jessy1692 Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 (edited) Oddly enough the Janus seems to be one of the better industrial survivors. Considering how long it is since any were built and the ready availability of ex-BR shunters cheaply there seem to be a remarkable number still running. Perhaps it isn't quite as "specialist" as might be thought- and it can work a siding on any layout set in the late fifties, sixties, seventies, eighties, nineties, noughties or this current decade. That gives a loco with a span approaching sixty years. Les Cheers Les, the Janus was undoubtedly a success but Taurus less so, only trialled for a bit on BR and the broken up by the mid sixties although another one one made for Spain bizzarely... And 2 Idus's which apparantly had hydraulic transmissions. I think they would be a good model but perhaps just a little too specialist i fear after doing a quick google https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yorkshire_Engine_Company_Taurus_and_Indus Edited January 27, 2017 by jessy1692 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rope runner Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 Didnt they say that about Heljans dinosaur diesel collection ? You just never know these days, admitedly it is a very specialist loco with a limited market but if the Janus sells well i wouldnt be surprised. I will no doubt take the plunge one day soon into etched kits and im sure a Taurus will be on my list. Who is "they"? We're not talking about a mainline loco which could be seen at a number of locations, which was famed as a prototype for a hugely popular design, and for which there is much photographic evidence. In contrast, the Yorkshire Engine Company "Taurus" design was a one-off. It was on trial with BR (not owned by them), and wore a single plain green livery its entire life. A 4mm RTR Taurus is not financially viable for any manufacturer, and it's a sure thing that it'll only ever be available in kit form. Paul A. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold adb968008 Posted January 29, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 29, 2017 (edited) All this talk about Taurus, made me dig out a box I've had for a few years. This little bull needs a paint job that I probably cannot do to give it justice, so I've been in dilemma about keeping it or selling it. (Don't know of anyone who does paint jobs). So it's been sitting on the shelf, but it's nice indeed I got to see the real thing in Madrid last year. Solid little thing, buffer beam is 1.5mm thick brass. Edited January 29, 2017 by adb968008 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewartingram Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 I'd love a Taurus. I saw it at Cambridge on a freight, from the school physics lab. My mate was in a different classroom and missed it. However his bedroom overlooked the diesel depot. He got up a day or two later, looked out of the window, and saw a centre cab diesel through the (frosted?) glass panes of the shed. On the way to school he called in and asked if he could see Taurus. .....He was very deflated when the helpful Foreman, somewhat puzzled as to what he was on about, took him into the shed to see 2x 03 shunters back to back.... Stewart 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Y Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 I've just had an update from Golden Valley on the wagon packs to go with the Janus. We received from Oxford Diecast the latest livery samples for the PO wagons which are being issued as companions for the Janus 0-6-0 shunter. The first Janus and matching wagon is in production at the moment by the way. So, please see the attached pictures which are the four liveries – each will release at the same time as the loco. As a reminder the range is as follows: Golden Valley Hobbies products GV2012 ## NCB Janus 0-6-0 Diesel £89.99 GV2012XS ## NCB Janus 0-6-0 Diesel DCC Sound Fitted £199.99 GV2013 ## British Steel No5 Janus 0-6-0 Diesel Ltd Edn £99.99 GV2013XS ## British Steel No5 Janus 0-6-0 Diesel DCC Sound Fitted £199.99 GV2014 ## BP Janus 0-6-0 Diesel Loco £89.99 GV2014XS ## BP Janus 0-6-0 Diesel Loco DCC Sound Fitted £199.99 GV2015 ## Port of London No201 Janus 0-6-0 Diesel £89.99 GV2015XS ## Port of London No201 Janus 0-6-0 Diesel DCC Sound Fitted £199.99 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Captain Kernow Posted January 30, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 30, 2017 Pity the S&D didn't survive long enough for these to have double-headed the Pines Express. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rembrow Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 The NCB Janus and NCB 3 pack wagons must have been delayed in production by CNY, as Golden Valley had advertised them as a January release in the model press adverts in February magazines. That was the first firm date I'd seen. Hopefully be here in Feb Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les1952 Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 (edited) Another hit for the wallet. Hopefully the NCB wagons (and accompanying Janus) will arrive in time for No Place's second outing in June. They won't be here in time for Sileby in 3 weeks time. People will have to admire Pecketts, J94s and some brass gems instead. Does anyone know if there are coal loads available o to fit Oxford wagons? Les Edited February 1, 2017 by Les1952 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruston Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 (edited) I don't think much to those wagon liveries. I suspect that the British Steel one is entirely fictitious and the others are suspect, except for maybe the PLA one, athough I am willing to be proved wrong on all counts. The NCB one would be more useful if it was black, or dark grey but brown? I don't think I've ever seen NCB wagons in brown. Shades of red in Scotland and the North East of England but never brown. The BP one looks convincing as a PO wagon but if it is real I don't think you'd have found them coupled to a Janus as they look like something from the pre-pooling and nationalisation era. These liveries look like they belong in a train with a Prime Pork van. #Must try harder Edited February 7, 2017 by Ruston Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremyC Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 (edited) I don't think much to those wagon liveries. I suspect that the British Steel one is entirely fictitious and the others are suspect, except for maybe the PLA one, athough I am willing to be proved wrong on all counts. The NCB one would be more useful if it was black, or dark grey but brown? I don't think I've ever seen NCB wagons in brown. Shades of red in Scotland and the North East of England but never brown. The BP one looks convincing as a PO wagon but if it is real I don't think you'd have found them coupled to a Janus as they look like something from the pre-pooling and nationalisation era. These liveries look like they belong in a train with a Prime Pork van. #Must try harder On my computer the NCB wagons look as if they could be a dull red rather than brown, so I think I'll wait and see them 'in the flesh' before making any judgement. For comparison here is a photo of a NCB internal user wagon at Niddrie Landsale Yard, Edinburgh in 1971. Jeremy Edited February 7, 2017 by JeremyC 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Saunders Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 The NCB livery looks similar to that used on the Wemyss system and the BSC one appears to have been inspired by BSC Workington! see attached link! Mark Saunders https://www.bing.com/images/search?view=detailV2&ccid=E9i5%2bLqa&id=584B868433790384961ADB66CA096CFF4DA5ADF8&q=workington+steelworks+photographs&simid=608005029295489136&selectedIndex=71&ajaxhist=0 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigherb Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 The NCB one would be more useful if it was black, or dark grey but brown? I don't think I've ever seen NCB wagons in brown. Shades of red in Scotland and the North East of England but never brown. Looks close enough to me. From the Rufford branch website Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porcy Mane Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 On my computer the NCB wagons look as if they could be a dull red rather than brown, so I think I'll wait and see them 'in the flesh' before making any judgement. For comparison here is a photo of a NCB internal user wagon at Niddrie Landsale Yard, Edinburgh in 1971. B056.jpg Jeremy Not that's it's much help but in the NCB North Eastern Area the red colour was officially known as Indian Red. I saw this wagon being delivered from overhaul freshly painted with a rake of it's brethren in 1976. It was shining like the proverbial Sh*thouse door. I still have a couple of the wagon delivery labels. The paint was an exact match for Holts Dupli-Colour red Oxide primer. I compared it. Yes I was barmy back then too. 1981-03-08 Hunslet 0.6.0 NCB North East Area 2404-35, East Hetton Colliery by John Carter, on Flickr P 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Q663368 Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 Not that's it's much help but in the NCB North Eastern Area the red colour was officially known as Indian Red. I saw this wagon being delivered from overhaul freshly painted with a rake of it's brethren in 1976. It was shining like the proverbial Sh*thouse door. I still have a couple of the wagon delivery labels. The paint was an exact match for Holts Dupli-Colour red Oxide primer. I compared it. Yes I was barmy back then too. 1981-03-08 Hunslet 0.6.0 NCB North East Area 2404-35, East Hetton Colliery by John Carter, on Flickr P Nice analogy. Regards Alan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmrspaul Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 The NCB livery looks similar to that used on the Wemyss system and the BSC one appears to have been inspired by BSC Workington! see attached link! Mark Saunders https://www.bing.com/images/search?view=detailV2&ccid=E9i5%2bLqa&id=584B868433790384961ADB66CA096CFF4DA5ADF8&q=workington+steelworks+photographs&simid=608005029295489136&selectedIndex=71&ajaxhist=0 I agree not much wrong with the NCB colour; I have plenty that are similar. The BSC is Scunthorpe, so more likely inspired by http://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/scunthorpebsccorus/e6e133e1a Paul 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porcy Mane Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 (edited) Although the colours look slightly over saturated (particularly the reds & yellows) on my monitor and colour temperature of objects is notoriously difficult to judge, David Ford posted this image up on his Flickr site recently. https://flic.kr/p/QBLT9S Taking your monitor calibration into account you could look up the various shades of British Standard Colour comparators that are now available on Line. eg. http://www.e-paint.co.uk/Colour_alternatives.asp?cRange=BS%20Other&cRef=BS%20448&metallic2=False&cDescription=Deep%20Indian%20red P Edited February 9, 2017 by Porcy Mane 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Michael Edge Posted February 9, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 9, 2017 All this talk about Taurus, made me dig out a box I've had for a few years. This little bull needs a paint job that I probably cannot do to give it justice, so I've been in dilemma about keeping it or selling it. (Don't know of anyone who does paint jobs). So it's been sitting on the shelf, but it's nice indeed I got to see the real thing in Madrid last year. Solid little thing, buffer beam is 1.5mm thick brass. That looks nice, we do a kit for the Spanish version as well in HO 1:87 It was very similar but wider to suit 5'6" gauge. The Spanish loco incorporated some parts from the UK one but is reported to have had its transmission replaced by the type found in the Indus 0-8-0. If I ever get to Madrid I'll have a look underneath. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold adb968008 Posted February 9, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 9, 2017 (edited) On 09/02/2017 at 17:54, Michael Edge said: That looks nice, we do a kit for the Spanish version as well in HO 1:87 IMGP6924small.jpg It was very similar but wider to suit 5'6" gauge. The Spanish loco incorporated some parts from the UK one but is reported to have had its transmission replaced by the type found in the Indus 0-8-0. If I ever get to Madrid I'll have a look underneath. It's a bit difficult to get underneath, the museum is the old station, rail connected but no where close to a pit. I dont think much moves around within the platforms, the lighting isnt the best either. (I recently acquired an NBL 0-4-0 kit, painted and finished from your range too). Looks vacuum braked to me, with no signs of air brakes... kind of limited it's usefulness i'd have thought ? Edited May 9, 2021 by adb968008 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold stovepipe Posted February 11, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 11, 2017 Some cracking photos of the diesel period at Shelton Bar, with plenty of Janus action (and others) here. I do like the green ones.. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
locoholic Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 Spot the connection here... http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-humber-38884100 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PhilJ W Posted February 12, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 12, 2017 Spot the connection here... http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-humber-38884100 But what scale is it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PenrithBeacon Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 Spot the connection here... http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-humber-38884100 Probably got to do with Roman religious practices 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porcy Mane Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 Probably got to do with Roman religious practices Better known as orgies. Whoo hoo. If you're right I'm off to Scuuny. Might even find time for a railtour of the works. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Hippo Posted February 13, 2017 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted February 13, 2017 Well that gives me a bit longer to save. Hattons have e-mailed to say between April &May now. Thanks Owen Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium ColinK Posted February 14, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 14, 2017 If you decide to repaint or weather your Janus, don't obscure the letter'J'. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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