jonhall Posted June 18, 2014 Author Share Posted June 18, 2014 I'm quite pleased to have found this photo showing the unloading area at the cement terminal without a train of wagons in the way, in fact its about perfect, as I had already decided that I was only going to make 3 segments, because we have significantly shortened the sidings. https://flic.kr/p/bmGbHq Jon 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonhall Posted July 5, 2014 Author Share Posted July 5, 2014 Inspired by the photo mentioned above, I've had the cement terminal board at home for a couple of weeks, but due to railtouring in both the UK and Belgium, I've made precious little progress, however I don't think I've posted photo's of one of the industrial units by the line, that has been painted and weathered. I've tried to use the techniques shown in one of the Humbrol youtube tutorials, but whilst its not quite what I intended, it does hide the two joints in the roof, and give the impression of separate asbestos sheets, and opaque skylights. The cement unloading shed is already getting expensive - two packs of Plastruct trussing, plus three of evergreen metal siding brings us to about £35, and I'm about to pop into London to get a handful of extra supplies from the 4d modelshop. Shame all the detail will be hidden by the roof. Jon 16 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobster Posted July 5, 2014 Share Posted July 5, 2014 Great photo's Jon, and first class work - Looking forward to more. Cheers, Bob. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonhall Posted July 5, 2014 Author Share Posted July 5, 2014 (edited) A trundle into London this afternoon and I have plastruct handrails, but still no ladders or ladder safety cages. I've added a walkway to the unloading facility, it will need some struts cantilevered out from the trusses, then a handrail to the rear in 30x30thou evergreen, however I fear I'll need a few uprights on the rail as it looks a bit odd without them. There appear to be raise-able bridges to link the walkway with the wagon awaiting unloading - presumably to allow access to the hatches I am undecided on the locations, should I have one per hatch, so that access is direct to each hatch on a PCA, or if I should have 1 per wagon, which touches down near the walkway between hatches? I think the former might be a bit more interesting. I've tacked one in place to see how I feel about it. Jon. Edited July 5, 2014 by jonhall 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparks Posted July 5, 2014 Share Posted July 5, 2014 Not online that I've found. One in the book 'Rails to Poole Harbour' and one in the Middleton Press book covering the area, plus a couple that PaulRhB of this forum helped me find, but I don't have copyright for those. A few more views would be very helpful. There was an ex-Turkish 8f partially restored at the cement terminal just after it closed, and one of the most useful shots I have is of that, with the cement silos in the background, I suspect there are more photos somewhere out there. Jon IIRC the 'PSL guide to Model Railways' has a feature on the Hamworthy branch. Can't remember exactly what's in there but there may be something of use. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonhall Posted July 7, 2014 Author Share Posted July 7, 2014 IIRC the 'PSL guide to Model Railways' has a feature on the Hamworthy branch. Can't remember exactly what's in there but there may be something of use. The branch (at the docks end) is fairly well documented, with a number of articles, it is the area just at the junction which is the black hole, which is a shame, 'cos that's what we are building. The area shown as the cement terminal is heavily compressed, and will be about 4-5 feet from the viewer due to the divergence of the lines, so it doesn't have to be that faithful to the prototype, but I would like it to be as close as practicable within the space we have, which isn't easy when I have only 5 photos. Jon 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonhall Posted August 2, 2014 Author Share Posted August 2, 2014 A bit more progress with the cement terminal at Hamworthy. the board has been at home with me for some weeks, and is starting to overstay its welcome, so I've had to make a bit of progress. The unloading shed has had the high level walkway added, and as you can see from the photo's, once the front 'screen' is in place, its all pretty much hidden. The site is rather cramped, and I even having shrunk most of the buildings we are going to been to be careful with their placement so it doesn't look a bit odd. I've also started the final building for this board, another warehouse, this time in half relief A final look at the cement unloading shed. 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobster Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 Very nice Jon - Looks great. Cheers, Bob. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonhall Posted August 3, 2014 Author Share Posted August 3, 2014 Funny how quickly those modern warehouses go up, it seems like only yesterday I was looking at the simple shell but today when I woke up this was the state of play... Jon 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonhall Posted August 7, 2014 Author Share Posted August 7, 2014 A little bit of paint later - how I wish I'd thought to not glue the window frames in... Jon 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonhall Posted August 18, 2014 Author Share Posted August 18, 2014 Hampton Court MRS meets in the Hunt Hall at Tolworth Recreation Centre on a Sunday evening, but sometimes we find ourselves pushed around the other halls if the centre has another booking for the Hunt Hall, over the summer this often means them putting us into half of the big hall next door so that they can leave a trampoline up in the Hunt for kids summer holidays, last night was one such session, and it allowed us to put all the layout up, and let google earth pass over (well we went up to the balcony and took some photos). 12 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomstaf Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 Progress looks good Jon. Is its completion in sight yet? Cheers Tom 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobster Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 Very nice Jon - I look forward to seeing this layout sometime. Cheers, Bob. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ess1uk Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 Looking good. I can tell it's Hamworthy already Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonhall Posted October 13, 2014 Author Share Posted October 13, 2014 Just been sent this fab bit of film - http://youtu.be/8VuKrVRve3k?t=12m its a great shame the helicopter breaks off before it reaches the cement terminal end. Jon 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Kazmierczak Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 Thanks for the "heads up" on this film Jon. Truly remarkable; not seen it before. Some wonderful industrial shots, as wll as more scenic ones. Looks like most was filmed in the late 1980s. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ess1uk Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 Just been sent this fab bit of film - http://youtu.be/8VuKrVRve3k?t=12m its a great shame the helicopter breaks off before it reaches the cement terminal end. Jon Is that what the sidings used to look like?Wouldn't know they are there now they are so overgrown. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob D2 Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 I think the CAA would give birth now if a chopper flew that low in and out of the lighting stanchions ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonhall Posted February 7, 2015 Author Share Posted February 7, 2015 A trip to the Stafford show to 'use up' some expiring rail vouchers allowed me to finally procure some caged-ladders, which has spurred a sudden burst of enthusiasm. Last week at the club I sunk foundations for the larger warehouse to sit in, and for the cement silo. During the week the silos have been glued to their base, the ladders attached and the walkway fitted, leaving this as the state of play I now need to work out what should be on top of the silos - there seem to be pipe runs up the front, and I'd expect some sort of distribution manifolds, but it may all have to be guesswork. I have a Walthers Medusa Cement kit that could provide either inspiration, or indeed some parts to fit, but as I'd only be using a few bits it seems a shame to break up the kit, and I don't have all that much height to play with before the structure protrudes above the top of the backscene, which would make it rather vulnerable. Jon 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonhall Posted April 8, 2015 Author Share Posted April 8, 2015 (edited) A little progress off site to report. I've been going to a local 'Makerlab' on and off since Christmas, and they have a laser cutter on loan from one of their members. Over the last few weeks we have been working our way towards a trial of brick cutting for Hamworthy's station building. First job was to get my drawing across - I had been lazy and used a 'hatch' (fill) pattern for the bricks, partly because I didn't want to draw them all the hard way, and partly becuause I was a bit worried about the cutting PC's processing power - in the end I had to 'explode' the hatch, to turn it into individual lines and this wasn't a problem. To try out the cut/etch speed and power settings required, we just used the Weymouth end of the building. this shows a range of depths of cut in some respects I'm not very happy with any of them - all but the least powerful (bottom right) have some form of pinhole through - I wonder if the laser isn't actually achieving the claimed cut speed, as it zigzags up the wall and so is burning through? The alignment between courses isn't always great and we were warned that the backlash on this machine might not allow us to do what we wanted - we also tried turning off the 'optimum path and this resulted in terrible alignment. There is also a square area to the left of the window that on all cut options does not seem as well etched as all the other areas - I can't see why - its all from the same drawing? None of the alighnment would have been good enough to make the end brickwork 'fingered' so that the side and end would interlock. Having found a set of settings that seemed to work the last thing we had time to do was a cut of the walls for the station (this is all in 2mm MDF from the 4D modelshop) needless to say the first thing I did when I got home was to stick it all together with tape Some of the alignment is even worse - the arch above these doors isn't great (although this is the non- viewer side and it will be under a canopy when installed), I suspect the sheet may have moved slightly between cutting the keystones fairly early on and coming back to do the rest - the total cut time on this was about 30 minutes. I've also given my test walls a coat of Halfords primer to see what the brickwork looks like painted. Overall I'm quite pleased, but there is still a lot to learn. Jon Edited April 12, 2015 by jonhall 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ess1uk Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 looking good for a trial run. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Jason T Posted April 10, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 10, 2015 Hi, Sorry, but that laser cutting really hasn't worked at all. I would be tempted to clad them with Slaters or suchlike as the wooden frames themselves are true and square. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lyneux Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 Jon, Don't give up on the laser cutting, I think it has massive potential (just look at what Tim Horn is doing for example). It looks like you've made a reasonable start there but (as you admit yourself) there is still a bit of a way to go (e.g. the alignment issues). It'd be good to explain some of the issues to the rest of us (who haven't tried it) so that we can understand what to avoid if we do try it! Guy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonhall Posted April 11, 2015 Author Share Posted April 11, 2015 Over on this thread http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/98072-new-to-laser-cutting-a-few-queries/Jonathan (Gt Shefford) has used his laser to produce the same end wall from my artwork, which says to me that the artwork I drew is fine - this is a first run based on two hours playing with a machine for the first time - I think we were trying too fast, and that by turning the speed down (and the power to compensate) we will get there. Jon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonhall Posted September 5, 2015 Author Share Posted September 5, 2015 Good news! The makerlab that I'm going to, that has the laser cutter, is getting a brand new one! So hopefully the alignment problems we have had should go away. www.richmondmakerlabs.uk they also have an apple press - I think making some cider might get in the way of laser cutting for a few weeks... Jon 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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