KymN Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 (edited) On 06/02/2022 at 03:26, steve45 said: Does anyone know if they have NEM pockets as I would want to fit kaydees? Oxford wagons have pockets that resemble NEM but they are non-standard. The pockets and the fishtails are short. Hence, although you can fit Kadees (or any NEM coupler), they will slop longitudinally; ie. your train will stretch when starting. I can see no reason that Oxford does this, and it compromises what is otherwise a good product. Having said that, the Pilchards seem to have a catch in the mount that addresses the short tail problem in their case - but not with the GE van that arrived at the same time! . Edited March 9, 2022 by KymN Qualification 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil gollin Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 4 hours ago, KymN said: Oxford wagons ... Hence, although you can fit Kadees (or any NEM coupler), they will slop longitudinally; ie. your train will stretch when starting. ... . . Surely that is good as it is prototypically correct ? . 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KymN Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 3 hours ago, phil gollin said: Surely that is good as it is prototypically correct ? If that is what you want I would suggest that you use the three links supplied. But I find that the reverse with Kadees leads to buffer-locking and derailment. Not very correct. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GRUNFOS Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 See pic on last page, I've fitted Kadee's to my pair with no problems. Correct height and no play. Regards Paul. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve45 Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 Thank you all for your advice, I'm in the middle of decorating 3 bedrooms at the moment so haven't had time to try and fit any kadees to the 2 pilchards I bought last month 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KymN Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 3 hours ago, GRUNFOS said: See pic on last page, I've fitted Kadee's to my pair with no problems. Correct height and no play. My Pilchard is OK thanks to what seems to be the redesign by Oxford (the catch that I mentioned), despite the short tail etc. All my older Oxford wagons and the GE van have the play. Height is OK. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Legroom Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 I finally got round to weathering a Pilchard and have to confess it was great fun. I picked out a few of the internal planks and the iron-works in rust and wood colours, added some rust (Games Workshop Typhus Corrosion), lots of washes and finally a bit of dry brushing. Lovely wagon for the price. 9 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rembrow Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 had an email from Hattons yesterday, advising of two further Pilchards, for release later this year. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black 5 Bear Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 29 minutes ago, rembrow said: had an email from Hattons yesterday, advising of two further Pilchards, for release later this year. Will these have the same running numbers as the original release or different? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Roy Langridge Posted June 22, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 22, 2022 6 minutes ago, Black 5 Bear said: Will these have the same running numbers as the original release or different? Sadly, seems to be the same running numbers. Roy 1 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted June 22, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 22, 2022 Also, why still being called black? Mike. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halvarras Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 Changing the running numbers on a second production run is an opportunity which wouldn't be missed by other manufacturers. Come on Oxford Rail, you know it makes sense......... 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 3 hours ago, Roy Langridge said: Sadly, seems to be the same running numbers. Roy Not sadly for many of us that didn't get them as they sold out on pre-order. Too small a batch? People buying a few and not being bothered the numbers are the same? They can do new numbers in the future. Jason Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Roy Langridge Posted June 22, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 22, 2022 5 minutes ago, Steamport Southport said: Not sadly for many of us that didn't get them as they sold out on pre-order. Too small a batch? People buying a few and not being bothered the numbers are the same? They can do new numbers in the future. Jason Now they know how popular they are, it seems a missed opportunity to do a bigger second run with different numbers, serving both people who missed out and those that didn't. Roy 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cctransuk Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 7 hours ago, Halvarras said: Changing the running numbers on a second production run is an opportunity which wouldn't be missed by other manufacturers. Come on Oxford Rail, you know it makes sense......... How difficult can it be to change the numbers on a model wagon - for the 'modeller', I mean? CJI. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Roy Langridge Posted June 22, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 22, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, cctransuk said: How difficult can it be to change the numbers on a model wagon - for the 'modeller', I mean? CJI. Yawn - just keep digging that old chestnut out... I am in the process of modelling a Class 204 3T DEMU, modifying a 45036 to be an accurate representation of 45107, doing the scenic work on my layout, running my own business, have a wife and three children and have a seriously ill mother who needs a lot of support. There are only so many hours in the day. Create a few more for me and I will change the numbers - otherwise stop with the "if you were a modeller" tosh.... Roy Edited June 22, 2022 by Roy Langridge Typo 3 5 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halvarras Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 1 hour ago, cctransuk said: How difficult can it be to change the numbers on a model wagon - for the 'modeller', I mean? CJI. I know from a few decades of experience that applying or changing wagon numbers is fiddly, and it only gets worse with ageing eyesight - I've done a few this year and yes, it's definitely a faff I can do without! In the case of the Pilchard only the last couple of digits would require changing but unless one is very lucky the new numbers off whatever transfer sheet(s) one has to hand are unlikely to be a good visual match for the existing printed numbers, so replacing the entire number then becomes the best bet, ideally requiring purchase of an appropriate transfer sheet..........um.............think I'll leave it there 😉! 9 hours ago, Roy Langridge said: ..... a bigger second run with different numbers, serving both people who missed out and those that didn't. Exactly. I missed out on the first run and I only require one wagon so its running number is irrelevant to me. In fairness to Oxford Rail we may be 'jumping the gun' at this stage and although they have used images of the previous releases they may well be planning to change the running numbers anyway - time will tell....... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubbles2 Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 (edited) Had this on my faves for a while and just realised the inspection coach is next to the only pilchard wagon that made it to the western region! Seen here at Taunton. W80976W by Nick Baxter, on Flickr Edited September 20, 2022 by bubbles2 to post pic correctly and add location. 3 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold tractionman Posted December 7, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 7, 2022 (edited) Pilchards back in stock-- https://www.oxforddiecast.co.uk/products/pilchard-wagon-br-black-db990092-or76pil002 https://www.oxforddiecast.co.uk/products/pilchard-wagon-br-black-db990099-or76pil001 Edited December 7, 2022 by tractionman 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeithMacdonald Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 18 minutes ago, tractionman said: Pilchards back in stock-- https://www.oxforddiecast.co.uk/products/pilchard-wagon-br-black-db990092-or76pil002 https://www.oxforddiecast.co.uk/products/pilchard-wagon-br-black-db990099-or76pil001 Pilchards for Christmas? Makes a change from turkey I suppose. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium spamcan61 Posted December 7, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 7, 2022 50 minutes ago, tractionman said: Pilchards back in stock-- https://www.oxforddiecast.co.uk/products/pilchard-wagon-br-black-db990092-or76pil002 https://www.oxforddiecast.co.uk/products/pilchard-wagon-br-black-db990099-or76pil001 Nice to see the return of the Pilchards under the Hornby regime. List price gone up a fair bit percentage wise but still very good value for money in 2022, I'll probably buy a couple more. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halvarras Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 So.........at a time when other manufacturers are issuing triple-packs of wagons all with different running numbers, OR sees fit to simply re-run their first Pilchard releases with no changes at all? Lazy, and frustrating for those of us who don't like seeing a rake of wagons all carrying the same number. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted December 7, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 7, 2022 4 minutes ago, Halvarras said: So.........at a time when other manufacturers are issuing triple-packs of wagons all with different running numbers, OR sees fit to simply re-run their first Pilchard releases with no changes at all? Lazy, and frustrating for those of us who don't like seeing a rake of wagons all carrying the same number. At least Bachmann use new numbers, I've got one type of wagon where there were four later releases each with new running numbers and the stock numbers became -A, -B, -C, -D. The ex-Mainline Toad has had about 20 different numbers under Bachmann Even Airfix released their Toad with a different number when a new batch was produced (although strangely they didn't change the stock number🙂) Even Hornby use new numbers with an 'A' suffix or 'B' suffix etc. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cctransuk Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 1 hour ago, Halvarras said: So.........at a time when other manufacturers are issuing triple-packs of wagons all with different running numbers, OR sees fit to simply re-run their first Pilchard releases with no changes at all? Lazy, and frustrating for those of us who don't like seeing a rake of wagons all carrying the same number. The manufacturer lazy? How difficult can it be to renumber a wagon? Do some 'modellers' do no actual modelling whatsoever? What do they do if they want a rake of, say, 16T steel mineral wagons - expect the manufacturer to produce numerous versions of the same model? When I read complaints like this, I despair!! ☹️ CJI. 2 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 1 hour ago, Halvarras said: So.........at a time when other manufacturers are issuing triple-packs of wagons all with different running numbers, OR sees fit to simply re-run their first Pilchard releases with no changes at all? Lazy, and frustrating for those of us who don't like seeing a rake of wagons all carrying the same number. What about the people like me that couldn't get them in the first place? They can make more in the future, but can't we have the ones we ordered first.... Besides if you can provide some photos of all these different wagons I'm sure that Oxford will be delighted to see them. You do realise there was only a few built. You aren't going to get dozens of packs of three and I doubt they ever worked in rakes. Jason 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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