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Hey there Flying Pig, if you wish to take a crack at producing the LMS "Hudson" yourself heres the plans for it below; Plus a 4-8-4 "Northern" for high speed Anglo-Scottish container trains.

Would sure like to see how you could produce these in the style you've done above with the LMS mountain type

I now some the measurements are unclear so I'll post them below

LMS 4-6-4

Driving wheel diametre: 6' 6"

bogie diametre: 3' 0"

boiler diametre front: 6' 3"

boiler diametre rear : 6' 10"

boiler length: 20' 6"

Firebox length: 10' 0"

LMS 4-8-4

Driving wheel diametre: 5' 6"

bogie diametre: 3' 0"

boiler diametre front: 6' 3"

boiler diametre rear : 6' 10"

boiler length: 20' 6"

Firebox length: 10' 0"

Another of my cut 'n'shut locos, this one is the proposed LMS 4-6-4 which I've heard being called the Admiral Class.

LMS Admiral Class 4-6-4 No.6260 Admiral Jellicoe

After viewing these unique projects I've been taking a crack at doing some cut and shut jobs of my own based on locos that were designed but never built.

This one is of a LNER 4-8-2 which I've dubbed the I class by Gresley in 1938 for the predicted heavier trains in the future albeit modified in the style of Peppercorn.

This is my interpretation of a design Bullied was working on in 1945 for an outside cylindered Q1

Im also currently working on a proposed LMS design for a 4-6-4 Hudson based off the Duchess.

We shouldn't be giving up now and heading off to get specialist small batches made or kits. True it may not be quite what we wanted to hear from Hornby or Bachmann; Bare in mind though that this poll has only really got started not that long ago. What we should be doing is gathering together all our time and energy into proving to them that there is a significant market for Pre-Grouping Scottish locos in rtr form.

Once we have the gained enough evidence to back up that there is a market. We should have a much better chance at pressing home our requests and in doing so; much like the Southern region models will open up the oppertunity of a whole range of Scottish region locos and rolling stock to complement the ones we wish for at the moment.

I wouldn't take too much from them saying that they maybe too specialist. If you consider that they've produced locos such as the Clans, which in my opinion is a specialist loco considering it is rarely mentioned when discussing the standard classes and was only a class of 10 locos. When you consider that, our hopes for Scottish region locos may not sound too far fetched. In my opinion I've always considered Bachmann as being the more specialist of the two when you look at their range of locos over the years like the V3 tank, J39, WD 2-8-0, Collet Goods, Super D, 3MT, O4 etc. I feel they are generally been more open to the lesser known and "workhorse" locos; although Hornby has shown some signs of that too like when they introduced the Thompson L1 this year.

As said earlier we represent only a small percentage of all the British Railway modellers. To get more support we should try writing to magazines such as Railway Modeller, Hornby, British Railway Modeller and putting forward our case, which should hopefully help gain more support among our fellow modellers. We still got a long to go guys but we shouldnt give up now, all this effort will pay off and we will finally be able to have Scottish region represented in rtr form.

Added my votes guys, a very good selection to choose from there. Fingers crossed this will help our case in getting rtr scottish locomotives.

19 votes in about 9 hours, at this rate this poll will definetly show how strong our request is for scottish locomotives.

Its definetly certain the 439 is our top choice with all the 0-6-0's close behind