more fun to imagine what 'jim' said when people reply with phrases like 'as jim said', or 'I disagree with what jim said' *others names are of course applicable here

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I'd make another recommendation for the seat61.com site, I've use it for planning real trips, copenhagen via hamburg, koln and brussels most recently and for dreaming about alternatives to flying whenever possible, he has a lot of useful hints about through ticketing, and the CIV conditions of carriage relating to missed connections

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was the local bigwig a company director? I seem to remember the town had some connection with the Black Watch as well

Phil, thank you for your company today. I can report to his followers that the Duck was well behaved most of the time but a good job we had his tracker on as he kept stopping with his beak open to look at yet another exhibit, or exhibitor, many were admired for their cuteness and curves and some of those were locos. Meanwhile I suspect his sizable investment in brass section should build an SOSJ canopy with remarkable physical strength.

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Make sure you have had yer tea before looking at this.

 

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This is the message to say that it is a good idea to use Factor 50 and get any little 'non healing spots' checked.

Done on Friday, recovered this afternoon, hopefully stitches out on Friday afternoon.

Good excuse not to do anything strenuous.

More time to be annoying on here.

Phil

please look after your head wound!

... and don't show it again before the watershed

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Hi Phil

thanks for today, I cannot remember if you have these further back in the thread but the NLS map site for SJ in 1890's-1910's has this, so a bit earlier than you want, but what is interesting to me is that A) there are 2 turntables behind the goods shed, B) the current void in the air photo of the present buildings is precisely the footprint of the goods shed (run mouse round one and watch the second cursor trace the route on the other), and  C) the dotted line to the SE of the shed running parallel to the line 'appears' to correspond to the wall we were discussing earlier

webref is here, this should give 1:25inch and satelite comparison if I've got it right

http://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/side-by-side/#zoom=19&lat=50.7631&lon=-3.0659&layers=168&right=BingSat

Somebody on here has intervened twice recently on a thread with 'Damn Straight!' which from the context is clearly an appreciative comment, but not one that I've come across and which puzzles me more than somewhat.

If anybody has any clues or explanations they'd be much appreciated.

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This is getting like the Gauge 0 Guild forum, and not in a good way.

and its the same person in both places

I wondered if anyone would be intrigued by that comment. I'll be more specific. It was, and still is aquatic group sex. Seven of them when I last counted.

Ah, it'll probably be toads then, anybody in the vicinity of Fowlmere RSPB reserve will see them in their hundreds if they go there this time of year, really quite spectacular

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The central station had some model trains on display in cases on the concourse last summer, they weren't running, perhaps they don't run but worth looking out for them, I only spotted them dashing for my train home.

I fear its going to become widespread, the Hull Trains open access operator from London up the ECML has taken them off in recent months. I asked one of the staff about it and they implied that it had become too difficult on very overloaded trains and they were being put in increasingly invidious positions trying to 'manage' it. Personally I think its a retrograde step, but I can see the antagonism isn't something you'd want to deal with every working day, probably not helped by them being only 5 coach trains, 1 first class, and the 1 quiet coach always being at the London end at KX so it gets the late arrivals, unbooked etc. I've seen people ripping off the quiet signs when confronted by passengers, others simply argue they cannot be heard, or have a right to use their phone. VTEC have the advantage theirs (for slum class anyway) are at the far end of much longer trains, but it doesn't always work well on those when the loadings are very high.

The last time I used a Eurostar they were trialling quiet coaches, so perhaps there is still some hope for those of us wanting some quiet, though I've no idea if that has been implemented fully

Thanks. Yes I am aware of the differences but fortunately they are outside of the area being modelled.

 

For anyone wondering what we are talking about this photo shows the replacement trusses behind one of the originals:

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apart from admiring the stunning and absolutely brilliant modelling here I'd also like to thank you for opening my eyes to the Kings Cross shed roof, hadn't previously noticed these but I was stood under some of the replacments waiting for the doors to be unlocked on my train home this week.

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No British Railway had a 'pathological fear of facing points' because what they were actually doing was complying with the law of the land as evidenced in the Board of Trade (latterly Dept of Transport) Requirements which for many years made it clear that the use of facing points was to be avoided on passenger lines except where such use was unavoidable, for example in the approaches to a terminus, junction, or major station.  So facing points simply weren't used - and of course they weren't much use anyway to access sidings off a running line.

 

 

I've been pondering this a while, and apologies for going back up the thread a bit, I've decided in the light of this that I don't understand what defines a facing point and so I'd be grateful for being put right. On the ECML as I travel up and down there are goods loops, and station loops, both with points at each end, the 125s and electrics and whatever all go through these at 100+ when staying on the main and since the slowing trains go forwards into the loop to the station platform (eg at Retford and Peterborough, there are others) and forwards back onto the main it seems to me that logically one or other end must be a 'facing point'. So which end, and if not why is this not an fp, and what is it called instead, and if its the case they are fp's on the main at full speed which era did those strictures against facing points discussed above stop being true, and why? Confused.

I now have a copy of the Parkside by Peco catalogue to hand

can I ask are they avilable in magazines, and which ones?

or are they at model shops to pick up?

thanks in advance

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Sadly, my life is so busy, I've not had a day off for several months now

Even my last evening off was some 5 or 6 weeks back

If it was Nov 18th next year.... I might be in with a shout

 

I was once fairly prolific at this modelling lark, building 3 layouts in 18 months! But I'd be lucky to get time to build one layout (a micro at that) in 5 years,,, 

honestly, that would even be pushing it lol

If only.... if only (he says, fingers crossed)

 

I think I've got a night off, in December... but that's after the deadline

no its not...it is November 2018, see the cakebox chat thread where first page somewhere the horses mouth says; 'Closing date TBC but we're looking at the end of November 2018. You have a year.'

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Today my DCC Concepts Catalogue arrived. If you ain't got one then get one. It is like looking at the future. There is stuff in there I didn't know existed and they have wires and some green things with solder on. They even have some lovely levers.......

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a couple of weeks back, I found myself in their shop in Settle, came out much lighter of wallet, having been fed tea and biscuits and had a lovely chat about this and that, I think my favourite manufacturer, after Peco of course, still playing with all the gadgets I didn't really need but I've had lots of fun, I wonder if my Cakebox challenge entry could just be their catalogue and some flashing lights, what size is it Phil, would it fit in a cakebox?

... to keep this properly on topic I saw their BH track whilst I was there too, no idea what gauge it was

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Bliddy eck, someone lost their dummy in that last bit (not 75C).

forgot to take his calming pills perhaps?

I think you're all getting yourselves into a right Tiswas over these now elderly ladies.

 

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I couldn't quite believe the web address in the bottom corner of this image, but sure enough it exists, blimey, that really could be called the peekaboob thread, small wonder everybody only has time for rtr track and no modelling according the professional grumblers elsewhere