Hippo

I've always enjoyed my visits.

Thanks to all the organisers and volunteers from over the years. I can't even begin to imagine the amount of hours that goes into organising such a large show.

Enjoy the extra time, maybe take up a hobby. I can recommend railway modelling 😉 

Owen

I'm another modeller currently not modelling at the moment but I just wanted to come on here and thank the staff and wish them well at this time.

Since getting into the hobby in the early 2000's Hattons has always been my go to and I've only ever had good experiences ordering from them, the few times I have needed to phone them to change orders etc the people I have spoken to have been excellent.

Best of luck for the future to all the staff.

Owen 

I've just had the same. I had quite a few pre-orders with them for Hornby items that have all been cancelled.

It would be nice if Hattons could give a better explanation as to why they have all been cancelled

As it is they no longer stock Bachmann, if they aren't going to stock Hornby either.... 

Well its been a year since I updated this.

I still have it, I still use it  (play trains) and as you can see I have done a bit scenically. 

The narrow boat has gone and a rusty sunken barge has appeared. It needs some weathering but i think looks better.

More soon, hopefully sooner than next January !

1 hour ago, Graham_Muz said:

 Err what makes you think I’ve ordered one... 

 

... wrong era... 

 

... funny tank arrangement... 

 

... defiantly the wrong railway company ... 

 

...who you think I am... 

 

Yeah I didn't order one either........ I ordered 2  and can't wait to get my hands on them.

I'm sure Kernow will get them out to me as soon as possible, but there is no rush.

Owen

According to the  Appleby Frodingham Railway on Facebook, KR models have announced they ARE making the Hunslet BO BO.

https://www.facebook.com/AFrailway

Owen

Apologies, another and me post.

Great choice. I really wish you both all the best and look forward to placing my pre-order.

Thanks

Owen

Have you seen the Sphere ones

I have one. Its not cheap but is very well made.

https://www.sphereproducts.co.uk/#!/SPHERE-Cube-Workcase/p/76171269/category=16709062

Mine has also arrived. I look forward to building it

On 08/01/2020 at 22:46, Ruston said:

That one is technically not a 48DS. It is a 44/48HP, in Ruston's classification scheme and pre-dates the 48DS. The cab and cab steps are different, and the wheel diameter was 3 ins. smaller than the 48DS. It's most probably W/n 186032, ex-works 3/4/1937, delivered new to Wiltshire United Dairies at Chard. That shot is interesting as I have a works photo of it on test in Lincoln and in a cream-coloured livery, with the Wilstshire United Dairies logo on the cab. It's clearly no longer in that livery here but it does appear to be lined. I seem to remember someone saying that it wasn't actually delivered in the cream livery, so perhaps that's true and it was repainted in the standard lined green before delivery.

 

If anyone can design and produce cab front, rear and sides, plus step etches it would be a nice and easy conversion of the Hornby 48DS (I'm sure we can ignore the slight difference in wheel diameter). I measured one up some years ago, and also have a drawing, if anyone is interested in producing these parts.

Sounds like a job for Planet industrial's   

@James Hilton

Might be worth checking out page 24 of the Hornby 48ds thread.

The below was posted by Ruston about a picture Karhedron posted.

Sounds ideal for a Planet industrial kit.

"That one is technically not a 48DS. It is a 44/48HP, in Ruston's classification scheme and pre-dates the 48DS. The cab and cab steps are different, and the wheel diameter was 3 ins. smaller than the 48DS. It's most probably W/n 186032, ex-works 3/4/1937, delivered new to Wiltshire United Dairies at Chard. That shot is interesting as I have a works photo of it on test in Lincoln and in a cream-coloured livery, with the Wilstshire United Dairies logo on the cab. It's clearly no longer in that livery here but it does appear to be lined. I seem to remember someone saying that it wasn't actually delivered in the cream livery, so perhaps that's true and it was repainted in the standard lined green before delivery.

If anyone can design and produce cab front, rear and sides, plus step etches it would be a nice and easy conversion of the Hornby 48DS (I'm sure we can ignore the slight difference in wheel diameter). I measured one up some years ago, and also have a drawing, if anyone is interested in producing these parts."

On 11/01/2020 at 12:38, Caledonian said:

According to Railway Modeller, that young Mr Kohler from Hornby mentioned at the press launch that one of their Chinese factories had closed and this was why a number of locos [including Pecketts] had been delayed.

 

Two of them are still in the 2020 catalogue, along with the three shiny new ones:

 

R3640 - Willans and Robinson No. 882/1902    

R3702 - Tytherington Stone Co, 'Daphne'   

 

Four of them aint:

 

R3679 - Port of London Authority, No. 74    

R3680 - Charity Colliery, 'Forest No. 1'    

R3761 - Earl of Dudley's Round Oak Works (Open Back Cab), 'Lady Edith'    

R3703 - S&KLR, (Open Back Cab), 'Bear'    

 

Do we have any indication as to whether they might still slip through, or whether they might be held back for next year?

According to Hornbys website 

R3640 -  Willans and Robinson No. 882/1902    Due Summer 2020, announced October 2017 

R3679 - Port of London Authority, No. 74    Due Summer 2020, announced May 2018

R3680 -  Charity Colliery, 'Forest No. 1'    Due Winter 2019-2020, announced May 2018

R3761 - Earl of Dudley's Round Oak Works (Open Back Cab), 'Lady Edith'    Due Winter 2019-2020, announced Jan 2019

R3702 - Tytherington Stone Co, 'Daphne'   Due Winter 2019-2020, announced Jan 2019

R3703 - S&KLR, (Open Back Cab), 'Bear'    Due Winter 2019-2020, announced Jan 2019

Perhaps the 4 that aren't in the catalogue are expected shortly so they left them out ?

Thanks

5 hours ago, sb67 said:

Nice layout Hippo, the Ruston looks very much at home there.  What are the plugs you've used to connect the controllers to the layout, I've been using chocolate block connectors and I'm always looking for alternatives.

Only cheap ones I got off Ebay. 

Ebay clicky

Just means if I want to build other layouts and swap between them its easy

A little Peckett update 

3 new ones announced in the 2020 Range. 

R3825 - Peckett 614, Centenary Year Limited Edition (limited to 2000 pieces!!!! I wonder how many are in a normal run)

R3868 - Crawshay Brothers, 490/1890 

R3869 - Dowlais Ironworks, 33 'Lady Cornelia' 

There are also 6 still out standing from previous announcements

R3640 -  Willans and Robinson No. 882/1902    Due Summer 2020, announced October 2017 

R3679 - Port of London Authority, No. 74    Due Summer 2020, announced May 2018

R3680 -  Charity Colliery, 'Forest No. 1'    Due Winter 2019-2020, announced May 2018

R3761 - Earl of Dudley's Round Oak Works (Open Back Cab), 'Lady Edith'    Due Winter 2019-2020, announced Jan 2019

R3702 - Tytherington Stone Co, 'Daphne'   Due Winter 2019-2020, announced Jan 2019

R3703 - S&KLR, (Open Back Cab), 'Bear'    Due Winter 2019-2020, announced Jan 2019

These 9 join the 6 already delivered.

R3686 - Huntley & Palmers, Peckett W4 Works Freight Pack, Delivered in 2019

R3550 - 883 in Lilleshall Co, Delivered in 2018

R3615 - WORKS LIVERY NO.560/1893, Delivered in 2018

R3427 - 563 'Dodo', Delivered 2017

R3428 - 11 in Manchester Ship Canal green, Delivered in 2017

R3429 - No.832/1900 Huntley & Palmers, Delviered in 2017

So finally some progress. This has been untouched for ages.

I did decide to go with the kick back siding and I was right to be worried it does look a little track heavy but I'm hoping by the time I get some buildings and ground covering on there it won't be too bad.

The new rustons are great and the perfect size.

Control is from a cheap Bachmann controller and the points are powered by an old Farish controller. Its over wired really. Every thing has its own feed and all the points are electrofog and modified electrically. 

I have just had an e-mail through from Rails of Sheffield saying they are to make a OO gauge model of 18000 in conjunction with Heljan

There will be 3 variants

BR Gloss Black with Silver Trim (1949-56 Condition)

BR lined green with orange/black waistband lining (1956-57 condition) and early BR crest

BR lined green with orange waistband lining (1957-60 condition) and late BR crest

Priced at £199.99 Each a £30 deposit is required with pre-orders

They say 'The design and CAD work is complete and tooling is well underway. First tooling samples are expected to be ready in early-2020, followed by decorated samples in mid-year and production towards the end of next year'

This months Model Rail dropped through the door yesterday and the new big announcement is with Heljan they are tooling a Class 11.

Looks like 14 different liveries including pre-war, post-war, Longmoor and industrial.

They are also doing 5 class 12's which will include detail differences like the Bulleid 'Boxpok' wheels.

More info in Model Rail 263 (August).

I'm sure Chris @dibber25 will be along soon to tell us more.

I'm definately interested in the ICI and NCB loco's

18 minutes ago, Nigelcliffe said:

 

The RT Models chassis fits the DJM loco, with a High Level gearbox (one of the ones with a flexible link to the final drive gear).  To get a good fit, the raised ridges inside the bottom of the boiler moulding where the DJ motor is screwed are removed, and the opening in the firebox mouldings need enlarging.  End result is a chassis which can be threaded onto the footplate+boiler mouldings.  Add some tie-downs to keep the motor in position (so it doesn't rotate around the driven axle) and there is a lot of spare room left inside the boiler/tanks for lead, DCC sound chip, speaker, stay-alive unit.   I'm helping someone construct one at the moment in EM (beam compensation, HighLevel hornblocks), and we've got it all running on the track, next step is a tiny bit of fettling and then adding the sound/electronics stuff.

 

If wanting to take this model building topic further, suggest spinning out a new thread.  (Or a moderator moving this and followups to a new thread somewhere).

 

- Nigel

Hi Nigel. Could you start a new thread on this if the Mod's allow. It is something I have been looking into and would be interested to see your results and what you are using for wheels etc

Maybe the mods could unlock the DJM J94 thread and this could be discussed there.

Thanks

Owen

It could be anything.

We regularly import from Canada (plywood) and it always takes 4-5 weeks to arrive , however the 4 boxes we were due last month, MSC suddenly sent via Barcelona adding 3 1/2 weeks to the shipping time. Nothing we could do about it and not something we had been informed of before hand. It just happened.

I'm guessing when shipping containers from China lead times can stretch quite considerably.

7 minutes ago, Phil Parker said:

 

Even if true, if this is an attempt to suggest Hattons are going to rip people off, then it's not going to fly. Their website needs updating, but it was late last week when we were sure exactly what was happening. I'm sure that any orders will be refunded and the site updated ASAP.

To add to what Phil has said, as a regular buyer from Hattons, I can safely say they don't take any money from you for pre-orders until they have the itme in stock and it is ready to post. The same goes for Rails and Kernow.

Thanks

2 NCB loco's.. Result.. Now where is my wallet

19 minutes ago, Oldddudders said:

I believe there are members who might share your view of the 58xx bodyshell but have found the chassis to be a very poor performer, despite trying several models. One senior member has been talking of putting a kit chassis underneath instead. Similarly disappointed comments have been made about O2 and 0298 chassis, although mine run reasonably well. Perhaps tolerances in manufacture had slipped, making for chancy purchase. Good 'uns and bad 'uns. Not unique to DJM.

Its the same with the 18" Austerity. I have quite a few, a couple run really well the others are average. They do look the part and I would have bought more if the next batch of NCB and MSC ones had ever turned up.

Well I'm finally at a stage to post some pics on here, what you see represents about a years worth of work (i don't work quickly).

I plan on finishing it with Scalescenes buildings around the edge.

 I plan on putting a building either side of the fiddle yard exit to hide it.

What I don't know is whether or not to add a kick back siding to add a bit of operational interest. What I worry is its going to make it very track heavy.

So originally it was going to be like this 

But now I am thinking of adding the kick back siding going into a building. Like this

I would be interested in any ones thoughts on it.

From what I have read else where, I am not sure Dave can recover the tooling.

I have 4 on pre-order that were annouced in August 17. (3x NCB and 1xMSC)

I think if Dave could produce them he would as i am sure he would have been hoping these would be a steady income over the coming years.

I have had an e-mail from Ultrascale this morning to let me know they had reached the minimum to produce anther run of EM gauge wheel sets for the chain drive Sentinel

Quote

Dear Customer,

The Hornby 'Sentinels' for EM gauge, have now reached the required batch 
run quantity.

As you showed interest in this item, you are getting this email to find 
out if you are still interested and would like to order this conversion. 
If you do then please let me know and I will email the 'Special order 
code' required for you to place your order. The batch run will be 
started once I have confirmed orders from all customers that showed 
interest.

Please note that this conversion is for the Hornby 'Sentinel' WITHOUT 
the outside cranks. Also it is for the EM version ONLY and that this 
will be the last batch run of this conversion. Once this batch is done 
no more will be produced

In case any one is interested, now is the time to contact them

Thanks

Owen