pushpull33 Posted November 10, 2016 Share Posted November 10, 2016 After building a few Loco kits there is always the problem of soldering frames, bearings etc together and keeping everything lined up and square. there are a few jigs on the market but i was looking around for something that was reasonably priced, there is nothing available. If your only building one or two loco's now and again this might be of interest to you. I have come up with this idea. I had one made and, yes it works. More information is available here. I originaly posted in my layout forum but got to thinking it might have been the wrong place https://cpineroad.blogspot.co.uk/2016/10/announcement.html 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brossard Posted November 10, 2016 Share Posted November 10, 2016 Nice workmanship. I have the Avonside system which is very good, but not cheap. One comment I would make is that I prefer straight ends for the coupling rod jig rather than tapers, but I'm sure that's subjective. John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pushpull33 Posted November 10, 2016 Author Share Posted November 10, 2016 I had thought about weather to make the pins tapered or with say, a turned one mm shank but opted for the tapper as i wasn't sure if all kits have a certain size hole in the connecting rods when you first cut them out of the etch. It wouldn't have taken much to drill the con rods out i suppose but not sure if all crankpins are the same. Thanks for the feedback brossard. Colin Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spitfire2865 Posted November 10, 2016 Share Posted November 10, 2016 I would be interested, but currently cant justify probably close to £90 on a jig. Barely can justify that much on actual kits and parts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted November 10, 2016 Share Posted November 10, 2016 .....I have come up with this idea. I had one made and, yes it works. chassis jig copy crop 1.jpg chassis jig copy crop 3.jpg More information is available here. I originaly posted in my layout forum but got to thinking it might have been the wrong place https://cpineroad.blogspot.co.uk/2016/10/announcement.html Similar idea here Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted November 10, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 10, 2016 Similar idea here Not that I'm in the market for one, being happy with my Avonside, but I would prefer metal over wood, especially where accuracy and soldering irons are concerned. Mike. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted November 10, 2016 Share Posted November 10, 2016 Not that I'm in the market for one, being happy with my Avonside, but I would prefer metal over wood, especially where accuracy and soldering irons are concerned. I don't need one either. I just linked to it, for those who like having wood. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted November 10, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 10, 2016 I don't need one either. I just linked to it, for those who like having wood. Would you care to rephrase that? Mike. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted November 10, 2016 Share Posted November 10, 2016 Would you care to rephrase that? Why? I've got a Hobby Holidays jig, but some people (e.g. Tony Wright, who has endorsed it extensively) like having wood. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
iak Posted November 10, 2016 Share Posted November 10, 2016 Oh matron....... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Daddyman Posted November 10, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 10, 2016 Why? I've got a Hobby Holidays jig, but some people (e.g. Tony Wright, who has endorsed it extensively) like having wood. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
N15class Posted November 10, 2016 Share Posted November 10, 2016 It's almost the same as the JPL jig that I have. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandy Harper Posted November 11, 2016 Share Posted November 11, 2016 I've got a Poppy's version if anyone wants it. I bought it in a moment of mental aberration as I already have a Hobby Holidays version! You can have it for the cost of the postage. First to PM me with their address gets it. Sandy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted November 11, 2016 Share Posted November 11, 2016 ....First to PM me with their address gets it. That sounds almost threatening! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pushpull33 Posted November 11, 2016 Author Share Posted November 11, 2016 Good Grief. you lot . You Post something about a chassis jig. Certain people seem to like "wood" and others "gets it" and something about "Matrons" Calm down now. It's typical though, I asked lots of people about a chassis jig other than the Hobby Holidays one ( i just can't justify the cost) and nothing, zilch then you find out about the JPL jig oh well happy days. Colin Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted November 11, 2016 Share Posted November 11, 2016 (edited) ....I asked lots of people about a chassis jig other than the Hobby Holidays one ( i just can't justify the cost) and nothing, zilch.... There are quite a few jigs - it just depends on whether you think them necessary and / or whether you want to spend money. As far as I can remember, there's: - yours (metal) - Poppy's Woodtech (wood) - JPL (metal) - Hobby Holidays (metal) - Avonside (metal) ....or London Road Models / Perseverance combined with a couple of try squares and some graph paper (poverty-spec option) The only reason why I have the Hobby Holidays one is because it turned up cheap on eBay one day and, even after coming all the way from the seller in Western Australia, it still worked out less than half the cost of buying a new one here. Edited November 11, 2016 by Horsetan 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pushpull33 Posted November 11, 2016 Author Share Posted November 11, 2016 There are quite a few jigs - it just depends on whether you think them necessary and / or whether you want to spend money. As far as I can remember, there's: - yours (metal) - Poppy's Woodtech (wood) - JPL (metal) - Hobby Holidays (metal) - Avonside (metal) ....or London Road Models / Perseverance combined with a couple of try squares and some graph paper (poverty-spec option) The only reason why I have the Hobby Holidays one is because it turned up cheap on eBay one day and, even after coming all the way from the seller in Western Australia, it still worked out less than half the cost of buying a new one here. I new about the Hobby Holidays and the Avonside jigs You got a bargain there. I'm tight. I was trying to find something simple that does the job for under 80 quid lol. Colin 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted November 11, 2016 Share Posted November 11, 2016 ...I'm tight.... I'd say most of us are. That's why the hobby's economics are what they are. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PenrithBeacon Posted November 11, 2016 Share Posted November 11, 2016 I use the Comet jig. Works fine for me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian Posted November 11, 2016 Share Posted November 11, 2016 I'm tight. I was trying to find something simple that does the job for under 80 quid lol. A few 12" lengths of silver steel is all you need - a darn sight cheaper than £80 then spend the money on other tools that you will use more often. http://www.cherryclan.com/2015/08/jinty-chassis-build/ IMHO chassis jigs are a luxury item if you have money to spare, personally there are dozens of other tools to spend my money on before I'd even consider a chassis jig. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon A Posted November 12, 2016 Share Posted November 12, 2016 A few 12" lengths of silver steel is all you need - a darn sight cheaper than £80 then spend the money on other tools that you will use more often. http://www.cherryclan.com/2015/08/jinty-chassis-build/ IMHO chassis jigs are a luxury item if you have money to spare, personally there are dozens of other tools to spend my money on before I'd even consider a chassis jig. The draw back of this very economical jig is that you cannot hang the coupling rods off the outer ends to ensure they match the wheel base of the chassis. Gordon A 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian Posted November 12, 2016 Share Posted November 12, 2016 The draw back of this very economical jig is that you cannot hang the coupling rods off the outer ends to ensure they match the wheel base of the chassis. Gordon A It's not a drawback because you don't need to do that anyway - earlier in the post I show how I set out the horn blocks in the frames with the coupling rods as guides. That is something you want to be doing before assembling the chassis. It's much easier if you do one step at a time rather than all at once on the chassis jig. Once you start putting the frames in the chassis jig you should already have set out the horn blocks at the right wheelbase. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandy Harper Posted November 12, 2016 Share Posted November 12, 2016 I've got a Poppy's version if anyone wants it. I bought it in a moment of mental aberration as I already have a Hobby Holidays version! You can have it for the cost of the postage. First to PM me with their address gets it. Sandy Sorry for the thread hi-jack. The Jig has gone to a new home in Derby. Thanks to all who responded. REgards Sandy 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pushpull33 Posted November 21, 2016 Author Share Posted November 21, 2016 (edited) We all have different ways of doing things. Any method, any way, if it works for you then it's good. This is just an idea i came up with, it works for me so thought i would have a few made. It was well received at a recent 3mm meet https://cpineroad.blogspot.co.uk/2016/10/announcement.html Edited November 21, 2016 by pushpull33 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alastairq Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 I like the idea of jigs. Anything that rigidly aligns stuff, where I wouldn't have to rely upon my eyes, is good to me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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