RMweb Gold adb968008 Posted October 12, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 12, 2020 2 hours ago, 158722 said: Would there be any possibility of one of the manufacturers deciding to bow out now, but not loose out on what preparation they have done so far? Such as using the underframe tooling on something else, such as the HEA/HSA family? The Bachmann one is reasonable model, but must be getting on a bit now and could probably benefit from a new generation model, done to the same spec as both Cavalex and Accurascale have managed with other releases. can you spot the difference between a Replica, Dapol, Bachmann or Hornby HEA made c2000 (aside of the coupling and the box it comes in).. I understand theres a story there? I wouldnt be surprised if a HEA is on a few manufacturers lists. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Railfreight1998 Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 (edited) 8 minutes ago, surfsup said: Could / would it not be better if one produces the HAA / HMA, The other produces the HBA / HFA? I think cavalex have toolings in progress for both types, not sure about Accurascale. It would be quite expensive to ditch one set. Edited October 12, 2020 by Railfreight1998 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Colin_McLeod Posted October 12, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 12, 2020 Have I missed the bit where Accurascale have confirmed that they will be making said HAA? 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Roy Langridge Posted October 12, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 12, 2020 17 minutes ago, Colin_McLeod said: Have I missed the bit where Accurascale have confirmed that they will be making said HAA? Only this: Roy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold adb968008 Posted October 12, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 12, 2020 (edited) tbh, given how prevalent an MGR is, and quantities people will buy, there could be room for both. Given how many were made, duplicating running numbers would be quite an achievement too. Edited October 12, 2020 by adb968008 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Colin_McLeod Posted October 12, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 12, 2020 14 minutes ago, Roy Langridge said: Only this: Roy That post does not actually confirm the HAA but an HAA is a possible interpretation. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomScrut Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 2 minutes ago, Colin_McLeod said: That post does not actually confirm the HAA but an HAA is a possible interpretation. 11 hours ago, Accurascale Fran said: We will not formally announce any new project without a sample and we are sticking to that mantra. However, we can confirm that a lot of work has been put into such a project and steel has been cut a number of weeks ago, so we are well past the point of no return. As a professional courtesy, we did inform the two retailers commissioning the other model as they are two of our stockists as we felt it was only fair to do so. Once you proceed into tooling the big money spending has begun and it is beyond the point of no return as they say. I think the first sentence is why there is not an announcement. The rest pretty much says they are doing it without "announcing" in my opinion. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium njee20 Posted October 12, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 12, 2020 Yeah, it's as much of an admission without saying "we're doing an HAA". 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Downendian Posted October 12, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 12, 2020 Take a look on the accurascale Facebook page if you have access. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold adb968008 Posted October 12, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 12, 2020 That picture of the Accurascale logo on the HAA I recall seeing before, after Warley last year... hmmm that reminds me..I saw the Accurascale name written on the side of 50033 too... 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dagworth Posted October 12, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 12, 2020 2 hours ago, The Stationmaster said: Sorry to go OT in a thread about Accurascale's progress with various new items . But I have heard a whisper, from more than one source, that in the case of Bachmann it might well be a considerably shorter period than 3 months. This is where Bachmann put a new HAA on the shelves in time for Christmas 2020... Andi 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Downendian Posted October 12, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 12, 2020 Well for one I'd be delighted. I've just caught up with the Cavalex announcement, and I'd almost given up on buying second hand Hornby HAAs which are past their sell by date, and in short supply. MGR trains from South Wales thundering through Bristol Parkway on their way to Didcot another essential working for my layout. Pairs of 37s working fly ash to Highbridge for M5 construction too. One such South Wales train was always double headed by two class 47s, needed for the climb from the Severn Tunnel. At last years Bristol show, and a catch up with my old friend Phil Bullock, we were discussing how well received a HAA model would be, or to us old fogies HOP ABs in old currency, neil 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porcy Mane Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 1 hour ago, adb968008 said: That picture of the Accurascale logo on the HAA I recall seeing before, after Warley last year... hmmm that reminds me..I saw the Accurascale name written on the side of 50033 too... Means nothing. 2 1 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold adb968008 Posted October 12, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 12, 2020 6 minutes ago, Porcy Mane said: Means nothing. i smell a new kind of wishlist coming on... 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted October 12, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 12, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, Colin_McLeod said: That post does not actually confirm the HAA but an HAA is a possible interpretation. It's a bit like "Comical Ali" admitting that there are no US tanks in Baghdad...................................... That'll be lost on the younger generation Edited October 12, 2020 by newbryford 1 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dagworth Posted October 12, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 12, 2020 7 minutes ago, newbryford said: It's a bit like "Comical Ali" admitting that there are no US tanks in Baghdad...................................... That'll be lost on the younger generation "Accurascale have no plans to model a Deltic, or any other loco or wagon" Andi 1 1 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold BR Blue Posted October 12, 2020 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted October 12, 2020 3 hours ago, surfsup said: Could / would it not be better if one produces the HAA / HMA, The other produces the HBA / HFA? Except the HBA is a completely different wagon with no common components and a different wheelbase to the HFA. The HBA and HEA are variants of the same basic design. HAA, HFA and HMA are all from the same family. The HBA is not. It does get confusing 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porcy Mane Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 29 minutes ago, adb968008 said: i smell a new kind of wishlist coming on... You haven't been looking. Refusals at every juncture. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted October 13, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 13, 2020 8 hours ago, Downendian said: or to us old fogies HOP ABs in old currency, Surely you mean HOP 32 AB, or, for the avoidance of doubt MGR's! Mike. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold stovepipe Posted October 13, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 13, 2020 HOP 32 AB were the HAAs with the top canopy weren't they? And HOP AB were the ordinary original variant. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzer Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 The Accurascale Facebook imge wagon has HMA on it very clearly. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Accurascale Fran Posted October 13, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 13, 2020 9 hours ago, Dagworth said: "Accurascale have no plans to model a Deltic, or any other loco or wagon" Andi Ah, that brings back memories of a certain early 00s modelling blog! For those who dont facebook, here is the image from Warley last year as discussed above! Cheers! Fran 5 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Bucoops Posted October 13, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 13, 2020 Accurascale - going to infinity and beyond 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
retbsignalman Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 What if.....its not a HAA MGR wagon they've got there and they're doing its smaller brother, the APCM gypsum hopper that worked between Mountfield and Northfleet? For ever in anticipation....... 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold adb968008 Posted October 13, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 13, 2020 2 hours ago, Bucoops said: Accurascale - going to infinity and beyond Anyone spot the MGR wagon in that picture ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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