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Hi Peter,

I remember seeing on here a thread about the Regional History series which listed all the titles; I think the Forgotten Railways series also got covered which might help your search.

Richard

I too have been privileged to operate Broad Aston on a number of occasions and can equally vouch for its ability to maintain operation interest. It has always looked good but equally important it is fun! I was even once allowed running rights and LNER pacifics did make it to Broad Aston! Just! one struggling on the slope into the terminus! Fortunately the layouts normal traction never have these problems!

It was sad to hear earlier this month the passing of HWB who certainly provided much support and inspiration in my formative years.

I reached for my copy of Illustrated History of NER locomotives by Ken Hoole as a first port of call. He included a photograph of a Londonderry tank (out of interest) which is number 1113 at North Blyth shed. It is not yours in your photograph but looks very similar in appearance with that distinctive dome and cab with very square side tanks. He comments in the caption that 1113 was built by Londonderry company at its Seaham Harbour Engine Works in 18889 and originally numbered 2. He states it was one of three of this wheel arrangement used on the Londonderry passenger services between Seaham and Sunderland.

The Lima HST first appeared in summer of 1982 as I  distinctly remember showing it to friends in Derby which will have been when I worked there. I bought the set which had two power cars and two coaches. I am pretty sure that the Class 20 was summer 1984 as I was working at York and can remember testing my green one on a York model railway club layout. My first Lima model was the J50 which I got whilst at school so that will have been the mid late 70s (1976?)

Well done! Great to see something running after the dead short wobble Saturday afternoon. Roll on next weekend!!!!

Yes - in reality on some sheds not a great lot happens....... it is the fine line between reality and boredom - I can stand and examine a layout such as this for a while if the attention to detail is quality.

 

Most train servicing depots which I have been involved, not a lot happens during daylight as all the stock is out running trains and so they do look boring.

Where they come into they own is overnight where there is never a dull moment. Some of them will fuel, service, clean up to 20 mainline sets a night in a period of 6 to 8 hours. Trust me you do not stop with constant movement throughout the night. And then if there are problems, there will be shunts and reformations of the sets. It was always a satisfying as the sun was rising to stand and watch the trains being preped and realising what you and your team and actually achieved overnight!

Glenn and Graham through Aberdeen Kirkhall have tried to give a flavour of what a real modern train servicing depot is like. The attention to detail is fantastic but the operating sequence is quite a challenge (just like the real thing!) and it is a fantastic layout to watch. Oh and with DCC it is possible to do some "stunts" which you cann't do with dc. The obvious is the train engine following the stock down the arrival road once released but also to have the morning departures queuing at the departure signal; the next one moving up as the one in front is moving off just like the real thing.

If you get a chance to see it in the flesh do come and have a look; also come and chat to the operators and find out what it is really about.

Richard

Let's not county our chickens....One retailer assured me that Blue Peter would be available the weekend before Xmas.......last year. Whilst I appreciate Dave's comments, the delivery of this model has been a tad frustrating! I will now not believe it is here until it is in my hot sticky mits......

Actually Richard there is an atmospheric shot of two HSTs in the dark at Aberdeen Kirkhill.

 

Publish date will be April 2011. I can tell you all now seeing as Steve Flint has stated this date in the Annual.

Sorry Graham. New job has me involved with Clayhills and easily get confused........

At Warley picked up a copy of the new Railway Modeller Annual 2011. One of the articles is about forthcoming attractions in 2011 to appear in the Railway Modeller.......and in there is an atmospheric shot of two HSTs in the dark at Aberdeen Clayhills.

Thanks! Much appreciated, but still not used to it!

 

Regarding sanding facilities, I'm not too sure what you're referring to here, but I'm assuming it's the facility for refilling the locomotive sandboxes for improved adhesion? If so, then the answer is quite simple: Nothing! There weren't that many diesel locos on BR that had sanding equipment fitted - and still fewer on which it actually worked!! Class 47s were never fitted with sanding in BR days and were ony fitted post-privatisation by Freightliner. HSTs have never been fitted. Smaller locos of Classes 26 & 37 (in our case) were fitted, but to fill them, BR resorted to a high tech solution: a watering can! Sand was stored as it was delivered in polythene bags and then the cans were filled from these as required; that way the sand stayed reasonably dry - so long as the cans were only used to carry sand, not oil or coolant etc......

 

More modern tram/light rail vehicle depots do now have automated sand-filling systems, but you never saw any such sophistication under BR. But their system, crude though it was, worked.

 

You wouldn't have seen much, if any evidence of it at a depot such as Kirkhill though.

 

As a foot-note, more modern locos do now make extensive use of sand and also many DMUs/EMUs are fitted with sanders too now, but in the latter case it is there to provide adhesion during braking for disc-braked stock. Lots of sand gets used at this time of year, during leaf-fall.

 

Hope this helps.

Had been thinking of the reply all day!

I think if you were going to model the sand then it would be a pallet with the bags piled up on top; yes from what I remember at the North East Depots we stored it outside. We did go through a lot as we had Class 56s at the time and the sanders had to work on them! However I suspect Clayhills would not have had sand as it was (is?) a coaching stock depot with the fuelling facility put in for HSTs (which of course did not need sand). Certainly as you said there never was any special sand drying facilities on a "modern" diesel depot not even those which had previously been steam sheds like Gateshead and Haymarket. Whilst you fuel the odd loco do we do a fuel point exam....or do we expect that to be done at a loco depot later in the day??

A few years after the date for Clayhills we got lots of sand at Heaton for the Class 91s but that was still supplied bagged! And we went through a lot as they would keep dumping it all in the yard as the sanders were automatic ones!

Sorry then started thinking about No 4 & 5 exams as I don't think we put any stock in the shed during the day.....As that something else for Graham to think of!

Richard

Congratulations to Glenn and Graham for winning another competition

 

Best Layout voted by the LYDCC members

Aberdeen Kirkhill

 

Mike

Yes I did say earlier I expected them to get many more awards; it is great a layout and certainly not boring!!

Well done again guys!

Richard

Saw one (525) at Wirksworth Model Railway Exhibition on Sherwood Models stand. Not able to get a good look at it as it was at the back of the stand and you cann't see much through the packaging!

Interestingly they seem to have missed the mags for review as they always tried to fly some across for earlier review before release.

So hopefully not too long to wait for 532!

Richard

.The exhibition at Mickleover went very well with no 47/7 failures (but two Inverness 47 failures instead - bit of luck we own seven Inverness duffs!). Much to our surprise we were awarded best layout, I'm still not used to this kind of praise.

 

Steve Flint from Railway Modeller came over to Glenn's on Saturday to photograph the layout. I'm not sure how much I'm allowed to say so I'll just state that it should feature in the magazine in due course.

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As I said to you and Glenn on that Sunday that award was richly deserved and I am sure you will get many more over the coming years.

Really well done!!!

Cann't wait to see the photos and the article in the Mag in the future.

Richard

Agreed it is giving us more time to save for them but this on/off delivery schedule is becoming a tad annoying...... (Got that L1 with late crest to save for as well!)

Looks like it has all changed again on the Bachmann website!! All the A2's apart from Blue Peter are shown in the 60 day delivery window but Blue Peter has vanished! Further digging on the website shows the A2s with a Oct/Nov delivery and Blue Peter for Nov/Dec! All very strange! Perhaps as someone suggested earlier Blue Peter is being held back for Warley.

Brian,

Firstly - that's a nice job you've done on the Deltic - by the way I have a question - you know the photo above showing the Deltic with etched DJH headcode panels - do you or anyone else know where you can buy such 'plated over' headcode panels in 7mm? without having to buy a whole DJH kit!. I'm sure someone must do them but I never seem to see them advertised anywhere - or are they in the MMP loco details set? - although that is £30+?????

Hi,

Have you tried contacting DJH direct? A long time ago I managed to buy an etch from their A1 kit in OO which had some parts I needed for another model. Worth asking if they will supply separately; you may have to buy a complete part of etch with bits you may not want but at least it is not a complete kit

Richard

Well done Brian; now you have got it finished it definately looks the part. As you said it could possibly due for a bit of subtle weathering around the underframe.

As I said previously it looks like a Deltic and that is most of the battle!

Richard

This afternoon the Rails website is suggesting that the first models are due this month; different to the list on the Hornby website. Stationmaster's photos does suggest that the first indeed can not be far away.

There is only one word to descibe this .....WOW!

For me it looks like a Deltic (especially those pictures of a couple of days ago before the side windows went in and the one immediately above). Certainly the nose looks right (it should slope backwards). Saw Royal Scots Grey at Doncaster on the way home this afternoon (did not get a chance of a photo and there was a lighting mast in the way) but this model compares well with this.

Well done Brian. Cann't wait to getting a chance to see the model in the flesh at Warley.

Richard

Off the top of my head (ie: I can't find the right Deltic book at the moment!) I think the ETH conversions were done in 1971, by which time all 22 U-Boats had been painted blue for about two years or so... thus you can run them in pre-tops blue with or without the ETH gubbins.

 

Found my copy of Brian Webb's bbok. First Deltic converted to ETH as experiment was D9007 in late 1966. However fleet fitment did not start until September/October 1970 with conversion of the complete fleet complete by Summer 1971. So suspect all were blue by this time. Fitting was done in a bit of panic by all accounts as Mark IID stock was planned to be introduced in September 1970 and needed ETH locos to work properly.

 

Hope that helps.

 

Richard

Well done! Just found this and been bowled over with the photos of the test model. WOW!!!!!

Like others think I will have to save up and find a reason of a 7mm model amongst a 4mm collection! (Probably don't need one with a model of that quality!)

Excellent

Interesentingly they have dropped Great Central off the radar.... Didn't they do it a couple of years ago?

As for Blue Peter release like you all mine's on order but with a 10 month "imminent" release I am not counting my chickens....

Thanks for the link: I have made it a favourite as well.

Briiliant set of photos of a brilliant layout!

I think my money is on that they have found a problem.......

You aright it has gone along with the other A2's which were listed as coming soon.

If it is any consolation there appears to have been a mega prune gone on with the "Coming in 60 days list" as the O4s (apart from one) and the Class 105s (apart from one) have also disappeared!

The conspiracy theorists will have a field day.........