RMweb Gold TomE Posted March 16, 2021 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted March 16, 2021 The Class 319 will be the first to feature a working auto coupler: It does appear to be a slightly different design on the 158 CAD though. Tom. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
1977joey Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 5 hours ago, Mike Harvey said: The cab end of the CAD shows a Scharfenberg type coupler with a big cut out in the buffer beam to allow it to swing. A working auto coupler of this type would be a first for Farish. The old Poole Farish 158 had couplers attached to the bogie and the air dam rotated with the bogie. Cheers for that info Mike, though I'd like to know if the actual coupler can be changed to allow it to work in multiple with other second generation units such as the 150's. If it's an NEM socket then that's great. If not then that restricts it to just working in multiple with other 158's On the other hand, if it's not NEM, Farish could possibly make Sharfenberg couplers that are NEM a modeller could purchase seperately to convert 150's & the like to couple up to the 158. After all, that's the fun of multiple units, to be able to couple them up with others, just a thought... Cheers, Mark 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Kris Posted March 16, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 16, 2021 2 hours ago, 1977joey said: Cheers for that info Mike, though I'd like to know if the actual coupler can be changed to allow it to work in multiple with other second generation units such as the 150's. If it's an NEM socket then that's great. If not then that restricts it to just working in multiple with other 158's On the other hand, if it's not NEM, Farish could possibly make Sharfenberg couplers that are NEM a modeller could purchase seperately to convert 150's & the like to couple up to the 158. After all, that's the fun of multiple units, to be able to couple them up with others, just a thought... Cheers, Mark If it can't be connected to other multiple units of different classes, it would be a major failure given the frequency in which it happens in reality. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Adam1701D Posted March 16, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 16, 2021 6 hours ago, TomE said: The Class 319 will be the first to feature a working auto coupler: It does appear to be a slightly different design on the 158 CAD though. Tom. Good lord! Are those OO couplings fitted? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahame Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 59 minutes ago, Captain Electra said: Good lord! Are those OO couplings fitted? Looks like it. And the gap would probably defeat an Olympic long jumper. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium John M Upton Posted March 16, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 16, 2021 That is appallingly bad! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Harvey Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 (edited) 17 hours ago, 1977joey said: Cheers for that info Mike, though I'd like to know if the actual coupler can be changed to allow it to work in multiple with other second generation units such as the 150's. If it's an NEM socket then that's great. If not then that restricts it to just working in multiple with other 158's On the other hand, if it's not NEM, Farish could possibly make Sharfenberg couplers that are NEM a modeller could purchase seperately to convert 150's & the like to couple up to the 158. After all, that's the fun of multiple units, to be able to couple them up with others, just a thought... Cheers, Mark Mark You probably know that Dapol already produce an NEM Scharfenberg coupler as part of 2A-000-029. You get 6 couplers in three different lengths. Might suit for NEM fitted MUs. It has an Dapol Digest topic. https://digest.Dapol.co.uk/forum/n-gauge-models/accessories/easi-shunt-couplings/7922-scharfenburg-coupler-2a-000-029 Edited March 17, 2021 by Mike Harvey 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Adam1701D Posted March 17, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 17, 2021 Very true, Mike. At over £300, I would not be expecting to splash more cash on replacement couplings. Being charitable, this is an EP, so hopefully will change. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TomE Posted March 3, 2022 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted March 3, 2022 According to the latest Bachmann Times, EP samples for the 158 have arrived at Barwell and will be on display at Alexandra Palace. Tom. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium John M Upton Posted March 3, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 3, 2022 Should be interesting, although would I be right in thinking it will be hidden away in that Collectors Club lounge? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahame Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 Yep, that's effectively what their magazine said. Well, not hidden away, but in the collectors club lounge. Hopefully it will be in cabinet that can be seen from inside and outside of the stand. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Steven B Posted March 4, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 4, 2022 Announcement to EP in 4 years! I could have walked to China and back twice in that time... Steven B. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium John M Upton Posted March 4, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 4, 2022 That's pretty speedy compared with Dapol's often glacial progress on certain projects in the same scale.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TomE Posted March 19, 2022 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted March 19, 2022 (edited) Having seen the EP at Alexandra Palace today, all I can say is the wait for the 158 will be more than worth it. The underframe detail alone is a work of art. Bachmann very kindly let me photograph a sample and the photos will be on ngaugenews.com on Monday morning. Edit: Photos now up here Tom. Edited March 21, 2022 by TomE 2 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TomE Posted March 31, 2022 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted March 31, 2022 Injecting some photos back into the thread, here are a couple of one of the EP samples on show at Alexandra Palace. More can be found here. The 158 may well be the best N Gauge UK outline RTR DMU I've seen yet, even based on these early samples. Thanks to Bachmann for the close up look. Tom. 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodenhead Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 (edited) You've posted the wrong images, they have to be OO surely 😆 Those do look nice, but not for me, really, these are not in my railway timeline. Looks at the underframe details some more, nope I am not having one, it would be wrong. Edit: Just had a look on your site, they are absolutely fantastic. Edited March 31, 2022 by woodenhead 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Padishar Creel Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 Hallo, The 158 does look impressive. How far apart are the corridor connections when coupled together? Not seen any square on photos of them. Thanks in advance es grüßt pc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TomE Posted March 31, 2022 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted March 31, 2022 1 hour ago, Padishar Creel said: Hallo, The 158 does look impressive. How far apart are the corridor connections when coupled together? Not seen any square on photos of them. Thanks in advance es grüßt pc The coupler is on a close coupling mechanism so it’s pretty close on the straight, maybe only a 2mm gap at most on the samples on show at Alexandra Palace. Tom. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium richierich Posted April 5, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 5, 2022 Looks to be a nice model. Assume the tooling will reflect the variation on the 4mm model, with different air conditioning roof vents etc appropriate to the livery / period. It would be great one day to see West Yorkshire PTE 158/9 crimson and buttermilk version. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBM37404 Posted April 7, 2022 Share Posted April 7, 2022 I wonder if they will offer snowplough front skirts as per the scottish fleet from the early 90s onwards? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steadfast Posted April 7, 2022 Share Posted April 7, 2022 47 minutes ago, JBM37404 said: I wonder if they will offer snowplough front skirts as per the scottish fleet from the early 90s onwards? I'd quite happily bet on it given they've done it in 4mm and the fact details such as Airton variations have been included. Jo 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham108 Posted April 7, 2022 Share Posted April 7, 2022 1 hour ago, JBM37404 said: I wonder if they will offer snowplough front skirts as per the scottish fleet from the early 90s onwards? Are they known as 'kilts' north of the border? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Martin Posted April 7, 2022 Share Posted April 7, 2022 (edited) On 31/03/2022 at 12:49, TomE said: Injecting some photos back into the thread, here are a couple of one of the EP samples on show at Alexandra Palace. More can be found here. The 158 may well be the best N Gauge UK outline RTR DMU I've seen yet, even based on these early samples. Thanks to Bachmann for the close up look. Tom. On the one hand, I agree with you. It looks like a lovely model. I hope that we won't be waiting for years more for the versions with revised aircon pods; and there are so many liveries to choose from that I can see the one I really want - the vile First TPE blue vinyls overlaid on the Northern Spirit plum and gold "scheme" - never getting done; but it looks like a lovely model. On the other hand, it better had be the best N gauge UK outline DMU ever. It's the first new model of a DMU since 2019 (the not-brilliant Dapol class 142) and the last one Bachmann released was the Blue Pullman in 2012. You'd hope that a manufacturer could find something to improve on, given a decade to do it. Jim PS. I thought something looked "off", but I couldn't place it: what's going on with the cab side windows? There's a recessed section where the lower window's supposed to be, but no actual window. Jim Edited April 7, 2022 by Jim Martin Minor typo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steadfast Posted April 7, 2022 Share Posted April 7, 2022 39 minutes ago, Jim Martin said: thought something looked "off", but I couldn't place it: what's going on with the cab side windows? There's a recessed section where the lower window's supposed to be, but no actual window. It's not actually a window, it's a vanity panel for the unit aesthetics. Usually black, some units have grey ones. Pic from flickr: I would imagine having it as part of the bodyshell before painting black, rather than on the glazing, will give a neater finish once decorated. Jo 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Martin Posted April 7, 2022 Share Posted April 7, 2022 18 minutes ago, Steadfast said: It's not actually a window, it's a vanity panel for the unit aesthetics. Usually black, some units have grey ones. Pic from flickr: I would imagine having it as part of the bodyshell before painting black, rather than on the glazing, will give a neater finish once decorated. Jo Gosh! I must have ridden on 158s hundreds of times and not noticed that. Jim 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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