the-gog

Agree with you there I was hoping to purchase one for a small layout I quite fancy building representing The Shropshire & Montgomeryshire Railway when it was Under the control of the Military. These diminutive trolleys were used by Military personal for patrols along the line and often had flag on a long pole when they were parked up in a siding so that they could be seen during shunting movements.

I think it should be possible to motorise it without the trailer. DCC wiring could be hid behind the gangers with the circuitry hidden in the roof.

Now to find some Ganger's to sit inside.

Ganger's what? Coat? Tools? Copy of The Sun or Racing Post?

All we now need are 4mm scale St Trinian's teachers, one of whom holding a megaphone.

The problem is that KMRC are taking all the flak on this issue - MR simply aren't responding. It wouldn't surprise me if this is making KMRC's staff feeling pretty grumpy about it. I've not had any problems in the past with them.

RWJ

Most interesting. So much for everyone telling me that the only way to get sound is to use DCC.

I do run a Hornby sound-fitted rebuilt Bulleid 34040 on DC,not as contollable, admittedly,as it would be onDCC but nonetheless perfectly acceptable and very convincing. At the DEMU Show last year I asked the Kernow chaps whether I could run a 'Thumper' on DC only and was told I could.Hence,I posted the question. I would like to have sound because I think the Class 40 had the most distinctive sound of all diesels. In fact,the sound is its "signature". I think I will contact Barwell on this one.Thanks.

In which case I'll gladly take my words back. Well done :-)

I was in a model shop today (just buying paint and electrolube, not idly looking around, honest) when I heard the sound of a sound chipped loco coming from the back. When I asked they said it was a Bachmann 40 they'd got in for a customer and were checking it for him. Now I was told that the loco was on DC - certainly started up, idled and sounded like it was running at speed.  I haven't tried a sound chipped loco on dc myself but could be worth further investigation with Bachmann if you want to run on DC?  In any case it certainly sounded good imho.

In which case I'm astonished. I'm most intrigued by this.

This is going to cause a sharp intake of breath and therolling of many pairs of eyes skywards......but can this be operated on DC and if it can what range of sound,if any,could be achieved ?Apologies for my heresy...but I only asked.The sound of a 40 remains in my ears from way back....1959.

Nothing. If you've bought a DCC sound-fitted loco to run on DC, you've just chucked £100+ in the bin. It won't run on DC. Nada. Nothing. I had to remove the DCC chip from mine to ge it to run on DC on my rolling road. Sound? You'll get motor and gear whine, but that's it.

Doesn't matter what voltage it can still catch fire if it overheats.

Before it gets to the overheating stage, it will have tripped out/burnt out any controller, so I don't see that it will happen.

But it is an electrical item and has the potential.

At 16v????

Trying things like the hand of God and dragging it up and down with a Hornby 60 had no regenerative effect either.

Pah, for added realism, you should've dragged it with two class 25 locos. See the rat vs whistler "wars" in the early 80s and things like "Rat Poison" and "Anti Forty Times"

magazines.

RWJ

Apropos to all this, I removed the dcc chip and replaced it with the blanking plug, and stuck it on the rolling road. It runs sweet as anything, so that's a major relief. At some point I'll put the dcc chip back in and take it for a spin on a friend's layout.

RWJ

OK, I'll have a dig back through....but the question I have is, why should the consumer 'sort it' when the product should work properly out of the box? Surely it should not require user modification due to poor design? Bachmann should recall and fix themselves IMHO....

Bachmann have stated that people are welcome to send the 40s back to their service department. The problem is that they're no better after being returned.

Yes, they say a European manufacturer. Time will tell.

How much do you want to bet it'll be ViTrains?

Photoes of the model of 33002 show the model without the high intensity light. She did run as such in Dutch but most of Dutch life was with.

 

Thanks for the REX update. It would be good to know what else that REX intended that Heljan missed.

Does anybody know if REX intend to get somebody else to manufacture 33s to their detailed spec?

I have taken the liberty of moving your comma; I think your sentence is more accurate now.      

"I have raised my expectations about the fact that it should at least run once, out of the box."

Which is more than my 40 has managed. Even at full 12v on the rollers, it just crawled for a few minutes before stalling. During this time, the LEDs were fully lit. I wonder what it's like with sage & onion stuffing? Gobble gobble!

I've just put mine on a DC rolling road, and same results. Lights come on, but that's it. Motor shudders a bit, but does no more than that. Hereford Models claim they tested it prior to despatch, but I can't really understand, as if they had done, they'd have found out it's dud.

RWJ

http://www.flickr.com/groups/cfas/discuss/72157625726740402/

Yes, the same place with a hyperlink added. I'm doing this from my phone, so it's awkward.

Seems the old class 40s are a bit of a minefield when it comes to detail differences. I think I might start a thread to help those who may not know some things to watch out for.

 

Cheers Peter.

Seems the old class 40s are a bit of a minefield when it comes to detail differences. I think I might start a thread to help those who may not know some things to watch out for.

 

Cheers Peter.

See http://www.flickr.com/groups/cfas/discuss/72157625726740402/ for this.

As the latest 40 body has separate nose ends, as per 37's, they just need centre box nose ends with headlights.

Well, that's good news.

Super!

The CFPS Bachmann Limited Edition BR Blue 40 145 had headlights, so it's likely the L/L version will also.

It depends I'd they've done the tooling for it.

They regularly made it to York, singly or in multiple, on the Cliffe-Uddingston (by Glasgow) cement trains in the 1960s, being replaced there by, very often, a 40

 

Paul

Concidentally, John Turner has uploaded a photo of 2x 33 at York in the 60s:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/blue-diesels/12266730184/

"A pair of Cromptons at York - D6525 & D6554 approach York station with the Uddingston (Lanarkshire) to Cliffe (Kent) cement train - 30/07/1962.

Anyone make 4mm wheel scotches??

We should suggest to Bachmann they include it as an accessory with their 40s.

RWJ

I dont like the way the multiple working cables stick out the sides of the bogies, they are seriously over scale and look like a bodybuilders shoulders.

Scope for someone to make a whitemetal scale replacement. It's just a push fit into the bogie sideframe.