KR Models announces 'new industrial loco'

[Jenny Emily]

It can be seen running faultlessly for just over two hours on the Monday Club, in the company of the two Palbrick EPs:

 

 

 

[Paul.Uni]

On 17/04/2022 at 23:39, PaulRhB said:

There doesn’t seem to be a another thread for it. 

How about the thread it was announced in?

Edited April 18, 2022 by Paul.Uni

[PaulRhB]

That’s up to Jenny 😉

[Barry O]

Getting a full set of drawings from Hunslet means the BO -BO should be spot on as built. Appleby Frod have done a lot to them over the years.

Baz

[Les1952]

On 19/04/2022 at 13:06, Barry O said:

Getting a full set of drawings from Hunslet means the BO -BO should be spot on as built. Appleby Frod have done a lot to them over the years.

Baz

 

A high proportion of industrial locos had non-standard modifications done to them.  Cheaper than paying for manufacturer's parts and labour if your workshop has someone who can make something that does the job..

 

Les

 

[Barry O]

Yes, not many of these BOBOs at Appleby Frod look like the originals as they have had major work done to them.

 

Baz

[gpplumy]

On 19/04/2022 at 13:06, Barry O said:

Getting a full set of drawings from Hunslet means the BO -BO should be spot on as built. Appleby Frod have done a lot to them over the years.

Baz

We (Appleby Frodingham Railway)have also been working with kr models on the hunslet

[gpplumy]

KR models have released photos and a video and a livery sample of one of the 4 Hunslet models being produced. at Scunthorpe we cant wait to see these models hit the retailers. In the meantime , why not visit the Appleby Frodingham Railway and see these locomotives for real at their home at Scunthorpe Steelworks.

"Here we have a short video of our upcoming Hunslet BO-BO diesel used at the Scunthorpe Steelworks. The video also features lights and sound. It's not the final production model, some changes have to be made."
 

 

[adb968008]

7 years ago… the only industrial diesel on the market was Triangs Dock Authority shunter from the early 1970’s.

 

Lima put out an Italian Shunter, Weve had ex-BR shunters, Hornby pretended with the class 06….

 

And here we are in 2022…

 

We have 2 different Sentinels, a YEC 0-6-0, A clayton shunter and now a Hunslet shunter.

[Barry O]

And this one needed no research . Hunslet provided a full set of works drawings for free, the Appleby Frod team have given their information.. 

Baz

[gpplumy]

4 hours ago, Barry O said:

And this one needed no research . Hunslet provided a full set of works drawings for free, the Appleby Frod team have given their information.. 

Baz

i believe it was the steelworks who gave the drawings, as they own them, not hunslet, as such the locos were built under contract 

 

[The Stationmaster]

But does it represent the locos as built or as they are now?

[Michael Hodgson]

7 minutes ago, The Stationmaster said:

But does it represent the locos as built or as they are now?

Would the steelworks be likely bother to update the drawings if they changed the locos?

[No Decorum]

6 hours ago, Barry O said:

And this one needed no research . Hunslet provided a full set of works drawings for free, the Appleby Frod team have given their information.. 

Baz

Will KR follow the drawings? The Fell gave their reputation quite a knock.

[The Stationmaster]

6 hours ago, Michael Hodgson said:

Would the steelworks be likely bother to update the drawings if they changed the locos?

I doubt it - there's no particular need to as the locos don't work over NR lines as far as I know.

[gpplumy]

8 hours ago, The Stationmaster said:

I doubt it - there's no particular need to as the locos don't work over NR lines as far as I know.

 

There should be several differences between the locos. Including cab windows and battery boxes. Also roof adornments. This has been through working with myself and the Appleby Frodingham Railway. 

 

As you can imagine there was a lot less on the earlier 70s era than there is now.

Attached below is the livery samples where some differences can be seen 

 

These locos are used in shared yards between network rail and British Steel 

[Michael Hodgson]

The BR logo was sometimes referred to as "Arrows of indecision", but it seems nobody could decide on what colour these industrials should be!   I suppose the environment they were used in would necessitate repainting more frequently than locos on mainline work.

[KeithMacdonald]

On 17/07/2020 at 23:30, Mel_H said:

A suggestion in the comments boxes that it might be the TfL battery Clayton, has been denied, with "No, [but] close". But there's been no response to the comment that it's the CBD90 hybrid sold to Tata (pictured). Froth away!

 

Is that the same as the Revolution Trains model?

 

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Clayton has supplied variations of its CBD80/90 hybrid battery-diesel loco to a number of industrial users with an initial build of 5 for Tata Steel, 2 for Sellafield and 15 for Beacon Rail with more expected in the future. Clayton and Beacon hope that the Class 18 will begin to replace elderly Class 08s as the modern yard shunter of choice. The 15 Beacon locos have been assigned to Class 18 on the rail network and are expected to be hired out to freight operators in a number of industrial and yard locations. 18001 is currently on test at the Chasewater Railway with Clayton delivering further Class 18s from now until mid-2023. Revolution have an exclusive licence from Beacon to use their logo and branding on the Class 18s, plus an agreement from Tata Steel.

https://railsofsheffield.com/products/revolution-trains-rt-cbd80-se-a-clayton-class-18-cbd80-sellafield-ltd-hybrid-battery-diesel-locomotive-no-1-version-a

[Barry O]

The model on the Hunslet exhibition stand was all white.. looks good but.. not ina steelworks

[gpplumy]

16 hours ago, KeithMacdonald said:

 

Is that the same as the Revolution Trains model?

 

https://railsofsheffield.com/products/revolution-trains-rt-cbd80-se-a-clayton-class-18-cbd80-sellafield-ltd-hybrid-battery-diesel-locomotive-no-1-version-a

I don't quiet get your comment keith ? 

[gpplumy]

16 hours ago, Michael Hodgson said:

The BR logo was sometimes referred to as "Arrows of indecision", but it seems nobody could decide on what colour these industrials should be!   I suppose the environment they were used in would necessitate repainting more frequently than locos on mainline work.

Problem is we change companies! 

 

3 of the 4 liveries were companies changes. The most recent 2 were to decide on a new livery (2017)

[Busmansholiday]

On 10/11/2022 at 11:35, The Stationmaster said:

But does it represent the locos as built or as they are now?

The odd one was number 80, supplied as part of the later order for the 6WDE (baby Hunslets) for Normandy Park. The frames on that were thicker than the original 10 as the problems with cracking had become apparent. Otherwise, apart from the radio control system on the roof they are virtually (apart from engines) as built. 

Number 30 isn't a Hunslet, it was built by the Company to the original plans as a replacement. Frames built in house and fitted with reconditioned parts from scrapped ones. Cab layout is very different.

 

On 10/11/2022 at 11:43, Michael Hodgson said:

Would the steelworks be likely bother to update the drawings if they changed the locos?

 

Drawings were updated regularly by the steel works drawing office provided you filled in a request. Loco 30 ( and the  Trojans for Port Talbot)) had full CAD drawings.

 

On 10/11/2022 at 06:55, Barry O said:

And this one needed no research . Hunslet provided a full set of works drawings for free, the Appleby Frod team have given their information.. 

Baz

 

I think part of the contract for supply of locos included full engineering drawings. Certainly things I was involved in included that in the contract.

I may* have electronic copies of some of these drawings (actually, don't ask who supplied  AFRPS with some of them).