muddys-blues Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 O.K. In case anyone was wondering what all the jibberish was about on the previous page. Basically I bought the NEW Rat from Craig last November, and David / Jintyman did the work on it. """ Now Craig wants it back, and has offered me another new one in exchange, """ that David will do the honours on, i.e. Sound, Ploughs Crew, Weathering etc, and I will do the swap over when I go to Wales in November. So to sum up, I will have an all TOPS Fleet, once I have re numbered the pre TOPS 08, and later the 33 once the work on that is completed. Ha Ha .... I only asked the question where does the pre-tops Rat fit into the 80's stock !!! ...... Andy after 10 minutes of thinking pre -tops or TOPs Best regards Craig. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted August 22, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 22, 2018 O.K. In case anyone was wondering what all the jibberish was about on the previous page. Basically I bought the NEW Rat from Craig last November, and David / Jintyman did the work on it. Now Craig wants it back, and has offered me another new one in exchange, that David will do the honours on, i.e. Sound, Ploughs Crew, Weathering etc, and I will do the swap over when I go to Wales in November. So to sum up, I will have an all TOPS Fleet, once I have re numbered the pre TOPS 08, and later the 33 once the work on that is completed. It is a pity Noel Edmunds program Deal or No Deal is no longer aired, I was looking for some intellectual stimulation. :no2: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted August 22, 2018 Author Share Posted August 22, 2018 Ha Ha .... I only asked the question where does the pre-tops Rat fit into the 80's stock !!! ...... Andy after 10 minutes of thinking pre -tops or TOPs Best regards Craig. You did threaten me with NO WELSH CAKES in November. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted August 22, 2018 Author Share Posted August 22, 2018 It is a pity Noel Edmunds program Deal or No Deal is no longer aired, I was looking for some intellectual stimulation. :no2: I was looking for some intellectual stimulation. hahha On here? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold MarshLane Posted August 23, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 23, 2018 Better comedy than late night TV it has to be said!! Why do I get the feeling that Arthur Daily will be somewhere around here with all these deals going on Rich 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcus 37 Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 Oooh. I must say I'm liking the look of this. "O" gauge diesels. Very nice indeed. Anthony prefers operating PDW now so KoLW might get ripped up. Your giving me ideas that will ultimately get me into trouble with the good lady. HaHaHa Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted August 23, 2018 Author Share Posted August 23, 2018 Better comedy than late night TV it has to be said!! Why do I get the feeling that Arthur Daily will be somewhere around here with all these deals going on Rich Yes, he comes from North Wales as well, lots more wheeler dealings to do before November, hahah. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted August 23, 2018 Author Share Posted August 23, 2018 Oooh. I must say I'm liking the look of this. "O" gauge diesels. Very nice indeed. Anthony prefers operating PDW now so KoLW might get ripped up. Your giving me ideas that will ultimately get me into trouble with the good lady. HaHaHa Hi Mate, good to see you back, and I'm looking forward to seeing more update from Peak Dale Wood. So far the O Gauge move hasn't cost me anything, the sale of the Layout and the OO Sound stock, plus all the Freight later when I offer that will more than cover the change, so who said O is more expensive? You could do the change and treat Di to a Caribbean Cruise. I'm looking forward to getting the baseboards laid now. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWsTrains Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 It's amazing what turns up when you least expect it. NICE! IMG_5535.JPG IMG_5536.JPG Wow what monsters! In the nicest possible sense. I'm assuming the middle one is the Heljan 37/0 since I know nothing about diesels and resorted to the big H to browse their stock, what I saw there for some reason reminded me of a brain-teaser my dad used to ask me: Q "A brick and a half weighs a pound and a half and half a brick. What does a brick weigh?" A - less than a blΩΩdy Heljan Class 37 that's for sure! Colin Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted August 23, 2018 Author Share Posted August 23, 2018 Wow what monsters! In the nicest possible sense. I'm assuming the middle one is the Heljan 37/0 since I know nothing about diesels and resorted to the big H to browse their stock, what I saw there for some reason reminded me of a brain-teaser my dad used to ask me: Q "A brick and a half weighs a pound and a half and half a brick. What does a brick weigh?" A - less than a blΩΩdy Heljan Class 37 that's for sure! Colin They are little on the heavy side Colin, my mate Binny was around here last night to collect some OO Stock he had from me and could not believe the weight of the 37. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyram Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 Is it true that David Dickinson has just been spotted coming out of TOPs? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jintyman Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 Q "A brick and a half weighs a pound and a half and half a brick. What does a brick weigh?" 12oz Jinty 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simond Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 12oz Jinty er, I'm not at all used to these arcane units. I know I'm old enough to have learned about pounds and shillings and ounces, but if a brick and a half weighs "x" plus half a brick, doesn't that mean that the brick weighs "x"? In which case 24 oz which is 680g in real money, and still lighter than my 52xx best Simon 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jintyman Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 Actually you are correct! Yes? 1lb 8oz. The wording cleverly led me to take the extra half brick out of the equation and use it as an addition, where it was a part of the actual equation. Overthinking is not condusive to accurate results!!! Jinty 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted August 23, 2018 Author Share Posted August 23, 2018 (edited) Wow what monsters! In the nicest possible sense. I'm assuming the middle one is the Heljan 37/0 since I know nothing about diesels and resorted to the big H to browse their stock, what I saw there for some reason reminded me of a brain-teaser my dad used to ask me: Q "A brick and a half weighs a pound and a half and half a brick. What does a brick weigh?" A - less than a blΩΩdy Heljan Class 37 that's for sure! Colin 12oz Jinty er, I'm not at all used to these arcane units. I know I'm old enough to have learned about pounds and shillings and ounces, but if a brick and a half weighs "x" plus half a brick, doesn't that mean that the brick weighs "x"? In which case 24 oz which is 680g in real money, and still lighter than my 52xx best Simon Actually you are correct! Yes? 1lb 8oz. The wording cleverly led me to take the extra half brick out of the equation and use it as an addition, where it was a part of the actual equation. Overthinking is not condusive to accurate results!!! Jinty Meanwhile, back in the REAL WORLD, my 4 x Heljan Wagons arrived this morning, (see pics on previous page) TWO BIG BOXES, my goodness gracious me, and oh lummy what a size they are. I'm looking forward to weathering them with my 4 inch / 8 ounce Tar Brush. Edited August 23, 2018 by Andrew P 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted August 23, 2018 Author Share Posted August 23, 2018 Is it true that David Dickinson has just been spotted coming out of TOPs? And heading for a Bath in Matlock, hahha. For those that don't know, Andyram has a Model Shop in Matlock Bath. (see his link in signature) 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyram Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 And heading for a Bath in Matlock, hahha. For those that don't know, Andyram has a Model Shop in Matlock Bath. (see his link in signature) Thanks for the plug Andy. Mr Dickinson has not arrived yet, but there have been one or two RMWeb members passing through. Website keeps growing too. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted August 23, 2018 Author Share Posted August 23, 2018 (edited) Thanks for the plug Andy. Mr Dickinson has not arrived yet, but there have been one or two RMWeb members passing through. Website keeps growing too. Sounds painful. Edited August 23, 2018 by Andrew P Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted August 23, 2018 Author Share Posted August 23, 2018 I took the 37 up to our Club this evening for a run on the Dornoch Branch, Still not chipped so it was running on analogue, and wow, did that drain the power from the controller. But it was very quiet and so ran really well Mind you the controller was hand built by a Club member long before Electricity was invented. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bgman Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 I took the 37 up to our Club this evening for a run on the Dornoch Branch, Still not chipped so it was running on analogue, and wow, did that drain the power from the controller. But it was very quiet and so ran really well Mind you the controller was hand built by a Club member long before Electricity was invented. I've heard the club have invested in a newer version Andy ! J.Watt 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
muddys-blues Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 I took the 37 up to our Club this evening for a run on the Dornoch Branch, Still not chipped so it was running on analogue, and wow, did that drain the power from the controller. But it was very quiet and so ran really well Mind you the controller was hand built by a Club member long before Electricity was invented. Andy what was it like when you saw the first sparks electric stood with Dr Frankenstein? It must of been a thrill to be one of the first human beings to bear witness to such an invent ? ;-) Best regards Craig - The largest Heljan stockist of Rats in North Wales Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWsTrains Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 (edited) Andy, Back to scale trivia for a moment. If the model were scaled correctly for the size change from "OO" to "O" (1.77 times) it should weigh about 5.5 times in the bigger gauge! (1.77^3) According to the H site, the Baccy Class 37/4 "OO" weighs in at 770g vs 4.17kg for your "O" gauge 37/0. This is 5.4 times so amazingly (to me anyway) it is scaled rather well for weight. I hope you won't need a DCC chip rated 5 times as powerful, what sort of currents do these locos draw at peak load? Colin Edited August 24, 2018 by BWsTrains 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jintyman Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 I hope you won't need a DCC chip rated 5 times as powerful, what sort of currents do these locos draw at peak load? With both motors a current draw is about 1.8 - 2.5amps. Jinty Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobM Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 You did threaten me with NO WELSH CAKES in November. Can you even imagine a world, without Welsh cakes....? Regards always... Bob Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PeterBB Posted August 24, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 24, 2018 I thought that Andy said that there were three motors last night ... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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