Bishdurham Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 Time for me to look at that DJH Q7 again. Of course they only pulled eight, but a pack of three with some 20T would be right for the early days. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmrspaul Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 On 08/10/2020 at 18:02, johndon said: Probably more than you'd imagine as the two inner tanks, on the real thing, are lower than the outer two. John John Do you have reliable information on this? I am informed that the GA does not show the tanks so the drawing now transmitted to KRM has the 4 of them alongside one another. Other corrections, some more noticeable externally than these, have been transmitted to KRM by a colleague. If you, or anyone else, has accurate information about the tanks I would be pleased to receive it and pass on bartlett.paul@tiscali.co.uk For others to note there are 7 internal vertical battens on each door. Paul 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johndon Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 13 minutes ago, hmrspaul said: John Do you have reliable information on this? I am informed that the GA does not show the tanks so the drawing now transmitted to KRM has the 4 of them alongside one another. Other corrections, some more noticeable externally than these, have been transmitted to KRM by a colleague. I don't have a drawing to back it up but both the Bradwell and Alexander versions of the wagons have the two centre tanks slightly lower and I have anecdotal evidence from an ex railwayman I spoke to a number of years ago. I have, literally, hundreds of photos of these wagons but any that are low enough down to see under the wagon suffer from shadows that mean that the centre tanks are pretty much hidden. John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
truffy Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 On 09/10/2020 at 13:47, Roy Langridge said: Point me to a single manufacturer thread where advice and omission and errors have not been pointed out? It is all part of the process today. True. But I guess the expectation that errors and omissions would be corrected here is a differentiating factor. Not unique, as noted earlier, but not widespread either. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
D9001 Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 When KR release the Fell, GT3 and now these hoppers to considerable acclaim and sell them by the shedload, some people on here will be apoplectic with bile and rage. Sad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RBAGE Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 1 hour ago, D9001 said: When KR release the Fell, GT3 and now these hoppers to considerable acclaim and sell them by the shedload, some people on here will be apoplectic with bile and rage. Sad. I disagree. Just because contributors are surprised at the apparent lack of reasonable research doesn't mean that they hope the project will be any less than a rip roaring success. Contributors expressing concern should not be misinterpreted as wishing the project or the organisation ill. I have expressed my concern but if, as I hope, the project is a success, I'll be buying a rake of hoppers. Even though I already have two kit built rakes. In fact, I may buy rakes in both gauges offered. 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Legend Posted October 16, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 16, 2020 Doesn't look anything like my Consett Iron Ore Wagon , Hornby railways circa 1974 1 11 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fredo Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 Hi, very excited to hear this news, have you considered doing either a pack of 10 or 1 individual truck as lots of modellers make trains of 10 trucks which causes a problem with only packs of 3,6 and 9 available. thanks Fred Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold RedgateModels Posted October 16, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 16, 2020 5 minutes ago, Fredo said: Hi, very excited to hear this news, have you considered doing either a pack of 10 or 1 individual truck as lots of modellers make trains of 10 trucks which causes a problem with only packs of 3,6 and 9 available. thanks Fred erm, they were only ever in rakes of 9 wagons. Three rakes I think. With all the flack KR Models get these days I can only imagine the uproar if they offered a 10 pack LOL 2 1 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fredo Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 Oops sorry! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johndon Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 3 hours ago, RedgateModels said: erm, they were only ever in rakes of 9 wagons. Three rakes I think. With all the flack KR Models get these days I can only imagine the uproar if they offered a 10 pack LOL Until the 9Fs arrived, they ran in rakes of 8. I believe that 30 wagons were built in total. john 1 2 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hodgson Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 3 hours ago, RedgateModels said: erm, they were only ever in rakes of 9 wagons. Three rakes I think. With all the flack KR Models get these days I can only imagine the uproar if they offered a 10 pack LOL Presumably they also ran singly from time to time - to/from works for repair/overhaul? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RBAGE Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 1 hour ago, Michael Hodgson said: Presumably they also ran singly from time to time - to/from works for repair/overhaul? I apologise for any copyright infringements but the answer is probably, yes. 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hodgson Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 So I could justify having a single one of these on a layout not based on Consett or Tyne Dock, albeit not on a GWR single track branch and probably not running it on a daily basis. I rather like the train formation you've just illustrated. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold stovepipe Posted October 16, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 16, 2020 They were overhauled at Tyne Dock shops were they not? They wouldn't have gone very far off route at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RBAGE Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 1 hour ago, stovepipe said: They were overhauled at Tyne Dock shops were they not? They wouldn't have gone very far off route at all. I thought they went back to Shildon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johndon Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 (edited) The one in the photo (taken by Trevor Ermel) that Bob posted has 'Tyne Dock Shops' chalked on the side so it is either going to either Tyne Dock shed or Simonside Wagon Works. I do have a photo of one wagon off it's bogies inside Tyne Dock shed. John Edited October 16, 2020 by johndon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RBAGE Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 1 hour ago, johndon said: The one in the photo (taken by Trevor Ermel) that Bob posted has 'Tyne Dock Shops' chalked on the side so it is either going to either Tyne Dock shed or Simonside Wagon Works. I do have a photo of one wagon off it's bogies inside Tyne Dock shed. John Apologies to Trevor Ermel. I think you can see that the beginning of the chalked inscription suggests Tyne Dock but I can't make out the last bit. It would be nice to have one so inscribed but although I have evidence of ore trains through Newton Hall Junction, it's unlikely that they would have travelled that way on route to either shed or works. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Saunders Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 7 hours ago, Michael Hodgson said: So I could justify having a single one of these on a layout not based on Consett or Tyne Dock, albeit not on a GWR single track branch and probably not running it on a daily basis. I rather like the train formation you've just illustrated. Two of them made it to Sheerness and were used at the Steelworks internally! Others survived at Lackenby as iu flats or Bolsters! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
R Marshall Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 The location in the photo looks like Pelaw, perhaps? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johndon Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 22 hours ago, R Marshall said: The location in the photo looks like Pelaw, perhaps? It is. John 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LNERGE Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 Does anyone do a model of these? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Harvey Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 Plenty of lookalikes in the continental ranges across all scales, for anyone who fancies a carve, cut and shut conversion. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Hilux5972 Posted November 8, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 8, 2020 Jeez the model isn’t even out and yet and people are already cutting them up lol. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Saunders Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 2 hours ago, LNERGE said: Does anyone do a model of these? Not yet but there is always the possibility as people keep asking about the LHZ Stonebridge Park hoppers! 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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