AdamsRadial Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 23 minutes ago, 33C said: ...a.......steam train chuff and whistle! You're going to make a Bulleid Leader! 1 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
33C Posted December 4, 2020 Author Share Posted December 4, 2020 Work has started and i'm scratching an itch plus it is falling together quite well. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
009 micro modeller Posted December 26, 2020 Share Posted December 26, 2020 (edited) I posted some more photos here but the best thing I’ve made out of the train set in a tin (or in this case a slightly different set but with the same stock) is this diesel (hope this is OK for people who’ve already seen it on the other thread): They’re roughly supposed to be representing 15” minimum gauge in 1:32 scale. I’d be interested to hear the gauges of some of these. Mine is about 12.5mm (so just wide enough to be incompatible with TT/H0m track, as I’ve discovered) and it might be nice to have something that would run on track other than the track it comes with. I do have an unusual set of this track system, with a point (with one moving part - the whole frog/rail assembly all swivels together) and the end curves moulded in one piece. I can try and photograph it later if anyone is interested - probably easier than trying to describe how it works. It was bought second hand at an exhibition so I’m not sure if it’s still in production. Edit: it is! See here: https://www.rexlondon.com/traditional-miniature-battery-operated-train-set The point has a moving switch on one side while the other side is static to return the train to the main circuit. Edited December 26, 2020 by 009 micro modeller 5 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
33C Posted December 28, 2020 Author Share Posted December 28, 2020 Yes, that's the set but different box. Mine has a suppliers label on it, "Imported by P.M.S." SS9 and it's called "Western train set". I notice the rods are upside down in your set as they were in one of my TIN sets but, just take the bottom off the loco, flip the axle over and they look more realistic, especially if you paint out the extra rods..... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
009 micro modeller Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 8 hours ago, 33C said: I notice the rods are upside down in your set as they were in one of my TIN sets If it’s the one from the start of the thread then it isn’t my photo. With the other link, I thought it might be interesting for people to see that there are points (of a sort) available for this system, even if they only work one way (the exit side has no moving parts). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
33C Posted January 18, 2021 Author Share Posted January 18, 2021 (edited) Remember this? £2 from the charity shop. Itch scratched and now it's this...(I kept the steam loco whistle and horn feature!) Changed the driven wheels for a pair of Triang tender wheels, a push fit on the axle, and the cardboard templates to get a feel for what fits and as a false floor and seats. Whole body hooks over small pegs so just pops off. Grill is an old tea strainer and the head-light is rerouted to a new housing on the bonnet and works a treat. Gauge is 00, 4mm and body scale is 0, 7mm, same as my Darjeeling class B. Edited April 9, 2022 by 33C added detail 10 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
33C Posted January 18, 2021 Author Share Posted January 18, 2021 (edited) Here is my inspiration for the above... Edited April 9, 2022 by 33C added detail 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
009 micro modeller Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 On 18/01/2021 at 02:48, 33C said: Changed the driven wheels for a pair of Triang tender wheels, (a push fit) What was its wheel arrangement originally? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
33C Posted January 19, 2021 Author Share Posted January 19, 2021 (edited) 9 hours ago, 009 micro modeller said: What was its wheel arrangement originally? BO-BO, sort of. The front bogie is unchanged, i just popped out the plastic wheels and popped in some ancient wagon wheels i had laying around. The driven "bogie?" was fixed with one driven axle and a dummy wheel set. Cut off the plastic frame and dummy wheels and pushed the Tri-ang ones onto the driven axle. Edited January 19, 2021 by 33C added detail 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
009 micro modeller Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 6 minutes ago, 33C said: BO-BO, sort of. The front bogie is unchanged, i just popped out the plastic wheels and popped in some ancient wagon wheels i had laying around. The driven "bogie?" was fixed with one driven axle and a dummy wheel set. Cut off the plastic frame and dummy wheels and pushed the Tri-ang ones onto the driven axle. Did the dummy wheels rotate (unpowered) or was it really a single axle? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
33C Posted January 19, 2021 Author Share Posted January 19, 2021 Just now, 009 micro modeller said: Did the dummy wheels rotate (unpowered) or was it really a single axle? They were just part of the moulding of the bogie with a single, powered axle. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
33C Posted February 4, 2021 Author Share Posted February 4, 2021 (edited) Here is my latest incarnation of the cheapo train set, hope you like it! Simplex, 40hp, tractor, "A" class 4 wheel wagon, "P" class 4 wheeled wagon, (assembled) and metal bodied, tip truck. She runs really well and with a little bit of lead under the wagon frames, they too run smoothly. Couldn't resist the last picture! Edited April 9, 2022 by 33C added detail 10 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
009 micro modeller Posted February 4, 2021 Share Posted February 4, 2021 Very nice! Looks like a subtly different version of the set as well. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold papagolfjuliet Posted February 13, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 13, 2021 Inspired by this thread, I dug out a train set in a tin bought for me by my nieces a few years back, and was pleased to find that the chassis is an exact - and I mean exact - fit for the Tri-ang Nellie body, with no trimming or packing required. This one is the 1980s Hornby pushalong version of the Nellie, which handily came with plain buffer beams, and once I've added side skirts and painted the thing it should make for a nice little more or less Cape Gauge tramway engine. The cowcatcher is from a cheap plastic Wild West toy of unknown origin. 5 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold papagolfjuliet Posted February 13, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 13, 2021 Come to think of it, the pushalong version also lacks the coupling mounting holes of the original, so a tiny amount of trimming would be required on most Nellie bodies. I dare say that if the chassis fits a Nellie it will also fit the Tri-ang NBL and Barclay shunters, the top tank, and the international tank. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
33C Posted February 13, 2021 Author Share Posted February 13, 2021 41 minutes ago, papagolfjuliet said: Inspired by this thread, I dug out a train set in a tin bought for me by my nieces a few years back, and was pleased to find that the chassis is an exact - and I mean exact - fit for the Tri-ang Nellie body, with no trimming or packing required. This one is the 1980s Hornby pushalong version of the Nellie, which handily came with plain buffer beams, and once I've added side skirts and painted the thing it should make for a nice little more or less Cape Gauge tramway engine. The cowcatcher is from a cheap plastic Wild West toy of unknown origin. This i like, where's my spares box? (your rods are upside down, just pop out the drive axle and flip it over.) 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold papagolfjuliet Posted February 13, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 13, 2021 2 minutes ago, 33C said: This i like, where's my spares box? (your rods are upside down, just pop out the drive axle and flip it over.) Ta. The rods will be disappearing under side skirts, so I might as well leave them as they are. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium boxbrownie Posted February 13, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 13, 2021 I hate this thread, makes me feel like a cheat, I get them out of the box and run them.......bit of weathering a few months later maybe....but this thread is amazing.......bu99er it 1 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
33C Posted February 13, 2021 Author Share Posted February 13, 2021 (edited) I went to buy a £2.99, wind up, "Train set" (tiny loco, tender and 1 truck, circle of track, all in light blue plastic) on a peg in the toy section of my local corner shop and it's gone! Right, who got there first? Edited April 5, 2022 by 33C added detail 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
009 micro modeller Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 4 hours ago, papagolfjuliet said: Inspired by this thread, I dug out a train set in a tin bought for me by my nieces a few years back, and was pleased to find that the chassis is an exact - and I mean exact - fit for the Tri-ang Nellie body, with no trimming or packing required. This one is the 1980s Hornby pushalong version of the Nellie, which handily came with plain buffer beams, and once I've added side skirts and painted the thing it should make for a nice little more or less Cape Gauge tramway engine. The cowcatcher is from a cheap plastic Wild West toy of unknown origin. I like the look of this and you seem to have got it to sit on the chassis at a sensible height which I’ve struggled with slightly with my locos based on this set. I did think of using it as a 3ft/metre gauge (slightly under for 3’ 6”) loco when I made the diesel I posted earlier (which used an American H0 body as a basis) but then I decided I wanted to carry on with the 1:32 stuff and that I could get away with more (in the sense of adding detail and making it look relatively less coarse) in a larger scale. But I might have another go at some 4mm stuff using one of these sets at some point. 4 hours ago, papagolfjuliet said: Ta. The rods will be disappearing under side skirts, so I might as well leave them as they are. If you’re not going to see them and don’t plan on ever reusing the chassis under anything that needs rods I would remove them. The rods don’t actually do anything useful but I found that they do have the potential to bend or spring out eventually and get caught in the mechanism or the track. The chassis is reasonably solid and dependable but the rods are a bit flimsy. 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold papagolfjuliet Posted February 14, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 14, 2021 10 hours ago, 009 micro modeller said: I like the look of this and you seem to have got it to sit on the chassis at a sensible height which I’ve struggled with slightly with my locos based on this set. No skill required there. As I say, it's a perfect fit for the body and that is where it naturally comes to rest. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
009 micro modeller Posted February 14, 2021 Share Posted February 14, 2021 26 minutes ago, papagolfjuliet said: No skill required there. As I say, it's a perfect fit for the body and that is where it naturally comes to rest. Was this with the battery fitted? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold papagolfjuliet Posted February 14, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 14, 2021 4 minutes ago, 009 micro modeller said: Was this with the battery fitted? Yep! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
009 micro modeller Posted February 14, 2021 Share Posted February 14, 2021 I’ve posted this elsewhere already but it might be of interest and in the spirit of this thread. Bandai ZZ gauge, from 2005. Although not quite as cheap as some of the stuff we’ve seen so far it is an inexpensive battery-powered plastic train set (a watch battery in this case). It is also a very interesting footnote in model railway history; when introduced in 2005 ZZ was the smallest commercially available model railway (1:300, 4.8mm gauge). The following year T gauge was unveiled and ZZ never really took off as a serious scale. It does seem to be used occasionally by military modellers and war gamers in similar scales who want a railway in an appropriately small scale for their dioramas, but I haven’t seen much use of it for railway modelling per se. I will probably be leaving this particular one as it is (but possibly building a 1:300 layout for it) although there seems to be potential to build a larger (perhaps 4mm) scale NG or miniature railway based on a ZZ set. The issue would be getting a reasonable quantity of equipment to experiment with, as they are long out of production and fairly rare in the UK. 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold papagolfjuliet Posted February 14, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 14, 2021 Almost done. Just need to fix a few snagging jobs, disguise the join on the sticker I used for the lettering (removed from the caboose in the set), and then cover the sins of my paintwork with weathering powders. 4 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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