Gwili railway heritage railway layout oo gauge

[kingfisher9147]

Hi All, I am planning to model my own heritage railway where i help out as a volunteer. The Gwili steam railway. I've decided to go freelance  for the period as with a heritage railway, i can run what is there on the line  both now, the past and the future.  As it on the old Carmarthen to aberystwyth line I can turn it to a full GWR line if I want.  I've chosen the sites of several locations on the railway, BA Mpd, LLC, as it mainly used for events and I can use some of my narrow gauge or n gauge stock for the miniature railway and Conwil.  I have already got a track plan of sorts worked out but things are on hold with lockdown, clearing space to store it.  I am planning to use scenery model railway supplies micro layouts that fits into the christmas tree box. with a fiddle yard each end. I am planning to keep it simple so the picnic area and the bridge are out. I would have done them if it would be a permanent fixed layout than a module one.  I have started to collect the stock for the line, even made a list of what been there and still is there currently which has been some fun finding out about them. I've  even found out some interesting information about what use to run  on the line in GWR days and BR days.    

I will update when I can. I will also put the list up of stock.

mike

Edited October 18, 2022 by kingfisher9147

[kingfisher9147]

So I thought I would put up  THE STOCK list. I can describe the track plan as a main running line with loop with another siding into C&W workshop hopeful, with a line of straight for the miniature railway. 

 

Home Fleet

J94 0-6-0 Austerity  Haulwen, Phoenix The main work horse of the Gwili Fleet (Hornby, Dapol, Airfix)

03 D2178 0-6-0 Diesel (Bachmann)

Olwen 0-4-0 Robert Stephenson & hawthorn (High-level kits, CSP models, Scratch build or adapt r-t-r model)

Abagail 88DS Ruston (Judith Edge kits)

Dmu 117 (Lima, Bachmann)

Aberthaw 0-6-0 Peckett Diesel (Scratch build)

Mond nickel no1  m5 or w 4 0-4-0 Peckett shunter (High-level kits, CSP models, Scratch build or adapt r-t-r model)

 

Loan loco’s

TVR 28 0-6-2 tank loco (3d Print or scratch built)

Moorbarrow 0-6-0 ( 3d Print, Scratch built, or kit bash High level kit Hawthorn Leslie ST)

Manor 2-6-0 tender loco ( Bachmann, Dapol, Mainline)

14xx/48xx  1450 0-4-2 tank engine ( Airfix, Dapol, Hornby)

Class 14 Diesel 0-6-0 ( Teddy Bear)(Heljan)

Jennifer 0-6-0 Tank engine Hudswell Clarke( CSP models)

Panniers 0-6-0 Tank engines 13xx,(1369) 64xx, (6430) 57xx (L92 5786,7752 L94) ( Hornby, Bachmann, Mainline, Model rail,3d Print)

Jinty 0-6-0 Fowler Tank engine  ( Hornby, Triang, Bachmann)

Small Prairie 2-6-2 5541,5549,4566 tank engine( Hornby, Bachmann, Lima, Dapol)

Lms Ivatt 2-6-2 41312 Tank loco ( Bachmann, DJH models)

Hudswell  Clarke 0-6-0 Tank engine (CSP Model)

BR 08 0-6-0 Diesel Shunter (Hornby, Triang, Bachmann, Lima)

J94 Austerity Errol Lonsdale 68011 0-6-0 loco (Hornby, Airfix, Dapol)

0-6-0 PT W.G. Bagnall  Brookfield ( 3D print, Scratch build)

Ivor the Engine Peckett 0-4-0 (High-level kits, CSP models, Scratch build or adapt r-t-r model)

0-6-0 ST HUDSWELL CLARKE PORT TALBOT RAILWAY 813 ( CSP MODELS,HELJIN,KERNOW)

03  D 2069 Diesel 0-6-0 (Bachmann)

 

Loco’s that have left the Railway

J94 Austerity Pamela, Welsh Guardsman (Hornby, Airfix, Dapol)

Merlin 0-4-0 Peckett m6s (High-level kits, CSP models, Scratch build or adapt r-t-r model)

Class 11 BR 0-6-0 Diesel (Adapt 08 model or Heljan)

Sir John 0-6-0 Avonside side tank( CSP models or 3d print or scratch build)

Rosyth no :1 0-4-0 Andrew Barclay ( Hatton’s, DJH Models)

Swansea Victory 0-4-0 Andrew Barclay (Hatton’s, DJH Models)

No 1 0-6-0 Saddle tank Hudswell Clarke ( CSP models)

Idris & Swansea jack 48 ds 0-4-0 Diesel ( Hornby, Judith Edge kits)

Dylan Thomas &  114 0-4-0 Diesel North British (Judith Edge kits)

Nellie Class 02 0-4-0 Diesel ( DJH Models, ALD models)

Trecatty 0-6-0 Ruston and Hornsby diesel( Judith edge kits, kit bashing,3d print or scratch building)

Little Lady w4 Peckett 0-4-0 ST ( Hornby, CSP models)

Swansea vale 1 0-4-0 Sentinel( Rt Models kit-bashing, 3d print or Scratch build)

Sentinel 230 hp 0-4-0 Diesel shunter ( Judith Edge kits, Hornby, Knightwing)

Sentinel 325 hp 0-6-0 Diesel shunter (Judith edge kits, Knight wing)

North British/Man 330hp 0-4-0dh Diesel Shunter 27878,27914( Judith Edge KITS)

Rail Speeder inspection car (3d print, Scratch build)

Pump Tolley (Springside, 3d print)

 

With the carriages, I have got all the type on the ones that are on the Gwili both past and present. I have got the Taff vale Coaches in kit form waiting to be done.

Wagons are a mix bag and I have got nearly all of them that are on the railway with few from my other railway box.

 

The locos I have got all ready waiting to be renamed and painted are,

Welsh Guardsman

Haulwen

Phoenix

57 xx L92

Olwen

Class 117

03 diesel 2178,2069

Small praire 5541

14xx 1466,1436

57xx 5741

Hymek class 35

Class 37

GWR rail car

class 37

Manor

collect goods.

RRV excovator.

 

[kingfisher9147]

Not much to update at present due to many different things delayed by covid-19, which is a shame when you want to get on with things but that is life. I have been repainting one of my J94s into the colour of Phoenix which use to belong to the Swansea vale railway before moving to the Gwili. I am slowly building a pair of Dogfish wagons which were on the line at one point before being sold but are back with a shark to help with ballast work. I am also building a model of the tea rooms from ratio ground coach body's and also doing a toad done as Santa grotto during some of the early christmas at the gwili. I thought I would add some photo's of the locos so far and the RRV excavator I have just finished based on the one at the gwili.

https://flic.kr/s/aHsmUXzimz

mike 

[kingfisher9147]

Track plan of LLC, so from the plan you can see. the main running line with with loop and hopeful a siding into C&W WORKSHOP. there is a plan to put in a bit of 009 to act as 7 1/4 inch gauge but might have another think about that part. the board is  1657 mm longs by 221mm wide with the height at 250mm.

Edited April 18, 2021 by kingfisher9147

[kingfisher9147]

Phoenix, a Dapol J94. been repainted into the blue livery from being black. Some  detail work to do before it can go into passenger service. 

[kingfisher9147]

Like with everything at the moment there are delay's in starting due to shortage which is not a bad thing really as it given me more time to test my models outs but also do more research into the area and what run there before it came a heritage railway, been able to find a fair bit out. My loco list has expanded more and a up to date one will go up in due course. here are some pictures of the station during it use as a heritage line. Not happy with some of my kit stock, so looking for R-T-R which I can find. the kit ones will be ok for siding's than running.

Edited July 7, 2021 by kingfisher9147

[kingfisher9147]

[kingfisher9147]

The boards are due monday, so hopeful can make a start. But I have been researching the traffic on the line in GWR/BR DAYS, and think I have got some idea of what goods and passenger working happen on the line. 

Until I am next at my model club where there should still be a copy of Bradshaw guide, I have been going through two book The manchester and Miford railway by oakwood press and the Aberystwyth to carmarthen book by middleton press. Both have been really helpful but the one that middleton press have done helps more by putting some OS maps which does gives you some idea of what was in the area, well worth getting!

 I have worked out from it and from what people have said on this thread what traffic there was a lot of it guess work.

 

Woolen mills- incoming wool,dye,equipment, coal. outgoing Cloth, blankets etc?

Implement Factory- incoming metal,wood,coal, equipment. outgoing  water wheels,equipment, scrap.

Flannel factory- incoming cloth,dye,equipment, coal. outgoing flannel shirts mainly.

corn mill- incoming corn,equipment,coal. Outgoing flour,corn syrup?

pencader-Chemical works -incoming coal, chemicals, equipment. outgoing chemicals

Quarry incoming- coal,gunpowder,equipment. outgoing,stone,road stone,lead.

Gravel pit incoming coal,gunpowder,equipment. outgoing gravel.

Sewage works incoming coal,equipment,stones, outgoing?

 

Farming ,lime,coal,timber,meat,fruit,veg,household items,milk, fish,peat,fuel,brick, sand, rope, netting material, charcoal.

Special trains tar,gas, acid, Ammo, house moving ,bulky items being delivered e.g bed,road transport, cattle,horses,sheep,pigs.

 

Passenger trains

Butlins

circus bertram mills

school train

Special day trips

Church college train? lampeter

news papers

mail

royal train

inspector train

prisoner escort

football train

troop train

Fair train

university trains?

 

mike

[Nevermakeit]

59 minutes ago, kingfisher9147 said:

The boards are due monday, so hopeful can make a start. But I have been researching the traffic on the line in GWR/BR DAYS, and think I have got some idea of what goods and passenger working happen on the line. 

Until I am next at my model club where there should still be a copy of Bradshaw guide, I have been going through two book The manchester and Miford railway by oakwood press and the Aberystwyth to carmarthen book by middleton press. Both have been really helpful but the one that middleton press have done helps more by putting some OS maps which does gives you some idea of what was in the area, well worth getting!

 I have worked out from it and from what people have said on this thread what traffic there was a lot of it guess work.

 

Woolen mills- incoming wool,dye,equipment, coal. outgoing Cloth, blankets etc?

Implement Factory- incoming metal,wood,coal, equipment. outgoing  water wheels,equipment, scrap.

Flannel factory- incoming cloth,dye,equipment, coal. outgoing flannel shirts mainly.

corn mill- incoming corn,equipment,coal. Outgoing flour,corn syrup?

pencader-Chemical works -incoming coal, chemicals, equipment. outgoing chemicals

Quarry incoming- coal,gunpowder,equipment. outgoing,stone,road stone,lead.

Gravel pit incoming coal,gunpowder,equipment. outgoing gravel.

Sewage works incoming coal,equipment,stones, outgoing?

 

Farming ,lime,coal,timber,meat,fruit,veg,household items,milk, fish,peat,fuel,brick, sand, rope, netting material, charcoal.

Special trains tar,gas, acid, Ammo, house moving ,bulky items being delivered e.g bed,road transport, cattle,horses,sheep,pigs.

 

Passenger trains

Butlins

circus bertram mills

school train

Special day trips

Church college train? lampeter

news papers

mail

royal train

inspector train

prisoner escort

football train

troop train

Fair train

university trains?

 

mike

Are you making your own boards, or have you bought ready-made ones? Thanks. 

[kingfisher9147]

1 hour ago, Nevermakeit said:

Are you making your own boards, or have you bought ready-made ones? Thanks. 

Bought them from scale model scenery micro layout ones. The ones that fit into a 6ft Christmas tree box. 

[kingfisher9147]

The boards have come and now seeing which model shop has got track. Going to be using model tech track joiners to help with power supply between each board. Doing one boring but most important job to do measuring up stock to work out the length of the train fiddle yard to see I have got to order more boards. Work in progress Rosyth no1 in working order when at gwili. Hattons model. 

[kingfisher9147]

Worked out how many board's I will need to order, it will be 8 altogether 4 each side. After measuring with my longest loco and a coach did I work on my shelf test board did I found a formula for how mand boards will be needed. Both together were about 30 inches which left 5 inches left on 1 of the shelves board which showed me how much longer I needed. 

[kingfisher9147]

I have ordered the fiddle yard boards but had to send them back due to warping whilst they had been kept at courier depot near something warm. A real shame at least they could be replaced. A rare find 1906 OS Maps covering the line from Carmarthen to Newcastle Emlyn very interesting items. 

[kingfisher9147]

I have gone through the 16 OS Maps and found one which is still in use as the Gwili Railway main station. I am going to get copies done to protect them, find some suitable accommodation for them. 

Mike 

[Nevermakeit]

It is great to have this sort of detail available. 

[kingfisher9147]

24 minutes ago, Nevermakeit said:

It is great to have this sort of detail available. 

Yes it is, was pure luck finding them

[kingfisher9147]

I have ordered the track but in part's to spread the cost but it is a start.  One new unit to join the gwili roster if it happened is a class 142 pacer Hornby one which with help from some fellow modellers have we got it running smooth. 5526 is due to come to the railway, be nice to see small prairie again on gwili metals. I have sent a loco off for being built to mountain Ash loco no 1 Hudswell clarke 0-6-0. https://images.app.goo.gl/JVVJ9vN9agjXBcTCA

[kingfisher9147]

Like every thing, the build is on hold for the moment. Since my last post I have been working at the railway and it is surprising how you can forget to do some modelling. I have been adding more information on the railway in my research file which has helped me with what trains did run on the line. Found the in the railway book shed in the book 'the teifi Valley railway' by Roger padfield and barrie burgess. It covers all the railway companies that had used the line with what motive power some of which model companies made. They is some information errors but can't be always right. I heard from one source that a class 52 western did once run on the line love to find out if it was true. Done some coupling repairs on some stock but they don't seem to all run happily but can find a use for them. There's talk of a HST power car coming to the railway but weather it will run is another story. A couple of J72 and J83 acting as visitors for standby models. Would love to model the Christmas train with lights but in OO gauge I don't think there's something suitable on the market. 

Mike 

[kingfisher9147]

Some testing stock Photo's to share with you . These will be running on LLC but to save them from being stuck in the draw and box, I thought I give them a test run at SRMG Swansea railway model group.

Diesel line up class 08,03,20

Andrew Barclay Victory and AEC railcar

Aec Railcar

Line up of J94's Right to left of the photo Haulwen in green, Phoenix in blue, Welsh Guardsman in black with lamp on front Visitor from the lner.

I hope to get some of the christmas train when I am at the railway next. 

mike

 

[kingfisher9147]

Quite moment at the gwili.

[kingfisher9147]

Gone to mark out the track plan but as usual something has happened to change the plan. Luckily I had not fully put them together but just using the flat tops of the boards to make it easier to put things out. Busy time with Christmas but gots some pictures of the train in action which I was lucky to get due to carparking duty not for the fainthearted. Got some new carriage and a peckett w4 for Christmas. Got to do a new stock take on what I have got. Shame the Manor I had ordered is delayed due to covid. Some of the locomotives were on ITV Wales news. 

Mike 

[kingfisher9147]

The tamper has come to do work. OK not like the real one that is due to work but close enough. 

Mike 

[kingfisher9147]

The Gwili Railway answer to Blackpool at christmas. the valley of lights

 

[6990WitherslackHall]

I've heard of the Gwili Railway but I've not been to it as it's too far away for me.

 

I'm also modelling part of a preserved railway: the North Yorkshire Moors Railway which stretches from Pickering to Grosmont and Whitby. I'm modelling a part of Grosmont MPD: the wheel drop and the two storage sidings behind it.

 

 

If you want to have a look, I've put the link here:

 

https://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/169772-grosmont-mpd-micro-layout/#comment-4725373

 

[kingfisher9147]

On 31/01/2022 at 17:42, 6990WitherslackHall said:

I've heard of the Gwili Railway but I've not been to it as it's too far away for me.

 

I'm also modelling part of a preserved railway: the North Yorkshire Moors Railway which stretches from Pickering to Grosmont and Whitby. I'm modelling a part of Grosmont MPD: the wheel drop and the two storage sidings behind it.

 

 

If you want to have a look, I've put the link here:

 

https://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/169772-grosmont-mpd-micro-layout/#comment-4725373

 

I have heard of the nymr. Love to visit one day, perhaps you should have a chat with the nymr and see if you can have access or help with your layout planning.