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  1. An evening at Luton with an early renumbered peak amongst many old numbered classmates. A day at hitchin followed...

    All very different today!

     

    04/05/73 Fr

    Luton

    1632,50102/59008/50101/50054,50 1M49,4139,50075/50060/50111,102 1C79,108 1D46,134 1M86,70 1C84,141 1E16,1825 8V15,6579 CJ,5186 4C00,5251 8O31,1619 4S53,119 1D48,

    45103,1532 4M59,5222 8E11,40 6M34,100 1E58,117 1C80

    05/05/73 Sa

    Hitchin

    1545 1L05,50387/50376/56432/50996,5648 2Z99,1743 6C30,1503 1A01,9005 1A43,1971 1L22,3876,9007 1A61,3712,5626 3T44,1510 1A04,5642 1B66,17331A05,5677 1B66,1532 6E30,

    1578 1G39,1538 1G40,1516 1A06,9004 1S17,1779 1G41,1974 1L09,1508 1A08,50367,5626 6T44,

    1532 0C00,278 3S22,5627/5592 0B05,1500 1A09,9011 1N10,1508 1G07,56123/51472,1519 1A10,

    1550 1A60,9014 1A11,5642 1B66,9006 1L13,5650 1B66,173 1N14,9012 1S32,271 1A14,1577 1A62,9020 1A16,5627 0B00,1503 1D04

     

    happy days

     

    NR

     

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  2. looking through my old East coast records a 1G70 "gold bullion" train was viewed several times through mid 70's Hitchin. Last time i saw it was up empty bullion flats in October 81. Does anybody know any more information on these trains, from hazy memory they were containers presumably very high value. Motive power was always a 31 so a lightweight train in terms of tonnage if not value!

     

    thanks

     

    NR

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  3. Good to see this topic back live...!

    Back on August 17th 1976 I spent the early afternoon at Chalton on the Midland just North of Leagrave.

     

    45149 p

    45127 p

    45105 p

    45118 p

    45125 p

    47074 fr

    45121 p

    25266 fr

    45120 p

    45150 p

    45102 p

    45131 p

    46035 p

    25127} ore

    23129}

    45101 p

    45118 p

    25218 fr

     

    EH Peaks ruled as usual , 46035 was welcomed,  but 46's were pretty regular back then.. Borrowed prior to / after .Derby works

    visits I assume.

     

    happy days!

     

    NR

     

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    p = pass fr - freight

  4. Re the image of Carlisle and it being advised as 4A signal box can anybody confirm if the boarded up platform level window is where the train running board used to be. Kept us all informed of late running overnight services that one, many a rover replanned on seeing 60L come up! simply Headcode and lateness logged I think. Gone by the mid 80's another chink of the railway lost?

     

    thanks

     

    Nick

  5. many thanks to you all for the knowledgeable replies and links. The Filey Holiday camp has quite a history will visit one weekend to view the surviving relics and help build the picture. Looks classic modelling material with class 31/37/40/45/47/55  visits plus a huge variety of DMUs. Class 20/24/25/27/46 must also have been possible down the branch too? After the branch closed in 1980 a deltic was diagrammed for the Filey - Newcastle which it worked to Scarborough for the Bridlington - Kings X forward from Scarborough so holiday camp forays as suggested by Ray M were likely too.

     

    a fascinating branch

     

    thanks again

     

    NR

  6. The short Filey Holiday camp branch closed in 1977. I travelled  on several Filey HC bound trains but never once they left York. Trains like the Newcastle - Filey HC, did they run round at York, Scarborough and Filey before reaching the Butlins terminus or did 31's/37's  work the trains down the branch from Filey?

    The disused stations website has a photo of 45002 on a Leicester - Filey HC service at the terminus so it looks as if the branch handled type 4's. Be intrigued to hear how the several loco hauled branch trains were worked with the many run rounds needed 

     

    Doesn't seem a well reported branch online so any memories welcome!

     

    thanks in advance

     

    Nick R

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  7. A few lineside memories here, peaks ruled that day in 73 on the Midland!

     

    NR

     

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    "The magic of the cup", Luton 3rd February 1973

     

    A very busy Saturday morning  on the Midland, 10 specials , including 2 "Hatters" footexes, 10 47's (3 was more normal), the usual 25's and 46's, plus 23 of the ever dominant class 45's. Old numbers were carried by all locos seen, later TOPS numbers included for reference

     

     

    68 (45046) 6M31Ripple Lane-Rowley Regis oil

    1856 (47206)  1Z71 (Luton-Newcastle footex 1)

     61 (45112) 1C06  0630 Nottingham-St Pancras

    52 (45123) 1Z72 (Luton-Newcastle footex 2),

    4139 (08909)

    173 (46036) 1C08 0700 Nottingham-St Pancras

    87 (45127) 1E41 0815 St Pancras-Sheffield

    104 (45063) 6E43 Northfleet-Thoresby MGR e’s

    75 (45052) 1P08 0835 St Pancras-Derby,

    39 (45033) 1C10 0650 Derby-St Pancras

    69 (45047) 1C18 0750 Nottingham-St Pancras

    131 (45074) 1M04 0723 Sheffield-St Pancras

    37 (45009)  1S68 0905 St Pancras-Glasgow C

    72 (45050) 1M11 0713 Sheffield-St Pancras

    1701 (47113) 6C35 Brent-Dunstable oil (to Luton Bute St headshunt)

    127 (45072) 5T44 up ECS,

    163 (46026) 1D06 0935 St Pancras-Nottingham

    125 (45071) 1C23 0815 Nottingham-St Pancras

    93 (45057) 1C19 0855 Nottingham-St Pancras

    1692 (47104) 1E78 1005 St Pancras-Leeds C

    40 (45133) 1M13 0810 Sheffield-St Pancras

    1960 (47514) 1Z60 St Pancras-Sheffield footex (Crystal Palace footex),

    1701 (47113) 4S32 Luton-Johnstone cars

    173 (46036) 1P10 1030 St Pancras-Derby

    97 (45058) 1C26 0900 Nottingham-St Pancras

    1730 (47138) 8M68 Leagrave-Westbury stone

    1761 (47166) 1Z92 St Pancras-Sheffield footex (Crystal Palace footex)

    1983 (47281) 6M53 Ripple Lane-Kingsbury oil

    72 (45050) 1T43 St Pancras-Derby footex (Tottenham footex)

    83 (45142) 8015 Wellinborough-Cuxton coal

    55 (45144) 1M14 0900 Sheffield-St Pancras

    131 (45074) 1E11 1105 St Pancras-Sheffield

    7663/7593 (25313/25243) 8L35 Wellinborough-Cricklewood coal

    7570 (25220) 8T61 Bedford-Cricklewood trip

    39 (45033) 1T41 St Pancras-Derby footex (Tottenham footex)

    1867(47217)  6E56 0850 Langley-Immingham oil

    1854 (47204) 1T42 St Pancras-Derby footex (Tottenham footex)

    121 (45069) 1M51 0801 Manchester-St Pancras

    7540 (25190) 9X45 addit engineers

    69 (45047) 1D08 1130 St Pancras-Nottingham

    107 (45120) down  oil

    93 (45057)  1E13 1205 St Pancras-Sheffield

    1617(47036)  1T44 St Pancras-Derby footex (Tottenham footex)

    155 (46018) 1C41 1051 Nottingham-St Pancras

    61 (45112) 1P14 1230 St Pancras-Derby

    113 (45128) 6E35 Northfleet-Wellbeck Coll MGR e’s

    7570 (25220) 0Z00 Cricklewood-Luton l/e

    56 (45137) 6E45 Rowley Regis-Ripple Lane

    125 (45071) 1E06 1305 St Pancras-Sheffield,

    118 (45068) 1M17 1100 Sheffield-St Pancras

     

    For the record..the FA cup round 4 results that day were:

     

    Newcastle 0 Luton 2

    Derby 1 Tottenham 1

    Sheff Wed 1 Palace 1

    Luton got through to the quarter finals before losing to Sunderland.

     

    The Power...(41 locos)

     

    Class 08 - 4139 (08909)  1

    Class 25 - 7540, 7570, 7593, 7663 (25190/220/243/313)  4

    Class 45 - 37, 39, 40, 52, 55, 56, 61, 68, 69, 72, 75, 83, 87, 93, 97, 104, 107, 113, 118, 121, 125, 127, 131  - 23

    (45009/033/133/137/123/144/112/046/047/072/050/127/057/058/142/063/074/071/069/120/128/072/068)

    Class 46  155, 163, 173 3 (46026/018/036)

    Class 47  1617, 1692, 1701, 1730, 1761, 1854, 1856, 1867, 1960, 1983 10 (47036/104/113/138/166/204/206/217/281/514)

     

    Where are they now?

     

    Most have gone to the Midland Main line in the sky but…..

     

    40 (45133) preserved

    61 (45112) preserved

    1854 (47204) rebuilt as 57012

    1856 (47206) rebuilt as 57605

    1617 (47760) in service - West Coast

    1730 (47786) in service - West Coast

    1960 (47514) now 47703 preserved

    4139 (08909) in service - DB

    7663 (25313) preserved

     

     

    not quite the same at Luton without them!!

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