micknich2003 Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 'and to totaly confuse the issuie, her is a (poor) photograph of a NERly upper quadrant signal, and of which the railway had more then one. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikemeg Posted December 6, 2017 Author Share Posted December 6, 2017 (edited) 'and to totaly confuse the issuie, her is a (poor) photograph of a NERly upper quadrant signal, and of which the railway had more then one. Copy of NERly UQ Signal.jpg I like that photograph but these 'experimental' upper quadrants might not 'catch on' or is that 'catch off'? Can't see where I can use that on Hessle Haven!! Cheers Mike Edited December 6, 2017 by mikemeg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 'and to totaly confuse the issuie, her is a (poor) photograph of a NERly upper quadrant signal, and of which the railway had more then one. Copy of NERly UQ Signal.jpg The Cheshire Lines Committee did something similar with their LQ arms, the spectacles of which were also reversed to produce instant UQ ones without having to move the lamps, etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Worsdell forever Posted December 6, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 6, 2017 'and to totaly confuse the issuie, her is a (poor) photograph of a NERly upper quadrant signal, and of which the railway had more then one. Copy of NERly UQ Signal.jpg Gateshead West I presume? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
micknich2003 Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 Some interesting detail here. 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
micknich2003 Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 Another intersting "Iron Signal" and one obviously "Cut Back". 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Worsdell forever Posted December 6, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 6, 2017 Some interesting detail here. 1Up Junction signals, Bog Hall Whitby 9 September 1962.jpg My Grandad was born in one of the houses seen between the post and the ladder. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
micknich2003 Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 The NERly also had numerious "Wooden Brackets". Seen here an example once at Hessle Road Hull, an interesting combination of original arms and later UQ. As an aside, the MAS in the background never signalled a train. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
micknich2003 Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 Typical Two Doll NERly signal, I made this a good twenty five years ago, I still have it, and like the "MAS" mentioned above, it too has never signalled a train. 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
micknich2003 Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 Has I said previous, the NERly had apart from its "Iron Signals" many wooden signal brackets. Here's an "Oddball" Sallyfield Junction Up Home signals. 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 Has I said previous, the NERly had apart from its "Iron Signals" many wooden signal brackets. Here's an "Oddball" Sallyfield Junction Up Home signals. H B Signal Bridge 3.JPG The arm and spectacle design looks similar to the South Eastern Railway ones. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
micknich2003 Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 The arm and spectacle design looks similar to the South Eastern Railway ones. L&SWRly arms were identical, also the finial and certain fittings. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
micknich2003 Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 Contary to popular belief, the NERly was was not exclusivly a line of "Slotted Post" signals, or to be correct "Inside Arms". The "Central Division" used conventional, or "Outside Arms". Attached, one I made some years ago. 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
micknich2003 Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 Ex H&BRly bracket signal ex Kirkella Cutting, near Hull. Despite its origin, this signal, was for nine months NERly property. Usual mix of etches and "Home Brew".Photo, Tony Buckton. 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikemeg Posted February 20, 2018 Author Share Posted February 20, 2018 (edited) Well we've posted a few photos of the real thing and Mick has posted some photos of his signal models, so perhaps time to resume work on the last of the larger signal models for Hessle Haven, in between building the locomotives of the North Eastern, featured on another thread, elsewhere. This signal bridge stood around half a mile east of Hessle Haven, towards Hull, and was in this condition (I mean lower quadrants; not unfinished as the model is) until the early 1950's, after which it was re-equipped with upper quadrants on the same wooden dolls. As ever, with the models of these McKenzie & Holland brackets and signal bridges, the lattice bridge is scratch built using 1.0 mm brass 'L' angle and 0.8 mm x .005" nickel silver strip. The whole thing is made and assembled in a purpose built, 3-dimensonal jig, made from multiple layers of cardboard (cornflake packet card glued with PVA) and variously painted black to help locate the various pieces, and to hide the inevitable burning as the lattice girders are soldered together. This jig is made solely for this bridge. The lattice posts are an MSE product with each corner 'wrapped' in brass 0.8 mm 'L'angle, both to strengthen the post and to improve the appearance. The dolls are all made from .030" plasticard, laminated and then 'fortified' with a 0.8 mm brass rod, hidden inside the doll, to prevent (or at least to attempt to prevent) any deformation of the doll through warping or twisting. I have to confess to a certain liking for the signal installations of the old North Eastern, with their slotted posts, lower quadrant wooden arms and those amazing lattice creations from McKenzie & Holland; at one time, the largest manufacturer of signalling equipment in the world! So now to re-fit the North Eastern lamps, complete the handrail on the bridge deck and then to make the upper landings, ladders and the linkage to drive the arms. Cheers Mike Edited February 20, 2018 by mikemeg 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
micknich2003 Posted February 20, 2018 Share Posted February 20, 2018 Here is the real thing.Originaly, the bridge carried more dolls and arms. 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikemeg Posted February 20, 2018 Author Share Posted February 20, 2018 Here is the real thing.Originaly, the bridge carried more dolls and arms. 1 HESSLE HAVEN Signal Bridge.jpg Thanks Mick, as ever a cracking photograph. Not only the signal bridge but also one of the LNER's Sentinel steam railcars. Cheers Mike 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
micknich2003 Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 Here's the signalling and P Way layout of Hessle Haven, when first opened. Mike's signal bridge is shown in its original glory top left. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
micknich2003 Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 I made this one well over twenty years ago, the post is filed from brass bar plus the usual mix of D&S etches and Home Brew. The signal is Botanic Gardens (Hull NERly) Outer Home with lower Calling On arm. The "CO" is not for "Permisive Working" but to admit a train into the Up Platform with the gates across the railway. Photo' Tony Buckton. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
micknich2003 Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 I built this one many years ago for Neil Ripley's Walker Marine layout, which I think is now in America. Usual mix of D&S etches and Home Brew. Near copy of a "Iron Bracket" at Broomfleet East Yorkshire. 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium it's-er Posted March 22, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 22, 2018 I have just stumbled in this thread by chance. Goodness, what a fascinating source of information! And what wonderful models, Mike and Yardman - amazing. You have much more patience than I for signal making! And wonderful photographs too! What more could one ask, other than to hope this thread continues to be added to! John Storey Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
micknich2003 Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 Ex M&H iron bracket at Cave Crossing East Yorks, mid '60's. Cave was a completly new installlation in May 1904. The signal is not all that it appears and is worthy of further comment. Photo' Rev David Benson. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted April 11, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 11, 2018 (edited) Not all that it appears? Clearly it's carrying signals for the main and relief/goods lines, as is the more modern signal behind the Type 4. I don't think we're actually expecting a train on every line. Is the box switched out? (If so, why has the window been left open?) Do tell! EDIT: I meant to remark on the wooden posts bracing the bracket from either side. Edited April 11, 2018 by Compound2632 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold russ p Posted April 11, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 11, 2018 Another intersting "Iron Signal" and one obviously "Cut Back". Cliff House July1976.jpg Hi Mick Sorry to go off topic is this Cliff house ? I didn't realise north works was as close to the railway as this. Do you know when it was taken and if the blast furnace was still in use Cheers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
micknich2003 Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 Hi Mick Sorry to go off topic is this Cliff house ? I didn't realise north works was as close to the railway as this. Do you know when it was taken and if the blast furnace was still in use Cheers Russ, I'm not familiar with "Up North", and regretfully I can't help. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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