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On 06/02/2022 at 03:26, steve45 said:

Does anyone know if they have NEM pockets as I would want to fit kaydees?

 

Oxford wagons have pockets that resemble NEM but they are non-standard.  The pockets and the fishtails are short.  Hence, although you can fit Kadees (or any NEM  coupler), they will slop longitudinally; ie.  your train will stretch when starting.    I can see no reason that Oxford does this, and it compromises what is otherwise a good product.  Having said that, the Pilchards seem to have a catch in the mount that addresses the short tail problem in their case - but not with the GE van that arrived at the same time! :scratchhead:.

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4 hours ago, KymN said:

 

Oxford wagons ...    Hence, although you can fit Kadees (or any NEM  coupler), they will slop longitudinally; ie.  your train will stretch when starting.   ... :scratchhead:.

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Surely that is good as it is prototypically correct ?

 

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3 hours ago, phil gollin said:

Surely that is good as it is prototypically correct ?

 

If that is what you want I would suggest that you use the three links supplied.  But I find that the reverse with Kadees leads to buffer-locking and derailment.  Not very correct.

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Thank you all for your advice, I'm in the middle of decorating 3 bedrooms at the moment so haven't had time to try and fit any kadees to the 2 pilchards I bought last month:(

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3 hours ago, GRUNFOS said:

See pic on last page, I've fitted Kadee's to my pair with no problems. Correct height and no play.

 

My Pilchard is OK thanks to what seems to be the redesign by Oxford (the catch that I mentioned), despite the short tail etc.  All my older Oxford wagons and the GE van have the play.  Height is OK.  

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I finally got round to weathering a Pilchard and have to confess it was great fun.

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I picked out a few of the internal planks and the iron-works in rust and wood colours, added some rust (Games Workshop Typhus Corrosion), lots of washes and finally a bit of dry brushing. Lovely wagon for the price.

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29 minutes ago, rembrow said:

had an email from Hattons yesterday, advising of two further Pilchards, for release later this year.

Will these have the same running numbers as the original release or different?

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6 minutes ago, Black 5 Bear said:

Will these have the same running numbers as the original release or different?

 

Sadly, seems to be the same running numbers.


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Changing the running numbers on a second production run is an opportunity which wouldn't be missed by other manufacturers. Come on Oxford Rail, you know it makes sense.........

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3 hours ago, Roy Langridge said:

 

Sadly, seems to be the same running numbers.


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Not sadly for many of us that didn't get them as they sold out on pre-order.

 

Too small a batch?

People buying a few and not being bothered the numbers are the same? 

 

They can do new numbers in the future.

 

 

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5 minutes ago, Steamport Southport said:

 

Not sadly for many of us that didn't get them as they sold out on pre-order.

 

Too small a batch?

People buying a few and not being bothered the numbers are the same? 

 

They can do new numbers in the future.

 

 

Jason

 

Now they know how popular they are, it seems a missed opportunity to do a bigger second run with different numbers, serving both people who missed out and those that didn't.


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7 hours ago, Halvarras said:

Changing the running numbers on a second production run is an opportunity which wouldn't be missed by other manufacturers. Come on Oxford Rail, you know it makes sense.........

 

How difficult can it be to change the numbers on a model wagon - for the 'modeller', I mean?

 

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1 hour ago, cctransuk said:

 

How difficult can it be to change the numbers on a model wagon - for the 'modeller', I mean?

 

CJI.

 

Yawn - just keep digging that old chestnut out...

 

I am in the process of modelling a Class 204 3T DEMU, modifying a 45036 to be an accurate representation of 45107, doing the scenic work on my layout, running my own business, have a wife and three children and have a seriously ill mother who needs a lot of support.

 

There are only so many hours in the day. Create a few more for me and I will change the numbers - otherwise stop with the "if you were a modeller" tosh....


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1 hour ago, cctransuk said:

 

How difficult can it be to change the numbers on a model wagon - for the 'modeller', I mean?

 

CJI.

 

I know from a few decades of experience that applying or changing wagon numbers is fiddly, and it only gets worse with ageing eyesight - I've done a few this year and yes, it's definitely a faff I can do without! In the case of the Pilchard only the last couple of digits would require changing but unless one is very lucky the new numbers off whatever transfer sheet(s) one has to hand are unlikely to be a good visual match for the existing printed numbers, so replacing the entire number then becomes the best bet, ideally requiring purchase of an appropriate transfer sheet..........um.............think I'll leave it there 😉!

 

9 hours ago, Roy Langridge said:

..... a bigger second run with different numbers, serving both people who missed out and those that didn't.

 

 

Exactly. I missed out on the first run and I only require one wagon so its running number is irrelevant to me.

In fairness to Oxford Rail we may be 'jumping the gun' at this stage and although they have used images of the previous releases they may well be planning to change the running numbers anyway - time will tell.......

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