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That sounds like fun! And complicated. In real life, of course, wagons roll at different speeds for a variety of reasons, hence the retarders. I'm almost inspired to have a go. All I'd need would be a Cl13 with good gearing so it creeps happily (I know Hornby's is good for this, but one that's even better would be needed for a hump 13)

Or TT 3mm

Class 50, but I'll wager that Accurascale will announce that soon...

So on that basis, a Class 180 is out? Looks like we'll never get an RTR one in 4mm (or TT )

It depends how much attention to detail someone would want from an RTR 13? There were numerous other detail differences (minor or major dependant on your view of these things, which judging by most comments on RMweb, would seem to be 'deal-breakers'), which is one challenge as a 'generic' 08 would fall short...

Certainly does! I wasn't aware of that either. The tri-tone 'chime' horn was developed for the 91/DVT, I understand, due to the initial plan to run at 140mph/225 km/h to give sufficient warning for trackside staff.

Fancy running your brake tenders behind a BR blue Class 33? Then throw Rule 1 out of the window! Loose Grip's photo: "London Latchmere Junction 8th October 1976. I associate brake tenders with the North-east for some reason but here Class 33 diesel 33006 heads south with two of them at London Latchmere Junction, near Clapham Junction on the West London Extension Joint Railway from Kensington Olympia. "At that time the only passenger trains to traverse this section of railway were GPO staff services that only ran at rush hours during the week to and from Olympia. "What is startling compared to today's railway views is the lack of vegetation to shield sight of the train, even in urban areas like this. In the last couple of years I've passed this way quite a lot on support crew turns but I have failed to identify the location probably because it is behind a wall of greenery today." Source: https://www.flickr.com/photos/loose_grip_99/353965414/in/photostream/

Of course, if you don’t fancy doing your own DIY conversion, there’s always Olivia’s Trains. Not available at the moment ‘due to a lack of donor models’ so no price. In 2014 they were charging £275, so at least £300 now?

I haven't counted yet, but someone will, despite there only being three Class 13s, there were a number of livery variations, plus in the very early days they ran 'cab-to- former cab'. NMP.

For those who haven't signed up to Rapido Trains UK's newsletter yet, the latest issue is now out. Alongside project updates, they've dangled a carrot of a OO RTR Class 13, if enough people would buy one... It would come out at around £300, they reckon. Rule 1 always applies! Talking about RTR OO BR diesels, the newsletter says: "With obvious opportunities few and far between, what gaps are left are risky territory. Take the Class 13, Tinsley Yard’s famous ‘master and slave’ shunters. It’s an iconic class for sure and not available RTR. But would enough people be prepared to pay £300 for a 'OO' gauge model? And are there several thousand people willing to spend that much to warrant the investment in producing it? Probably not. "Seriously, would £300 for a 'OO' gauge Class 13 put you off? If not, let us know. If we get enough, we might make it a reality!" You can sign up to the newsletter here https://rapidotrains.co.uk/newsletter/

Second run material? The 'famous' 7816 Frilsham Manor that survived well into BR days with smokebox numberplate, and its GWR lettered tender

While Dapol can be 'hit and miss' with both detail and/or paint finish, its latest GW 2-6-0 has had good reviews, despite using its 'trademark' odd half-and-half stick on chimney which does look odd and 'toy like'. Shame.

£67.95 at retailers, call it £68. Of course, they have passengers and lights too. Oh, hang on a minute...

Good grief!

Some more inspiration, with what appears to be a very grubby 6-wheeler. Obviously, we all need a B3; jolly handsome! Source: https://www.facebook.com/photo?fbid=2880520362224199&set=gm.3728479410507309

Has anyone tried fitting a resistor to reduce the LED output, given that oil lamps were presumably not very bright in real life (never seen a 1:1 in action)?

I tried to order last night and had problems with a 'internal server error' fail. I've spoken with Gary at Naval & Military who apologies and says he can see a number of other orders that failed. He uses 3rd party software, which has never failed before, and says it's all up and running and advises people to try again. He also confirms that he does have small stock of the two Tourret books available.

This may have been posted in one of the other 38 pages on this thread, if so, admin please delete! Otherwise, here's some prototype inspiration. DE962673 at Stratford in about 1965. Not listed by Longworth but believed to be an ex GER 6-wheel Brake Third. Photo: Graham Young Source: https://www.ltsv.com/rd/photo_view.php?id=5387

Pallets are fascinating. Did you know there is a Euro Pallet (ePal) and the rest of the world. If you want to learn more and have 12 minutes of your life spare, then listen to 'The Boring Talks' episode 4. Trust me, for people like us, this talks are anything but boring! Link here: https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p05xltbh [They haven't done one about pannier liveries. Yet]

Hornby says that an international catalogue is available, priced at £7.50 (https://www.Hornby.com/uk-en/shop/international-brands/international-new-for-2021/Hornby-international-2021-catalogue.html). A quick peruse shows there are 307 items in the 2021 international range, although I can't see any mention of new tooling. However, the return of a number of liveries is most welcome, for me the DR double-deck coaches after a long absence is great. https://www.Hornby.com/uk-en/shop/international-brands/international-new-for-2021/rivarossi-h0-1-87-dr-4-unit-set-of-double-decker-coaches-with-cab-control-unit-and-six-air-vent-roofs-dark-green-livery-period-iv.html

Andy, Thanks, that's helpful to know. Can you enforce Covid rules too

During and since the weekend I've had a number of 'topic notification' emails, yet when I click the link, the post is not on the topic (Bargain Hunters Mk2). I assumed that maybe the poster had deleted the content (or the admin had) yet they seemed innocuous. I restarted my browser but it made no difference. I've just received another one, and as they are from at least three different posters, I'm beginning to think that it's an error. Also, I've noticed that some posts have been made to the topic, yet I've not had an email notification about them (I'm set up for instant notifications) Attached is a screenshot of the latest 'no-show' post for info

I guessed it would be a 4-wheel wagon, as they are cheaper to manufacture, so went for the MTV/Zander as it’s a simple wagon that had a (relatively) long life. But, I’d have never gone for this in a million years. Indeed, I wasn’t even aware of them, and I class myself as a bit of a wagon geek...

I'm going to put my fiver on the MTV (later the Zander), built from the 1970s onwards on 35t tank chassis and finished off in engineers' use. NMP EDIT: Paul Bartlett's page says: "From 1975 Standard wagon built new open box bodies on the underframes from 150 ESSO vacuum braked tank wagons. These were branded MTV and were used for stone, aggregate, sand, scrap etc. From the late 1980s they were transferred to the Engineers fleet and coded Zander" Source: https://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/mtvzander

Was only announced in the mag, and because MR is semi-banned into the broom cupboard behind the stairs under 'smaller suppliers' (despite the fact that they've delivered more than some of those in the 'manufacturers' category, it's not easy to see what's going on. Shame.