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6 minutes ago, Roy Langridge said:

Spot on. I also find it strange that somebody selling a model for more than they paid for it is seen badly, yet we are all happy to sell a house for more than we paid for it. 
 

I have sold some models for very high prices on ebay*, they have all found that level without me starting them high. 

*beyond anything I would be prepared to pay. 
 

Roy

 

To me there is a difference between buying a model for your own use then later selling it on and ending up with more than you originally paid, and people buying models when they come out just to sell on at premium once the manufacturer has sold out.

 

 

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6 minutes ago, Coryton said:

 

To me there is a difference between buying a model for your own use then later selling it on and ending up with more than you originally paid, and people buying models when they come out just to sell on at premium once the manufacturer has sold out.

 

 

Maybe it’s time for someone to start selling class 89 futures?

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1 hour ago, Graham108 said:

I can manage the first part- it's pushing it in I can't do. Just spent another 30 futile minutes - tried tweezers, flat-headed screwdriver and even a thumb / finger to no avail. Looking at the shape of it I'm guessing it's got to go up slightly rather than straight in?

 

All I've succeeded in doing is remove all the black paint - but that's a minor issue. And I've also lost a set of steps in the loft insulation somewhere - I hope A/S have some spares.

 

@Graham108 the bracket sits at an angle both away from the body, also angled towards the centre.

 

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2 hours ago, RedgateModels said:


Also, those who snipe at eBay sellers, consider that they may be members too ….

 

Good luck with the sale @aureol40012 - looks like your doing well so far 😁


Indeed.  I don’t understand people who use eBay for fixed price selling, or auctions starting at the actually value. Stick it on at 1p starting price, no reserve, and off it goes. That’s how eBay works.  You win some you lose some, but it all evens out I guess.

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3 hours ago, RedgateModels said:


Also, those who snipe at eBay sellers, consider that they may be members too ….

 

Good luck with the sale @aureol40012 - looks like your doing well so far 😁

 

Over 400 sheets at the moment.

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9 minutes ago, gwrrob said:

 

Over 400 sheets at the moment.

Hmmmmmm 

 

Not selling mine, do you think buyers would notice if I sent a Bachmann? 🤣

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50 minutes ago, Roy Langridge said:

Given the Deltics were still available until fairly recently, heaven knows what the 37s will sell for. 
 

Roy

Better than money in the bank,think of them as savings........cassinos will be i will see your deltic and raise you two 37,s and a 92.......

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4 hours ago, andyman7 said:

 

 

 

Given that the model is a sellout, an inevitable consequence will be some market re-allocation of supply by people tempted to sell. Let's not forget there are some big money pressures on people out there; for some, the desire to hold on to a model they may have struggled to afford may be overtaken by the need to use it to raise money for more pressing needs.

Very good point. I was an early buyer of the purple peril, it was also my first sound model purchased, though others turned up before it. As much as I like it, if the need arises, it will be one of the first to go. It’s a great hobby, but given the current climate, who knows what is next. Family first and all that. 

So, any one for a purple sound fitted Deltic….. zero miles on the clock only £899, go on, I’ll even cover the postage ;-) 

 

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4 hours ago, Roy Langridge said:

 

I have sold some models for very high prices on ebay*, they have all found that level without me starting them high. 

*beyond anything I would be prepared to pay. 
 

Roy

 

I should be so lucky.....

 

Les

(perhaps I can get a share of the royalties on that?- more porcine aviators.......)

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2 hours ago, gwrrob said:

 

Over 400 sheets at the moment.

 

So that's enough for a sound fitted Rapido APT-E with five days to go. Not bad going! 

 

Cheers,

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food for thought, but off the back of the Deltic, its clear to me that should any other manufacturer think of touching a class 50, it will probably be shy in volume  to the tune of some 6-8000 or so sales of an Accurascale one should they go for it.. and think personally they should do at this stage. 
Thats a turnaround for me thinking the Hornby class 50 wasnt bad, but clearly quality is speaking louder, and I only see 3 other contenders (one which is unproven) to match that level, and price, and neither have ventured that far into modern image territory.

 

After that I think most high volume modern image diesels are then covered.

 

As for a second run of Deltics, I suspect thats inevitable, but some 92,37,31’s first please.

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My Tulyar (from Locomotion) arrived in Calfornia a couple of days ago, and I just had time for a quick test. It really is a beautiful model, very smooth on DC. Some loose black bits which look like fuel tank attachments, and one broken headcode bracket. The part is present, so that is fixable. All chains present, one detached from the body, and one trapped above the bogie, the heads-up to look for the latter was very helpful. I'm very happy with it, and quite a bargain really.

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On 02/07/2022 at 14:07, philg said:

I’m still waiting for my two, so can’t experiment, but I have been devouring the documentation as it becomes available

 

But

 

Have AccuraScale documented anywhere WHICH lights are wired to WHICH function outputs?  That’s basic knowledge that is needed before anyone tries to remap lights to other function buttons

 

Hopefully I’ve just missed it somewhere…..??

I’ve not seen anything in the enclosed documentation or the Deltic section on the website showing this information. I read the following data from the factory installed Loksound chip using an ESU Lokprogrammer.

F11 Tail lights - AUX 1 for No.1 end, AUX 2 for No.2 end. They are set up to change over automatically when loco direction is changed.

F12 Cab lights - AUX 3 for No.1 end, AUX 4 for No.2 end. They are set up to change over automatically when loco direction is changed. They are not set up to automatically switch off when loco moves off.

F22 Night lights (Wipac only) - AUX 5 for No.1 end, AUX 6 for No. 2 end.*
F23 Yard lights (Wipac only) - AUX 7 for No. 1 end, AUX 10 for No. 2 end.*

*As my Deltic does not have Wipac lighting fitted I forgot to check if these lights are set up as directional. I assume they are, but will double check tomorrow and edit post accordingly.

F25 Engine room light - AUX 11

Hope this helps.

I can confirm the Wipac lighting sets are set up for directional changeover.

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10 hours ago, Haverail said:

When I tried this the value of CV339 was 0, CV323 was 2.

I tried it and the stay alive now works but the forward headlights now stay on permanantly.

I would not advise changing the value of CV323 as it controls AUX 7. On the factory installed Loksound chip AUX 7 is mapped to F23 which controls the Yard lights on Deltics fitted with Wipac lighting.

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5 hours ago, Soul Survivor said:

I’ve not seen anything in the enclosed documentation or the Deltic section on the website showing this information. I read the following data from the factory installed Loksound chip using an ESU Lokprogrammer.

F11 Tail lights - AUX 1 for No.1 end, AUX 2 for No.2 end. They are set up to change over automatically when loco direction is changed.

F12 Cab lights - AUX 3 for No.1 end, AUX 4 for No.2 end. They are set up to change over automatically when loco direction is changed. They are not set up to automatically switch off when loco moves off.

F22 Night lights (Wipac only) - AUX 5 for No.1 end, AUX 6 for No. 2 end.*
F23 Yard lights (Wipac only) - AUX 7 for No. 1 end, AUX 10 for No. 2 end.*

*As my Deltic does not have Wipac lighting fitted I forgot to check if these lights are set up as directional. I assume they are, but will double check tomorrow and edit post accordingly.

F25 Engine room light - AUX 11

Hope this helps.

 

 

It does! Many thanks

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13 hours ago, Graham108 said:

I can manage the first part- it's pushing it in I can't do. Just spent another 30 futile minutes - tried tweezers, flat-headed screwdriver and even a thumb / finger to no avail. Looking at the shape of it I'm guessing it's got to go up slightly rather than straight in?

 

All I've succeeded in doing is remove all the black paint - but that's a minor issue. And I've also lost a set of steps in the loft insulation somewhere - I hope A/S have some spares.

 

Mine are all now chainless. The model doesn’t suffer at all from not having them. There are some tiny blue mouldings (water fillers?) that also came off, but you wouldn’t notice, especially once a little chassis grime is applied. Both locos have settled into a stable state and get taken around the house with me, plonked on a convenient shelf or mantlepiece and admired.

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8 hours ago, Soul Survivor said:

I would not advise changing the value of CV323 as it controls AUX 7. On the factory installed Loksound chip AUX 7 is mapped to F23 which controls the Yard lights on Deltics fitted with Wipac lighting.

Agree, changing that appears to have caused the lights always on problem. Yet changing it allows gets the stay alive to work. It is disappointing that the decoder was not properly programmed when sent out, neither F5 or Stay alive were functioning on mine. Put the CV's back to how they were, stay alive still works and headlight back to original none working mode! The slow speed stuttering is also almost eliminate, perhaps the stay alive assists now it is working?

 

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Blimey I've just seen the latest bid price for 55 005 on ebay and at that kind of price I might be tempted to sell one of mine, although the one I might sell is DCC ready not fitted sound, I expect the sound fitted ones will be the most popular with the best markup.

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