Warren Branch

[chuffinghell]

22 minutes ago, longchap said:

 

 

So that's where you hang your jacket up. That's a first sighting for me and might possibly be the first time it's been modelled in a loco cab.

 

A touch of detailing genius and really fine modelling.

 

Thanks Chris.

 

 

 

Thank you

I saw this whilst trawling the interweb and it got me thinking (dangerous)

other silly details include the billycan

 

 

 

[longchap]

6 minutes ago, chuffinghell said:

@MrWolf has not only been the catalyst but has been very helpful and supportive particularly during periods of self doubt when I’ve wanted to throw in the towel….thanks Rob

 

Self doubt is often lurking just round the corner, but you and Rob kicked it into touch and the result speaks for itself.

 

Looking forward to see what lies beneath the bodyshell.

 

Best,

 

Bill

[MrWolf]

Guilty as charged I'm afraid. The article was in one of the old model railway magazines I was given when I was still at junior school.

I'd always fancied making one, but looking at the limitations of the old Tri-ang Jinty, I decided to experiment with one of the Chinese made Hornby Jinty models, especially as I got one from a junk shop priced £9.

My intention was to build a "modern" take on the conversion with added details. 

Having confided in Chris about the project I think that it soon became a joke that as soon as mine steamed into Aston, someone would release a kit or a 3d body at least.

I'll let Chris tell the tale, but we ended up doing the research together and soon realised that although I could convert the Jinty chassis and create the trailing bogie it was apparent that despite needing quite a bit of work to convert, the dimensions of the Jinty were very much a compromise, around 18" too short across the buffers and the roof alterations didn't get rid of the worst parts of the cab. Plus the only rivet detail was on the buffer beams, nothing anywhere else.

So I went with the body that Chris worked up from the general arrangement drawing and the few surviving photos and we've been bouncing emails back and forth over the details for months now.

 

Mine's still under construction as I wasn't sure we would even find a flat with room for trains, but it will be happening very soon!

 

Frankly, I think that Chris is underselling the model. Considering the combined development costs have been about £40 and there's something complete (and running!) in such a short time, I reckon that a standing ovation is required.

 

I'm working on eight wheel pickups amongst other things. Below is the trailing bogie I made as a test piece whilst we were trying different wheels.

 

 

 

I'll let Chris take up the story from here on.

 

 

Edited May 21, 2022 by MrWolf

[longchap]

 

How did I miss this?

 

Love it!

 

Searching the web can bring great rewards 😃

Edited May 21, 2022 by longchap

[chuffinghell]

Both Rob and myself tried to gather as much info as possible but it proved difficult. All we could find between us was two photos, a basic general arrangement drawing and the article from a 70’s model railway mag

 

 

 

 

So as you can imagine there has been quite a bit of guess work and modellers license used

 

 

Edited May 21, 2022 by chuffinghell

[BroadLeaves]

Well, that is absolutely blooming marvellous. I've just put a hat on, specifically so that I can raise it to the both of you.

An excellent combination of team work, engineering expertise, design skill and perseverance have come together to produce something unique and really quite special.

The best compliment I think I can give you is that if that had been posted in one of the manufacturer fora, with a title of "New Highly Detailed Locomotive Released", I would have thought that it was a professionally produced model, and I'd now be furiously searching the internet to go and buy one.

You should be extremely proud of what you've achieved.

Now then, so far my search has turned up nothing, so when can I buy one? 😀

[Schooner]

3 hours ago, chuffinghell said:

(I really should stop thinking I can do things that I can’t)

Nobody can do things they can't! Look at what it is you can do - which you didn't know until you tried - and feel proud of the results to date, and confident in the improvements the future will bring. Brilliant stuff, Chris, truly, and nicely done @MrWolf

 

Can we talk about the painting and finish now please? Cos it's gorgeous!

 

Chuffing Impressive (Trade Mark?!)

[John Besley]

Loverly looking loco, looks a bit like a 14xx on steroids 

 

What did you use for a chassis and gearbox etc etc.

[KNP]

Very impressive addition to your motive fleet.

Would love to see a thread on how you designed and built it.

 

Keep up the great work.

[LDM34046]

Really impressive! Well done.

 

Love the cab work and detailing. It’s surprising how much difference it makes, especially when fitting a crew in place.

[Bluemonkey presents....]

Gents, an excellent mode; designed, built and painted to a very high standard with exceptional detailing. I think that covers it. Outstanding work from you both.

[Fishplate]

Brilliant @chuffinghell. Another example of the positive support so common on RMWeb. Congratulations @MrWolf.

 

 

[Gopher]

Brilliant - very very impressive.  Well done Chris and Rob.  Great to see in this day of ready to run and plant modelling some innovation and creative modelling.   Well beyond my pay grade, and abilities.       

[88C]

Well done Chris, along with Rob you have created something that very few modellers, if any, will have. Who says all Great Western engines look the same! We are often told that you must work from a dated photo to get an accurate model but, as I know, if there aren’t many you have to do your best and you certainly have.

 

Brian

[NHY 581]

Chris, Rob. 

 

This is utterly superb. A true testament to your collective creative talents and skill. 

 

Simply put, you are very clever chaps and this loco is a tribute to your craftsmanship. 

 

Well done. 

 

Rob. 

 

 

[NHY 581]

P.s............

 

Fancy one of these next.......? 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Gopher]

29 minutes ago, NHY 581 said:

P.s............

 

Fancy one of these next.......? 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Now is that an ex Taffy or Rummy 0-6-2 - with a GWR boiler ? 

[Rowsley17D]

An excellent piece of work, Chris & Rob. I have  a soft spot for 0-4-4s with 5 of my own with 2 more to build! The printed body looks every bit as good if not better than the CDC Designs bodies that are on the net.

[chuffinghell]

How it started

 

I bought a Bachmann 57xx with a damaged body from EBay with the intention of modifying the chassis and adding a bogie

 

Instead I disassembled it and wondered if I could make a chassis from scratch and 3D print it

 

 

Once I found it would work I went about designing a chassis

 

 

 

 

 

 

[MrWolf]

Chris really pushed the boat out with the body print drawing, getting as much of the original rivet detail as was decipherable from the old photos. It was whilst he was sending me copies of the initial drawings and CAD models that I realised that there was no way hacking a Jinty body about was going to pass muster forty years down the line and he very kindly printed one which will fit the modified proprietary chassis.

[chuffinghell]

Once the principal was proven I refined the design, modified the drawings and reprinted it in black resin

 

 

For some reason I kept the 8pin DCC socket

 

cut down pickups from the donor loco

 

glued into place (only as a way to keep them in place whist assembly)

 

Securely held in place once assembled 

 

 

 

 

Nut inserted for the bogie pivot

 

bar inserted to act at as a stop

 

the wheels from the 57xx were too small so these were replaced with a set from a Collett goods purchased as spares

 

 

 

 

Edited May 22, 2022 by chuffinghell

[chuffinghell]

It occurred to me afterwards that I didn’t need the DCC socket and hardwiring would take up less space and give room for a stay alive unit

 

 

not as neat but it worked
 

 

 

[NHY 581]

2 hours ago, Gopher said:

Now is that an ex Taffy or Rummy 0-6-2 - with a GWR boiler ? 

 

 

Very close, Gophers. 

 

Cardiff Railway but indeed Swindonised. 

 

Rob. 

[chuffinghell]

Once happy(ish) with the chassis the next step was the footplate and running board

 

Again this was drawn in Solidworks

 

 

and 3D printed. The running board in black resin and the bufferbeams in grey

 

 

I designed the bufferbeam to take vacuum pipes from a Hornby Tornado and sprung tapered buffers from a Hornby King class both were available as spare parts

 

With the buffers stripped and glued in place the vacuum pipes were added and the whole thing given a blast of red paint

 

 

After hand painting the vacuum hose black the buffers were reassembled

 

More???

[Schooner]

3 minutes ago, chuffinghell said:

More???

 

Yes please!