jimwal Posted February 8, 2022 Share Posted February 8, 2022 On 27/01/2022 at 23:54, jimwal said: The GE van has headstocks as part of the body. The chassis is held in place by small projections inside the body engaging in recesses in the edge of the floor. These can just be seen above the axleguard. A knife blade or thin screwdriver blade worked in between the chassis and the inside edge of the side can be used to lever the side away and ease the chassis out. The buffers don't need removing, they appear to be glued in. GE van body removal Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold gwrrob Posted February 9, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 9, 2022 The BR version of this van is now available. https://www.oxforddiecast.co.uk/products/br-ger-10t-covered-van-e612630-or76gegv003/?variant=36075324932251&customer=rmsweet@virginmedia.com 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Johnster Posted February 9, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 9, 2022 Yay! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkSG Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 41 minutes ago, gwrrob said: The BR version of this van is now available. That's good. Although I won't be getting mine straight way, as I've pre-ordered it with Hattons for delivery to their "trunk" storage service. £4 delivery seems a bit much for a model that costs less than £20 to buy, but once I've got my virtual mitts on one I can combine that with shipping for something else. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jammy2305 Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 Finished this van tonight: It's a GER Dia.15 van by Mousa Models. What's the relevance to the Oxford vans I hear you ask? Well aside from going well together as complimentary GER stock, the kit is actually for an unventilated version and upon learning the vents on the Oxford vans are a separately fitted part, I acquired an additional van to scavenge these for use on my Dia.15. Like the vacuum fitted van I posted previously, it just adds a bit of variety to the collection. My next project is using the discarded components of that vacuum fitted conversion (so the banana van body and the morton braked chassis) to make up a non-ventilated version of these Oxford vans in GER Slate Grey. Here is a preserved example at the Mid Suffolk: - James 9 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jammy2305 Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 Hi all! Looking to convert another of these vans to a vacuum fitted example but in the post-1912 livery with the large V lettering on the ends (in lieu of the red end panels used previously). I am aware of the existence of this livery variation but I have never actually seen a photo of it and so wondered if anyone had a photo reference for this before I make a start on said project? Many thanks James Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold gwrrob Posted February 16, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 16, 2022 Good to see the NE version is now coming in stock too. https://www.oxforddiecast.co.uk/products/ne-ger-10t-covered-van-630616-or76gegv002 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Dominion Posted February 16, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 16, 2022 23 hours ago, jamesC37LG said: Hi all! Looking to convert another of these vans to a vacuum fitted example but in the post-1912 livery with the large V lettering on the ends (in lieu of the red end panels used previously). I am aware of the existence of this livery variation but I have never actually seen a photo of it and so wondered if anyone had a photo reference for this before I make a start on said project? Many thanks James Hi James, not a photo but I saw a drawing of the livery here https://igg.org.uk/rail/00-app2/lner/ger.htm The page mentions some published sources but I don't know if the drawing is from one of those or not. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jammy2305 Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 9 hours ago, Dominion said: Hi James, not a photo but I saw a drawing of the livery here https://igg.org.uk/rail/00-app2/lner/ger.htm The page mentions some published sources but I don't know if the drawing is from one of those or not. The link won't load but if it's what I think it is, that was their interpretation/their drawing as they have done similar for other companies. Thank you though! - James Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craigw Posted February 20, 2022 Share Posted February 20, 2022 I had a pair of the GE livery vans turn up from Rails last week. Initial impressions are pretty good and I thought the 3 link couplings that are included are a nice tough. The brake gear error was noted and the springs look rather malnourished. I decided to see what was involved in converting one of them to P4 and I was rather surprised to find that a standard 26mm axle just fell between the W-Irons. I then measured the supplied wheel set and found that Oxford have decided on yet another axle length. 27.4mm this time! That explains to me why the springs look underdone at least though I really am scratching my head at the reasoning behind such a long axle length. I am not sure exactly how I will resolve this now but I suspect that I will fit Gibson wheels to the Oxford axles. They are 2mm diameter at least. Regards, Craig W 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dunsignalling Posted February 20, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 20, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, Craigw said: I had a pair of the GE livery vans turn up from Rails last week. Initial impressions are pretty good and I thought the 3 link couplings that are included are a nice tough. The brake gear error was noted and the springs look rather malnourished. I decided to see what was involved in converting one of them to P4 and I was rather surprised to find that a standard 26mm axle just fell between the W-Irons. I then measured the supplied wheel set and found that Oxford have decided on yet another axle length. 27.4mm this time! That explains to me why the springs look underdone at least though I really am scratching my head at the reasoning behind such a long axle length. I am not sure exactly how I will resolve this now but I suspect that I will fit Gibson wheels to the Oxford axles. They are 2mm diameter at least. Regards, Craig W Still awaiting my BR-livery vans, though Gibson wheels fitted the axles just fine on the Oxford wagons I have re-wheeled (tanks). I add a drop of superglue to be on the safe side, and had contemplated using the same stuff to add bearings and fit standard wheelsets. However, Oxford use a very slippery glue-proof plastic for their underframes, which is presumably why they run so freely! John Edited February 20, 2022 by Dunsignalling Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Johnster Posted February 20, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 20, 2022 Also waiting BR livery version, which seems to be taking a while given that Ox announced it released on the 9th. so I'm hoping Rails will come up with one for me during the week. I'll probably not do much to it beyond a light weathering, and accept the minor issues with the brake gear. I'll leave the wheels alone so long as they run properly, but the information about the compatibilty of the Ox axles and Gibson wheels is useful, since as Ox have used a longer axle on this model, simply replacing the wheelset will not work as the shorter axle of the replacement set will drop out unless the slack can be taken up with bearings, which I don't normally resort to on RTR stock that runs fine as it is. Ox must be congratulated on the value for money aspect of this van; a reasonable comparison might be with Rails' GW Iron Mink, at £37 a pop; Rails have discounted the GE van to £14! Think I'll stick with the Parkside... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold phil_sutters Posted February 20, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 20, 2022 17 hours ago, Craigw said: I suspect that I will fit Gibson wheels to the Oxford axles. They are 2mm diameter at least. I think that I saw on another thread that even that dimension wasn't 100% guaranteed. Not all 2mms are the same apparently. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickham Green too Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 (edited) 16 hours ago, phil_sutters said: I think that I saw on another thread ........ Not far away - on the Banana Van thread. ( To be honest I don't know why there are two thread - they're much the same model ...... ) Edited February 21, 2022 by Wickham Green too Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 6 minutes ago, Wickham Green too said: Not far away - on the Banana Van thread. ( To be honest I don't know why there are two thread - they're much the same model ...... ) Because they are different? Not even in the same LNER Wagons book. The GER vans are in the First Volume and the Banana Vans are in the LNER Volume. Jason 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jammy2305 Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 Well, as promised, GE No.12404 - An unfitted, unventilated van created by uniting a banana van body with a standard van chassis. - James 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwealleans Posted February 23, 2022 Share Posted February 23, 2022 How many of these vans had those clips around where the number is? I thought that was only when in fruit or veg use. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Johnster Posted February 26, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 26, 2022 Still waiting for the arrival of the BR liveried version, not that I'm in a screaming rush and it'll turn up when it turns up. but it would have been nice to have it for my birthday, which is tomorrow. Fingers, legs, eyes, arms, and everything else crossed for next week, then... Presumably the announcement on the 9th was either when the finished models were put in the container to come to the UK, or that they are here and are still being sorted and distributed to the dealers. I'm not going to stress about it, its a van not a Bachmann 94xx... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold gwrrob Posted February 26, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 26, 2022 10 minutes ago, The Johnster said: Still waiting for the arrival of the BR liveried version, They can't be far away as the NE version is also starting to appear in the shops and mine has been despatched. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickham Green too Posted February 26, 2022 Share Posted February 26, 2022 Mine was due to arrive today - but I've got to go out at the appointed time so I've had to defer 'til Monday ....................... as it happens, the postie's just been ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold gwrrob Posted February 26, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 26, 2022 2 hours ago, gwrrob said: mine has been despatched. Arrived and very nice it is too although I will be replacing the wheels with Gibson's. Those fitting Kadee No. 18 will need to replace the Oxford effort as there is too much slop in a straight fit. I used Hornby X 6354 without modification. It is very light but how to add weight to the interior without breaking it is another story. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jammy2305 Posted February 26, 2022 Share Posted February 26, 2022 43 minutes ago, gwrrob said: Arrived and very nice it is too although I will be replacing the wheels with Gibson's. Those fitting Kadee No. 18 will need to replace the Oxford effort as there is too much slop in a straight fit. I used Hornby X 6354 without modification. It is very light but how to add weight to the interior without breaking it is another story. Body removal is really easy to do on these and so adding weight shouldn't be an issue. Good luck! - James 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Johnster Posted February 26, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 26, 2022 (edited) Good to know, thanks James. My only other Oxford wagons are 7-plankers, and I am happy enough with them by and large, but I have the impression that they are lighter than the eqivalent Bachmanns, which makes them a bit skittish when they are being propelled unloaded. I have added a bit of ballast beneath the floors, which is a bit of a shame because there is good detail down there but it makes little difference from a normal viewing angle. Edited February 26, 2022 by The Johnster Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Dominion Posted February 26, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 26, 2022 (edited) 8 hours ago, gwrrob said: Arrived and very nice it is too although I will be replacing the wheels with Gibson's. Those fitting Kadee No. 18 will need to replace the Oxford effort as there is too much slop in a straight fit. I used Hornby X 6354 without modification. It is very light but how to add weight to the interior without breaking it is another story. Kadee 17s fit and close the gap usefully compared to 18s. I have been using them on the Oxford tankers too. Edited February 26, 2022 by Dominion Clarity 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dunsignalling Posted February 27, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 27, 2022 (edited) 10 hours ago, Dominion said: Kadee 17s fit and close the gap usefully compared to 18s. I have been using them on the Oxford tankers too. On the tanks, I removed the NEM mount altogether, retapped the screw-hole to take a Kadee 2/56 screw and fitted #146 whisker couplers. Very quick and easy to do, perfect alignment and much neater than anything that can be done with the NEM gubbins as all the bits you don't want to see are tucked up tight under the chassis. I'm hoping to discover that Oxford have provided me with a similarly located opportunity on the vans, when my BR ones arrive... John Edited February 27, 2022 by Dunsignalling Pix cropped 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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