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06.00 ex Bristol this morning was HST due an issue at Parkway. Currently sat on 17.30 ex Padd going nowhere, tanoy announcement for Hitachi fitter to go to driver, it does make me wonder why they air their technical issues to the public so openly...

A couple of Kibri models may suit but of course they are HO; https://www.ebay.co.uk/i/263323761963?chn=ps&dispctrl=1&adgroupid=43667893375&rlsatarget=pla-381570890543&abcId=1128926&adtype=pla&merchantid=110325603&poi=&googleloc=9045609&device=c&campaignid=857232711&crdt=0

Indeed it probably owes it survival to that. Thank goodness the scrotes that tried to set it on fire at BR failed to do any more damage to it.

I don't think Alan would have an issue with that as he has a thing for HST's, I am not a massive fan of them! Always up for a good project and Rapido have postponed their one. Thanks Martyn, I found this link including a photo taken presumably on the same day when I was having a mega browse on the phone last night (stuck for 6 hours on the M42 after the tragic accident):http://www.d8233.org.uk/gallery_others.htm. I can't find pics of the class 15 in Bristol before the mid 80's so a bit out of period but an easy one to model as Heljan have produced a model of the heating unit It could definitely be filled with some odd ball stock by the sound of it Tony. The POP train holds the biggest challenge and in period as well: https://www.flickr.com/photos/142767848@N08/30702727390/in/photolist-NM6vbN-GNnJw7

Hi Tony, I wasn't aware Bristol had a class 15 as I understood that they were mostly used on the Eatern Region? Bristol did have the class 28 ETH unit which is now preserved however: https://www.flickr.com/photos/12a_kingmoor_klickr/6468826775/in/photolist-aRCqQ8-ouFtbP-S3b6cM-dAyrwh-91HRFq-W3qvsG-aDDBTx-v42bUf-bxQbEx-ryq873-odjAPb-9J95RY-njJ68Y-rtyEsD-pR1vZq-nw9qxD-nqmt2z-Ui9Rmr-cEfhuN-9HsoZw-pHUkVh-ohLqc3-snXDKX-DeSR8-s669R6-9rm4dc-bmiFD1-788yX3-sacL6x-s9TPh7-66zxUW-BVUQg5-dveKaS-kELzdR-WNBGhk-pEgTD7-mCLG7o-W6TRia-kEP9Cw-9nyRqq-Rn5MC7-kyGgeh-e6JvbJ-g37vGz-5LEaLB-jihguK-kyasoU-hNM2cb-bmePWf-u96Hr1 Thanks

Thanks Alan, I think a 25 and 2 wagons should fit. I am hoping that the reverse curve when propelling from the headshunt into the 3rd siding doesn't cause problems with buffer locking although as most moves will be with an 08 this should be minimised. Looking at pictures the ballast was very fine and reasonably contaminated, (probably with a good load of Ash thrown in) so will definitely be using N gauge ballast which will help disguise the slip.

As it has got a bit too cold in the garage and feeling a little under the weather, I plumbed for working on the layout in the warm and tonight got the track down. I used code 75 insulated rail joiners to join the points to the adjoining track and diamond crossing, the gaps in the sleepers will be filled with spare sleepers later. I cut down the diamond crossing by 4 sleepers on each end to try and minimise the visual impact of the narrower sleeper spacing. For the insulating gaps in the sidings cuts were made in the rail to avoid the use of insulating joiners, the gap will be disguised by cosmetic C&L rail joiners. I had one drama in that the feed wire to one of the frogs on a new point came off and was an absolute pain to resolder, partly due to the small size of the frog.I got there in the end and all in all much quicker than if I had built the track from scratch if a little less rewarding. With the track down I wanted to recheck the siding lengths with the stock: I have run out of wire and am yet to work out the control panel solution, so that will be it for a few weeks. I am keen to have the control panel integral with the main board to simplify the wiring and also so I can use the main board as an inglenook shunting puzzle at home.

Nice work. 8 wheel Ford D Series were only a conversion from a 6 wheel so very rare... https://www.flickr.com/photos/57633672@N07/7533976118/in/photolist-ctKABY-daoWeP-azv2pM-dZDdpn-dHzj9P-qZx6t5-5gfqpA-o6zZ85-w1Gb1R-eJZQQq-amuw4i-7UELm3-aFhQX3-q7SLFj-pWJL8T-bkEiZ9-bcAz5F-mCXZFa-e6mc8m-aeTUQs-6wq3zY-g9kQKc-bc3jS8-dpoY6n-dk19Y7-eXEWi7-ZZZYgh-bL5ioT-HPNLfA-dvkjbu-8jpPmQ-9jdwwS-ZLD9nJ-jdktTW-6kkG5g-ocU67C-c9Bow9-9oVopW-5rY5iZ-khtJ6X-azyeU1-pjKww2-2bUeXG-azyyvj-bEhm7k-jGtJPV-dZN8yH-8SUhvJ-a2NTaR-dVVUT7

Aah I also went the Cathedral school, by the time I went there the only smoke in those goods sheds were from pupils nipping out for a fag in lunchtime. We probably had a couple of the same teachers Roger Burgess is one name that was there a very long time..

Nice little layout, will follow with interest.

I managed to grab a few hours this afternoon to do some work on the layout and now having mapped out the track plan a bit more finally, I felt confident that I could cut some wood. As per my earlier post, the track will be modelled on the side of a gentle hill as per the real Malago Vale; to create this I had identified an area of the board to be cut away to form the back gardens of houses at the lower level. While the board is not a true open frame construction, it is my first layout where I haven't started with a completely flat baseboard top so a bit of a new experience. It is also my first baseboard not to be perfectly rectangular as I have cut the fiddle yard end at an angle so the tracks will exit the mainboard at a right angle to the edge due to the curve of the track: I intend to use some solid foam which will form the embankment between the two levels (as well as at the back of the tracks) which will be covered in plaster bandage. A frame was then made to form the lower level support, while the upper level was then mounted on another frame to provide the height difference, care being taken to avoid the point motor mountings. I have used 6mm ply for the track bed on the basis that this proved perfectly durable in the fiddle yard on Peafore Yard and is considerably lighter than some of the thicker ply or chipboard. All of the wood in the below picture (apologies for the blurry picture) will be hidden when finished as the layout will be boxed on all 4 sides. With the timber cluttering up the garage and my good lady still engrossed in her book I cracked on with the legs and wheels. All of my exhibition layouts have had wheels to speed up the setting up and exit from exhibition halls and transit time to the car. Peafore Yard was a single trip to the car and so I was determined to make PVCS the same and so followed broadly the same approach. I considered mounting the legs via hinges on the board but came back to separate legs on the basis that it worked for P4Y so why fix something that wasn't broken. In a slight deviation from P4Y I have secured the wheels to the board for 2 reasons; 1) The legs on P4Y had to be fitted exactly the right way round and were clunky to fit adding time to the take down and set up time. It also meant I couldn't pack the car quite how I wanted to. 2) The rear wheels on PVCS mean it can be moved in a more upright position on 2 wheels which will be helpful getting it in and out of the garage. Final job was to fit the diagonal stays between the boards and the legs which are essential. The legs will stow on top of the board when finished with the fiddle yard on top of that. So far so good, next area of focus is the embankment behind and in front of the track bed as well as a mock up of the road bridge which needs to go in soon. Hopefully I will get some track down before Xmas..

Buoyed by the additional reference photos and the arrival of the points today, I managed to draw out the track plan more accurately. I also experimented with adding a dead end siding accessed from the fiddle yard which will be home to the muck truck as well as potentially stabling the open wagon for the brake blocks or fuel tanker. I was initially concerned that the additional siding might make the layout a bit cramped but I think it works better so will stay: The new Peco points are a great bit of work and really show up the double slip which will get some serious work to blend in plus the mess room will be located in front of it to help hide it. At the other end I have marked out the road bridge. The real bridge is 3 lanes and part of a large one way system, the plan is the one on the layout will be a similar size and will be modelled as closely as I can Next job will be to cut out the section marked "cut" as the track will be on an embankment and get on with the baseboard building....

Totally Agree Adrian, massive thanks for posting the link, that photo is really helpful. It confirms a couple of thing I had picked up in photos: - The presence and location of the water tank which subject to space will be modelled in front of the footbridge. - The width between the carriages is closer than I thought which will help with some of the track layout. Thanks for these links Alan, again really helpful, especially the picture with the muck wagon in which has given me some ideas about squeezing in the dead end siding now I have gained a few inches on the layout width. Loads of debris etc on the ground as well so will include that in the mix as well. A couple of telegraph poles will appear, I would like to include the wires but will probably change the routing so they don't get in the way, especially with the 3 links still being used on the stock. I am away from home at the moment so no pics but on the actual layout itself some progress has been made with details including the ETH control boxes seen in the middle of the overhead shot by the footbridge. I have also looked around the and the backs of the Dapol c085 semi detached houses are remarkable similar to those on the embankment so I have purchased one and will be cutting it down to make it a low relief version before some major detailing.

Glad these are finally here, I can make some progress with the new layout. They look a nice bit of kit but with some obvious compromises. I really can't see how they can be used with dead frogs unless they are in a mainline situation, the distance looks like a Hornby Pug or Sentinel could run over them. With a bit of weathering and careful ballasting they will look great.

It will be fixed. The model used for the earlier glass headcode design has a removable headcode panel however

Thanks Martyn, they do appear to be an overlooked prototype probably due to the space they take up.

Thanks Peter.

Hi Alan, Apologies I missed your post. I think the open wagon is the one Rivercider referred to in his post for transport of brake blocks, I wouldn't fancy changing a set at MV though, there was no covered space at all. The name is a merger of Malago Vale and Parsons Street which was the station by the Carriage sidings. Just need the points to arrive (will be any day) and I can mark the board up properly as I went to B&Q and got the timber yesterday. The HST is one idea, I do fancy doing the APT POP train which is prototypical for appearing at Malago Vale, and I have been following the thread elsewhere.

This was mentioned a few pages earlier, the power car approach was considered then moved away from. Also distributed power = more seats in the same train length as well.

Thanks. I know what you mean about small yards, I have had great fun with the other 2 layouts. I think one of the biggest reservations I had about doing this layout was potential lack of shunting opportunities, but hopefully with the operations we have planned plus the other wagon movements that Rivercider mentioned above it should provide enough movement and operator interest.

Unlikely Geoff, the Land Rover is higher priority, Calne 2020 is a better bet

This weekend should see Peafore Yard venture off to its new home in Cornwall so I thought I would post some pictures of some of the last trains to run on Peafore Yard as the stock is not included in the sale. I am not sure if the new owner (Nigel) is on RMweb but from meeting him I think it is going to a good home. Nigel wants it to run some kit built wagons on and is ideal for his home use although hasn't ruled out exhibitions in the future. Part of the sale agreement was I retained the coaches that were part of the backscene (including my much laboured MK1 BSO) and cement lorries. I also agreed to make the rearmost track on the upper level operational as Nigel wants to use this line so I had to wire this up to the control panel, thankfully an easy job to do. Here are some photos from the tests to check everything still works after poking around in the control panel: 08949 on the upper level, sporting it's new open cab door, a how to do it guide appears on my new layout thread (link later) The first loco to run on Peafore Yard was one of my class 37's, then numbered 37009 with domino headcodes but since renumbered 37029 with 0000's so it seems fitting for it to bring the curtain down on the layout in my ownership Finally 03382 pulls a cement train across the level crossing, a recreation of the photo that inspired the layout. Alan said to me as we were driving back from Peterborugh that I will probably miss Peafore Yard more than I think, as it really is a great layout to operate and I know he has enjoyed operating it at shows. I have had a lot of fun with the layout and it seems amazing to think I have only had it over 3 years but I always intended to move it on to a new home albeit it has happened 6 months earlier than I envisaged. I am pretty open about the fact that I enjoy building layouts more than operating them so I am pleased that Nigel has plans to give the layout plenty of use and will hopefully get lots of enjoyment from it. Finally I would like to thank the following people who have helped make Peafore Yard what it turned out to be: - Dave Spencer for his help with the scenics and weathering on some of the stock - Alan Forsyth - Alan has been a godsend at shows, giving me a break from operating and great fun to chat with and bounce ideas off - Kevin Redwood for the photos, guidance and working timetables etc that helped me design how the layout operate - Andy Kirkham for the use of some photos for the display board and backscene - Lastly but by no means least all who have commented on this thread and at shows, it is great to get the positive feedback of a job well done alongside the constructive comments which help improve the overall model. My next project has started and the track has been ordered, thanks for reading and hopefully the next layout will be of interest: http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/127271-parsons-vale-carriage-sidings-37114s-new-00-br-blue-layout/