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This one is in the Brookmill Road local nature reserve, adjacent to St John's Station, SE london. It is next to part of the embankment of the long abandoned Greenwich branch.

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I couldn't decide whether this one was modern, or a very well done refurbishment.

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A few more from me. Nothing exotic though.

 

A pair of ordinary BR 12 tonners near Junction 24 of the M62

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Another of the same type at Altofts.

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Planked version at Crich and with 3-part pressed ends instead of the usual 2-part.

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This one could be a bit more exotic. Not a clue what it is though as it's probably been altered somewhat.

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Hi,

 

I've just come accross this topic - well, actually Andt Y told me about it.

 

During the course of my work, I travel all over North ceredigion in Mid-Wales. Quite visible from the roads and lanes of this area are some real gems if you like grounded van bodies:

 

This first one is a BR standard banana van. It has been used as a children's den. The photo was taken in 2007 and has appeared on RMweb in my Newhaven Harbour topic.

 

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This next van body is also a BR built banana van but an LMS design. I am sure PennineMC could enlighten us as to the diagram. The body is notable for the fact that three different widths of vertical planking have been used in its construction and not in any particular order. The eagle-eyed will be able to see the insulation showing in a damaged area on the end: three layers of 1" cork sheet. The end vents are a crude addition by the farmer. A picture of this van appeared in the Railway Modeller some time ago, where they suggested that vans were scrapped on site if they became unserviceable. I believe that in this area of Wales, most van bodies came from a breakers in Llanelli, some forty-five miles to the South. This van has sadly been demolished recently.

 

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Just the other day I took this shot by some lock-up garages near Aberystwyth: a palvan still on its solebars - I suppose this design of body would not stand on its own. Perhaps it still had a number plate, but the pile of fencing materials obscured the solebar.

 

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Finally, one from down the road from where I live. An SR even-planked 12t van body which has been in the process of returning to nature for as long as I have lived in the area. It has occurred to me to make the farmer an offer for this body. It would make a great garden shed, but would involve a lot of work to restore it, given that all the woodwork needs renewing. (My wife would throw a fit!)

 

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It has a provenance, as just about visible on the high res. photo is the number S 48248

 

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Showing through and seemingly under the paintwork, are some markings, or are they faded chalk marks? I can't be sure.

 

Colin

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That's a Midland Railway one. D.357 probably.

 

I wa recently looking at the estate agents particulars for a house near Skegness and it had a GNR 4-end post van body in the garden.

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Cheating a bit with this one as it is still on it's wheels-just.

Ex GER ? at Snape

Bernard

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I'm pretty sure I remember seeing that on a cycle tour with my Dad, around 1969. IIRC there was more than one van, but it was likely to have been in rather better condition then!

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I couldn't decide whether this one was modern, or a very well done refurbishment.

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I'd probably favour a replica, but it could I supose be real - clearly the doors are no longer present on the side shown.

 

I quite like this conversion seen in on a French Forum - http://s686.photobucket.com/albums/vv227/GUIGEZZ/ although I'm not quite sure about his uPVC windows.

 

Jon

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I couldn't decide whether this one was modern, or a very well done refurbishment.

 

Possibly re-planked on original ironwork. Something similar was considered when deciding whether to replace or refurbish my garage for use as a railway room (a vanfit is about the same size and how cool would that be ?) but Mrs P vetoed it.

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No close-ups I'm afraid, but does anyone remember these at Westbury?

They were in the yard of A E Farr (Civil Engineers).

Pictures taken from Bridge House, formerly Farrs office accomodation, in July 1991.

 

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Various van bodies, portacabins etc, with a train from Whatley Quarry behind. 3/7/91.

 

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A closer view of the vans, with a Meldon ballast train behind, 3/7/91.

 

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That's a Midland Railway one. D.357 probably.

 

I wa recently looking at the estate agents particulars for a house near Skegness and it had a GNR 4-end post van body in the garden.

 

Hi Natalie,

 

Perhaps you should take another look at that house and this time take a camera with you!

 

Colin

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Here's a photo of one of two van bodies that were at Kinnerley station on the Shropshire & Montgomeryshire Light Railway.

It was taken on 15/2/1981 about 20 years after the S&MLR closed. It appears to have been an ex-Midland van. The "S" can be made out to the left of the door; to the right would have been a"M" but the bush hides it (if it was there).

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It was positioned there by the WD who presumably added the stove pipe.

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Thanks to Flyingsignalman for reminding me of this.

 

I have heard that the grounded guards van at Cyfronydd on the Welshpool and Llanfair has Shropshire and Montgomeryshire ancestry, but have never seen anything to back the claim up.

Can anyone confirm or deny?

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Thanks to Flyingsignalman for reminding me of this.

 

I have heard that the grounded guards van at Cyfronydd on the Welshpool and Llanfair has Shropshire and Montgomeryshire ancestry, but have never seen anything to back the claim up.

Can anyone confirm or deny?

According to the carriages trust this is a LNWR van.

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Hi Natalie,

 

Perhaps you should take another look at that house and this time take a camera with you!

 

Colin

 

Too late, somebody bought it. :( It was a nice house too.

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Taken the same day as the S&MLR van body, 15/2/1981, here are three photos of the railbus body that used to be sited along the Criggion branch. I think it was used as a trailer for Gazelle before being put here (about a quarter to half a mile from Kinnerley loco shed) by the S&M.

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I think the remains were finally removed by (or to) the Kent & East Sussex Railway.

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Taken the same day as the S&MLR van body, 15/2/1981, here are three photos of the railbus body that used to be sited along the Criggion branch. I think it was used as a trailer for Gazelle before being put here (about a quarter to half a mile from Kinnerley loco shed) by the S&M.

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I think the remains were finally removed by (or to) the Kent & East Sussex Railway.

The body was from the Siddely-Deasy railcar. It has been rescued for preservation and I understand that it is hoped that it will be restored as a railcar possibly with a replica chassis.

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Been a while since I posted on this thread.

 

First are some pics of an ex LNWR Goods Brake Van used as a Crossing Keeper's cabin at Meardsall Crossing on the Nottingham to Lincoln line. I took them some time in the late 1970s or early 1980s I think. I very much doubt if it is still there:

 

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One that is still there, near Youlgreave in Derbyshire

 

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or is it Youlgrave?

 

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This is the remains of an ex LMS design Goods Van:

 

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