IWCR Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 Regarding the Dora WW2 German gun as modeled earlier. This is available in 1/35 scale as a (very large) plastic kit. I have read of a purchaser of one of these in Canada having some serious explaining to do to customs following the interception of his order for an after market metal barrel for the model, this was rifled, just over 20mm bore and several feet long. The saving grace was it was made of aluminium. Pete Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cor-onGRT4 Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 Here's another type of railgun ready for transport 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
howardb Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 The firing spur is now added to the Rail Map on line site http://railmaponline.com/UKIEMap.php If you have never viewed the site it shows a old lines that have long gone. Cheers Howard 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pteremy Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 Hope someone is thinking about the 'opportunity' of providing a crew and other related items (ammunition etc.) 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SDJR7F88 Posted February 3, 2018 Share Posted February 3, 2018 Hope someone is thinking about the 'opportunity' of providing a crew and other related items (ammunition etc.) W^DModels for WW1 figures and ammo Couldn't of made my WW1 Trench Railway without Barry's superb items http://www.wdmodels.com/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Phil Parker Posted February 8, 2018 Administrators Share Posted February 8, 2018 W^DModels for WW1 figures and ammo Couldn't of made my WW1 Trench Railway without Barry's superb items http://www.wdmodels.com/ I'd second that. We used them on Owen's Bridge a couple of years ago in BRM and they are superb. 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tin Turtle Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 Here's another type of railgun ready for transport 12 inch Mk V railway howitzers, most if not all were built at the Armstrong Whitworth Elswick Ordnance Company on Tyneside. Served in both world wars, would make a very nice prototype for a model 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Marlin Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 Hope someone is thinking about the 'opportunity' of providing a crew and other related items (ammunition etc.) For those of you wishing to recreate the line of soldiers sitting atop the barrel, HaT Industrie make 1:72 WW2 British Tank Riders (i.e. infantrymen sitting on tanks) who are exactly what one might need. (I've found a review of same: http://www.plasticsoldierreview.com/review.aspx?id=1836 No connection, etc. etc.) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSpencer Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 For those of you wishing to recreate the line of soldiers sitting atop the barrel, HaT Industrie make 1:72 WW2 British Tank Riders (i.e. infantrymen sitting on tanks) who are exactly what one might need. (I've found a review of same: http://www.plasticsoldierreview.com/review.aspx?id=1836 Noconnection, etc. etc.) They are very good but note the 1/72nd scale. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Coryton Posted March 8, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 8, 2018 They are very good but note the 1/72nd scale. Given the range of sizes that real people come in, I would have thought that one could get away with the scale being 5% too large. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSpencer Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 (edited) Given the range of sizes that real people come in, I would have thought that one could get away with the scale being 5% too large. Yes but not the steel helmets ;-) Those were one size fits all. Edited March 9, 2018 by JSpencer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spannerman Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 Given the range of sizes that real people come in, I would have thought that one could get away with the scale being 5% too large. Think I'll try this approach with my Doctor! I'm not overweight, I'm out of scale. Nik Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ovbulleid Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 (edited) Besides haulage by a Golden Arrows kit Maunsell 350hp shunter, does anyone know what else was in the train when these were moved across the country? I’m thinking of using the excuse that my layout is set midway between Exmouth and Kent so HMG Gladiator would pass through occasionally, but they must have had some carriages for the gun crew (possibly sleepers for them to live in in the sidings) and wagons for the vast shells. Edited March 19, 2018 by ovbulleid 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium petethemole Posted March 19, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 19, 2018 Sleepers? Unlikely, as the army had perfectly good tents! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PhilJ W Posted March 19, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 19, 2018 Besides haulage by a Golden Arrows kit Maunsell 350hp shunter, does anyone know what else was in the train when these were moved across the country? I’m thinking of using the excuse that my layout is set midway between Exmouth and Kent so HMG Gladiator would pass through occasionally, but they must have had some carriages for the gun crew (possibly sleepers for them to live in in the sidings) and wagons for the vast shells. The coaches used would probably be quite old and likely to have been scrapped if not for the war. There might possibly a separate coach, first or second class for the officers but other ranks would have to settle for a none corridor compartment third if they were lucky. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSpencer Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 Photos and drawing seem to show some special type of van: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artillerie_lourde_sur_voie_ferr%C3%A9e#/media/File:12inchRailwayGunColouredPostcardDailyMail.jpg https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c4/HMGunBocheBusterTrain1918.jpg A couple of pictures of Boche Buster in Kent - the second showing somewhat specialized wagons - note the camouflaged train in front on the second photo: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artillerie_lourde_sur_voie_ferr%C3%A9e#/media/File:BocheBusterFrontOutsideBourneParkTunnel21March1941.jpg https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/97/18inchRailwayHowitzerBocheBusterWWII-Brightened.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WD1995 Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 There was a video on page three I believe that shows the WW2 version in Kent with a van behind it, I suspect this is where they kept the shells and other pieces needed to fire the gun. It would be a good wagon to model to run alongside this if anymore information can be found on it. Photos and drawing seem to show some special type of van: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artillerie_lourde_sur_voie_ferr%C3%A9e#/media/File:12inchRailwayGunColouredPostcardDailyMail.jpg https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c4/HMGunBocheBusterTrain1918.jpg A couple of pictures of Boche Buster in Kent - the second showing somewhat specialized wagons - note the camouflaged train in front on the second photo: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artillerie_lourde_sur_voie_ferr%C3%A9e#/media/File:BocheBusterFrontOutsideBourneParkTunnel21March1941.jpg https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/97/18inchRailwayHowitzerBocheBusterWWII-Brightened.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IWCR Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 Some of the vans used with these guns in WW2 were UK loading gauge continental stock which had run on the cross channel train ferries then requisitioned after having been stranded in the UK with the fall of France. Pete Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PhilJ W Posted March 19, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 19, 2018 The van next to the gun would be the special magazine van for the gun. Not very clear in the photographs but it was mounted on two six wheel bogies. It was open at the end nearest the gun to facilitate transfer of shells. German rail guns had a similar arrangement, one even had its own built in narrow gauge track and wagons for moving the shells. I'm not sure if the magazine van would accompany the gun unless it was being relocated, it would probably remain on site if the gun was being repaired or replaced. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejstubbs Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 (edited) Here's another type of railgun ready for transport Can people please stop calling conventional artillery mounted on a rail-based carriage "railguns"! A railgun is an experimental weapon which uses electromagnetic force to launch projectiles at significantly higher muzzle velocities than can be achieved using explosive propellents. Like this: See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Railgun If they could ever be developed in to a practical weapon, it might be possible to mount one on a rail-based carriage in which case I suppose it would be a railway railgun... Edited March 19, 2018 by ejstubbs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSpencer Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 Can people please stop calling conventional artillery mounted on a rail-based carriage "railguns"! A railgun is an experimental weapon which uses electromagnetic force to launch projectiles at significantly higher muzzle velocities than can be achieved using explosive propellents. Like this: See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Railgun If they could ever be developed in to a practical weapon, it might be possible to mount one on a rail-based carriage in which case I suppose it would be a railway railgun... They wanted to use those on DDX but at a Billion dollars per gun, the idea was dropped. For the price of a handful of such guns, they can buy an Aircraft Carrier which is much more useful. Having the best tech in the world means little if it cannot be built in numbers to be decisive over what it is intended to replace. For comparison, drones allow all sorts of advantages and can work out cheaper than aircraft. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium jjb1970 Posted March 22, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 22, 2018 The 155mm shells for the AGS are too expensive never mind rail guns. So the USN are in the bonkers position of operating a handful of extremely expensive land attack destroyers designed to some extent around an AGS which is to all intents and purposes just deadweight and a white elephant. However, it looks like China may have developed a naval rail gun. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium jjb1970 Posted March 22, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 22, 2018 Rail guns aside, this is a very exciting development by Oxford and the price is amazing in today's market, really looking forward to it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KymN Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 The 155mm shells for the AGS are too expensive never mind rail guns. So the USN are in the bonkers position of operating a handful of extremely expensive land attack destroyers designed to some extent around an AGS which is to all intents and purposes just deadweight and a white elephant. However, it looks like China may have developed a naval rail gun. Nevertheless the 155mm shell was extensively used in conventional artillery weapons. There was a 155mm US tracked howitzer battery that was our neighbour in South Vietnam - noisy lot they were too. We just had 105mm weapons. And for the infantry remember 'this is my rifle, this is my gun. This one's for shooting, this one's for fun'. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium jjb1970 Posted March 22, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 22, 2018 Nevertheless the 155mm shell was extensively used in conventional artillery weapons. There was a 155mm US tracked howitzer battery that was our neighbour in South Vietnam - noisy lot they were too. We just had 105mm weapons. And for the infantry remember 'this is my rifle, this is my gun. This one's for shooting, this one's for fun'. The shells for the 155mm AGS are completely different to those used by land based artillery systems. The USN did look at using cheap artillery ammo in the AGS so they could at least use the guns but they are non-compatible. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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