4472 Flying Scotsman 5"

[greenglade]

Thanks for the caculation.....as I said such things are beyond me, or should I say that I've never applied myself to such things. 50lbs doesn't seem much though?  I say this when considering models of a similar type while competing in IMLEC pulling some impressive loads. The best from a standing start  pulling up to 30 people plus the carriages to carry them. That's an awful lot of weight especially when considering many model engineers are past their prime and shall we say a little on the large size, like myself....:)

 

NB: forgot to add, my model is 3 cylinder...

 

 

Edited March 3, 2022 by greenglade

[greenglade]

For anyone interested in the power of these loco's it's worth searching Youtube for IMLEC events, this video is from 2013 which does have some heavy haulers among the competitors..:)

 

 

 

Enjoy

 

Pete

 

[greenglade]

A little more work was done to the radius rods. This is the R/H rod, the outside flat faces have been machined on both rods. The center section needs fluting but before I do that I'll fit the ends onto a mandrel and shape the curves, this needs to be done before the fluting. As stated this is not to Don's drawing as I wanted the end near the expansion link to follow full size, Don chose to follow full size on the combination lever end which is strange as this part is pretty much hidden whereas the expansion link is out in the open? I haven't looked into why the discrepancy is there, Don must have something out a little which he didn't realise until getting to the radius rods. I don't think it's the distance from the frame for either the cylinders or the expansion links as they sit where they should, perhaps the steam chests are out too far in the cylinder block, they are to don's drawing but is don's to works drawing? It's an interesting conundrum... OH, BTW the small tab left on the right-hand end is so that when I set it up the other way around for machining the other side i know that it is sitting parallel and just needs packing square. Both ends have been left over length for such things although not needed the other end. Once these are completed I'll write a blog update...cheers

 

 

[peach james]

Remember that you have to get your fat fingers (or some assembly jig) into place to put it together- and what can be done in 12"/ft may not be possible in 1"/ft.  More than once, we've been burned by that.  Or just simply drawing errors...of course, with homemade engines, it's easy to blame the draftsman, but hard to find the envelope with the uncorrected drawing on it.  (or weetabix box...)

I remain in awe of what you and CF (Tim) are and have done with live steam engines.  They are not what I'm doing, but the art that you are putting into the technical makes it well worth looking at. 

James

  

 

[greenglade]

Time for an update, looks like it will be 4 entries all told for the radius rods, this will (should) include fitting in part 4. Here's part 2 which sees the front face finished in machining terms just requiring final polishing which will be done when all machining is complete.

 

http://4472flyingscotsman.co.uk/radius-rods-part-2/

 

Pete

 

 

[greenglade]

Evening all, this is the 3rd blog entry for the radius rods. Yes, I know that last time I said that I hoped to do this the following week, alas the bug finally caught up with me which meant 2 weeks down a short spell in hospital... I think that I've had more than my fair share of health issues over the last 6 months now, no more, please... Ok, so moving on, here's the 3rd part, the last part will show the rods/expansion links fitted along with the lifting arms....hopefully, that won't be too far away...🙂
 

 

http://4472flyingscotsman.co.uk/radius-rods-part-3/

 

Pete

[richard i]

Glad you got through your bout with the bug and are able to get back to life.

richard

[tigerburnie]

Glad work is progressing and that you are too Pete, pity we live at opposite ends of the uk, I'd have liked to see you at work.

[tigerburnie]

Not had an update for a while, trust all is well Pete.

[greenglade]

23 hours ago, tigerburnie said:

Not had an update for a while, trust all is well Pete.

Thanks for the concern... I'm ok... health has certainly slowed me down a bit but also in the mix is getting the house sorted to sell, yes we are finally looking to move. House goes on the market this Wednesday, this has meant that no work has been done on 4472 since early April. If we do sell and it's going to be hard to find a house to replace what we have built up over the last 40 years then it will mean a further gap in my progress with 4472. I am trying to find a property with a workshop or double garage to get going with 4472 asap but even so it will take time to get things up and running again.

Hopefully, I'll be back in action with 4472 soon, I need to get going before the ME mag catches up with the blog...:)

 

Pete.

[greenglade]

Hi guys, I hope to post an update over the weekend, sorry for the lack of progress. I have spent the last 4 weeks working on the house in preparation for the sale which, of course, took priority over everything else. Needless to say, if we do sell and then move, depending on what we buy progress will be slowed again further, you never know, I may get lucky and find somewhere with a good outbuilding for the required workshop.

There is another reason for making this post as I had a surprise today while at the club and thought that I'd firstly share the news here but also say thank you to anyone involved.

The story is that the club vice-chairman approached me to say congratulations on getting 2nd position in the ME Bradford cup. I had no idea what he was talking about. Once back home I dug out the latest issue to see what he was referring to?

Below is the quote from the editor's 'smoke rings' section in the mag.

Bradford Cup

I am pleased to be able to report the result of the voting for the Bradford Cup, awarded to the article or series published in Model Engineer during 2021 and voted best by readers.

The greatest number of votes was cast in favour of Mike Tilby’s series on Steam Turbines, who is accordingly declared the winner. A very close second was Peter Seymour-Howell’s series on the construction of a five inch gauge Flying Scotsman locomotive. Congratulation to both gentleman! I hope to be able to report in due course on the presentation of the trophy.

This was a complete surprise and I thank anyone here who may have voted for me.

Congratulations to Mike Tilby, well done sir.

Many thanks, guys, I'm humbled

Pete

[greenglade]

Evening everyone, yes i have an update, sorry that they are few and far between these days, I have made myself do this one before things get too involved with the house sell and then moving. Sometimes I look around me here at home and ask myself, am I mad? do I really want to sell and lose what I have here? Don't get me wrong, I don't have much but what I do have is a great environment for creating things while relaxing in my lovely garden? Plus the house now looks great having done all those little jobs that should have been done years ago but never got around to it. I guess the trick is to find somewhere better but so far this has eluded me, we keep looking though.

 

http://4472flyingscotsman.co.uk/radius-rod-completed-fitted-lifting-arms-fabricated-and-fitted/

 

Pete

[boxbrownie]

We moved from our “family” house after almost 40 years, it was a tough decision but retirement and the lure of the beach won us over and although now I don’t do any miniature “engineering” anymore it has focussed my mind and time (during lockdowns) on a new 4mm layout which I actually completed, of course they are never really finished.

 

But now the grandkids love coming to us for the beach and the trains, and we are so much more relaxed having realised that as we get older slowing down is not something to fear but to embrace and enjoy and our time can be used as long as we want.

 

Remember what they say though “location, location, location” you can do almost anything you want to a house except move the house to a better place.

[greenglade]

thanks for sharing, yes, not easy...we have lived here since 81, it's only our second home but think we should go while still able to work on making a new forever home somewhere out of the London suburb's.  It's proving very difficult to find such a thing though...:(

 

Pete

[greenglade]

Good day all.. a slight deviation from where I was, I recently received the laser cut parts from Ed (Model Engineers Laser) for the ashpan and decided to tackle this now. To be honest I'm looking for small jobs that I can do while not getting too involved in anything while trying to sell/find a new home. I should be packing the workshop away, not still building parts but the ashpan is pretty straightforward even if the actual drawing has a lot going on. Once again I turned to john Baguley for his indispensable help in converting the paper drawing to CAD, the full story is within this latest entry... hope you all find it interesting, more pretty pictures to look at than usual..

 

http://4472flyingscotsman.co.uk/ashpan/

 

Pete

[greenglade]

Evening chaps

Today i fitted two dummy eccentric rods just to see how things were looking, all seems ok so far, nothing timed yet and still no bobbings fitted but we are getting there. I have a short video to show the state of play, please forgive the abrupt cutoff, cameraman (er wife) decided she had heard enough of my waffle, to be fair, I hadn't briefed her properly..

 

 

 

Pete

[rogerzilla]

"Abrupt cut off"...I see what you did there 😉

[greenglade]

Hi guys

 

I just realised that my last post was back in June.. gulp where did the time ago? I have popped in just to say that I haven't disappeared. Around the time of my last post we took the decision here to move home and thus all work has stopped until that mission has been completed, currently I'm dismantling the workshop gear ready for when that day comes. This may be sometime off yet depending on the solicitors involved, we have sold subject to contract and have agreed a price on our new home also subject to contract. Things seem to be going well but hey, you just never know until you have the keys.

So I'm afraid that work on 4472 has stopped until we have moved and more importantly built up a new workshop, god knows how long that may take but I can say that it will be my first priority. Some of you will be aware that the Model Engineer magazine has been publishing my articles for the last 20 months and they are catching up to where I am. Hopefully I'll be back up and running before they do...:) 

 

Pete

[boxbrownie]

Good luck with the move, occasionally they go fast and easy…..on the other hand.

 

A frustrating time, especially when there is a project being held up 😉

[tigerburnie]

Where's Pete moved to the moon? Hope all is well he's been missing in action for a while now.

[greenglade]

14 hours ago, tigerburnie said:

Where's Pete moved to the moon? Hope all is well he's been missing in action for a while now.

 

I'm around, just not able to work on 4472 for now. We moved to our new home 3 months ago, lots to do on the house, plus I have to build a workshop before continuing with 4472. The good news is that I am making ptogress with the workshop, hope tomorrow to get the rest of the roof up, two of my son's will be in attendence to do the heavy lifting. It will be a while yet though before I am ready to create swarf again. Not sure how long as there is a lot to do, not to mention the cost involved, especially as much has been put into the house which needs a lot.  Oh and then there's the cost of a respray for my classic car which has become a priority, the paintwork didn't like the recent snow followed by instant heat rise, mind you the workshop machinery didn't like it either.

 

Pete

[greenglade]

Thought I'd show where I am with the workshop, sorry about the inverted image, I have no idea why this forum does this to my images. Hopefully, you can get an idea of what I'm up to.

 

Cheers

 

Pete

[SHMD]

I blame software engineers.

 

(...who is looking forward to progress - when you can get back to it.)

 

 

Kev.

[PaulCheffus]

11 minutes ago, greenglade said:

Thought I'd show where I am with the workshop, sorry about the inverted image, I have no idea why this forum does this to my images. Hopefully, you can get an idea of what I'm up to.

 

Cheers

 

Pete

Hi

 

If taken with an Apple device then it depends on the orientation of the device when you took the photo. Try it with the device at 180 degrees to whatever orientation you used last time.

 

Cheers

 

Paul

[greenglade]

Thanks guys, IIRC I have tried the camera (Samsung S21 ultra) different ways up in the past, all other forums and social media display it the right way up, only here does it show inverted, very strange?

 

Pete