Wickham Green too Posted October 2, 2021 Share Posted October 2, 2021 A THREE-link variant would be more appropriate for the vast majority of British goods wagons - but I guess we're unlikely to see that ! 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted October 2, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 2, 2021 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Wickham Green too said: A THREE-link variant would be more appropriate for the vast majority of British goods wagons - but I guess we're unlikely to see that ! Not a problem with the chaldrons with their lower buffer height but otherwise a plug-into-the-NEM-socket coupling doesn't get over the fundamental problem of the coupling being a scale 18" or so below the level of the drawbar hook! It's not as if that problem hasn't been solved before, albeit at a larger scale: Edited October 2, 2021 by Compound2632 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
black and decker boy Posted October 2, 2021 Share Posted October 2, 2021 A few more images on this slideshow (plus lovely industrial grunge too) Seaham Harbour Slideshow by adgenyer 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted October 2, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 2, 2021 Apropos of my earlier comment about the distorted buffer centres on an 00 chaldron, I suppose with buffers like these, one can't miss: [Embedded link.] I note that my enquiry about which other dimensions have been adjusted to compensate for the too-narrow back-to-back is as yet unanswered... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Accurascale Fran Posted October 2, 2021 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted October 2, 2021 35 minutes ago, Compound2632 said: I note that my enquiry about which other dimensions have been adjusted to compensate for the too-narrow back-to-back is as yet unanswered... They’re quite subtle as it’s not noticeable through high res pics? We don’t always have to reveal all our secrets. Cheers! Fran 4 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickham Green too Posted October 2, 2021 Share Posted October 2, 2021 2 hours ago, Compound2632 said: ...... doesn't get over the fundamental problem of the coupling being a scale 18" or so below the level of the drawbar hook! Just one of the reasons we're unlikely to see them ! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted October 2, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 2, 2021 27 minutes ago, Accurascale Fran said: We don’t always have to reveal all our secrets. Well, they'll be revealed the moment someone gets the chance to run a ruler over a sample! Are they narrower than scale at the top? Are they scale length? 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Islesy Posted October 2, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 2, 2021 Well, as I’ve been on the go since 5:00am, been at GETS talking to our customers, old and new, and now finally getting to head back home to East Kent, I hope you’ll allow me some time to wind down and enjoy what is left of the weekend @Compound2632 before I get around to answering your queries? 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted October 2, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 2, 2021 11 minutes ago, Islesy said: Well, as I’ve been on the go since 5:00am, been at GETS talking to our customers, old and new, and now finally getting to head back home to East Kent, I hope you’ll allow me some time to wind down and enjoy what is left of the weekend @Compound2632 before I get around to answering your queries? Ah well, if it weren't for lack of petrol I'd have been there myself tomorrow, on the Midland Railway Society Stand. Sleep well! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
45568 Posted October 3, 2021 Share Posted October 3, 2021 Hi Fran, I have just placed an order for two sets of chaldrons into my cart. I am in Western Australia. When it comes to checkout there is no VAT deduction. Is this correct? Also, if I wish to order loads for these wagons when they are available, will it be possible to combine orders for one lot of postage? Inspired choice by the way, please thank Mr. Isles! Cheers, Peter Chandler 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold McC Posted October 3, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 3, 2021 13 minutes ago, 45568 said: Hi Fran, I have just placed an order for two sets of chaldrons into my cart. I am in Western Australia. When it comes to checkout there is no VAT deduction. Is this correct? Also, if I wish to order loads for these wagons when they are available, will it be possible to combine orders for one lot of postage? Inspired choice by the way, please thank Mr. Isles! Cheers, Peter Chandler Hi Peter, Our website only shows VAT inc prices if you are shopping from inside the UK. (inc. VAT is appended on screen). Otherwise it's smart enough to know you are outside the UK and show you the ex VAT price. We hope to confirm the loads in the coming weeks, and yes, if you order some, drop us a line to merge the parcels! Hope that helps! Stephen 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
45568 Posted October 3, 2021 Share Posted October 3, 2021 8 minutes ago, McC said: Hi Peter, Our website only shows VAT inc prices if you are shopping from inside the UK. (inc. VAT is appended on screen). Otherwise it's smart enough to know you are outside the UK and show you the ex VAT price. We hope to confirm the loads in the coming weeks, and yes, if you order some, drop us a line to merge the parcels! Hope that helps! Stephen Thank you Stephen, I'll go forward with it! Cheers from Oz, Peter C. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmrspaul Posted October 3, 2021 Share Posted October 3, 2021 On 01/10/2021 at 17:37, Islesy said: Well, how about riding on the back of an 1898 16ft ex-LSWR 'lift van'@Wickham Green, does that count? 60020 even spent time in your neck of the woods from September 1927 (picture courtesy of my good friend Mike King) Sorry I suspect I gave that photo to Mike King to use in a book, not to be spread around without copyright acknowledgement. Photographs are pointless if they don't have dates and places on them - not least if you interpret as you have done despite the clear NRM stencil. Paul Bartlett Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Islesy Posted October 3, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 3, 2021 (edited) 13 minutes ago, hmrspaul said: Photographs are pointless if they don't have dates and places on them Indeed Paul, and as you know, I value your contributions, however I was unaware of your contribution and believed it to be part of Mike’s collection. Regardless of the fact that the Lift Wagon had, by this point, been absorbed into the NRM’s collection, something I was entirely aware of, the fact is that the wagon is ex-LSWR, and the reply was given in a light hearted matter regarding a ‘Southern’ connection as I’m sure everyone knows. There is always room for humour within the hobby and online, it counteracts various other tendencies… As it has caused you offence, I have removed the photo from the original post, hopefully that will sit better with you. Edited October 3, 2021 by Islesy 3 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmrspaul Posted October 3, 2021 Share Posted October 3, 2021 41 minutes ago, Islesy said: Indeed Paul, and as you know, I value your contributions, however I was unaware of your contribution and believed it to be part of Mike’s collection. Regardless of the fact that the Lift Wagon had, by this point, been absorbed into the NRM’s collection, something I was entirely aware of, the fact is that the wagon is ex-LSWR, and the reply was given in a light hearted matter regarding a ‘Southern’ connection as I’m sure everyone knows. There is always room for humour within the hobby and online, it counteracts various other tendencies… As it has caused you offence, I have removed the photo from the original post, hopefully that will sit better with you. Paul Thanks. There is a better southern connection, two were on show at the Bluebell Railway seen in 1975, I believe they have been moved north since, but there are so many conserved chaldrons on the listings I'm not sure if they do still exist. https://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/bluebell/e1d3a9b37 Paul 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandhole Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 On 02/10/2021 at 09:40, Accurascale Fran said: Seaham, 1952. Milo is a beauty. Cheers! Fran I think Milo was a proposed Chilton Ironworks Kit. AH Well, no point in dwelling what might have been. Chris. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkC Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 3 minutes ago, Sandhole said: I think Milo was a proposed Chilton Ironworks Kit. AH Well, no point in dwelling what might have been. Chris. Was Milo a "Long Boiler" type loco? As Chilton Ironworks once did a '1001', it would have shared the same chassis then. As you say, no point dwelling... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandhole Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 10 minutes ago, MarkC said: Was Milo a "Long Boiler" type loco? As Chilton Ironworks once did a '1001', it would have shared the same chassis then. As you say, no point dwelling... Yes, I think Milo was Long Boiler. I may be getting my locos mixed up, it may be 1001 I'm thinking of. The Lambton RSH 0-6-2s and the NSR New L Class are the kits I really wish had happened. Chris. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandhole Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 The 'Lewin Engine' would be the loco of choice for these wagons. I'm lucky enough to be running an Impetus Lewin. Even more eldritch would be an S&D Hackworth 0-6-0 with the two tenders. Now that would be a beast! Chris. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irishswissernie Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 'Milo' and 'Mars' photo below also from my Ernie's Railway Archive, were ex NER 964 Class locos. Milo RS2241/75 ex NER nos 972 & 1662 was acquired by the Dock Co 8 July 1907 and Mars RS2238/75 ex NER nos. 969 & 1661 acquired 11 Dec 1908. Both scrapped 1963 Info from Industrial Railways & Locos of County Durham IRS. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mol_PMB Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 They look great! This strikes me as a project that would scale up well to 7mm too? And/or could spin off an "MSC" side-tipping variant as used widely on contractors' railways, and with very similar chassis and wheels? 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted October 4, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 4, 2021 1 hour ago, Irishswissernie said: 'Milo' and 'Mars' photo below also from my Ernie's Railway Archive, were ex NER 964 Class locos. Milo RS2241/75 ex NER nos 972 & 1662 was acquired by the Dock Co 8 July 1907 and Mars RS2238/75 ex NER nos. 969 & 1661 acquired 11 Dec 1908. Both scrapped 1963 Info from Industrial Railways & Locos of County Durham IRS. The nomenclature Class 964 is weird since No. 964 was the third (in running number order) of the last batch of 20, built as noted above by Stephensons in 1875; the first of the class being Nos. 776-80 from Black, Hawthorn in 1872, followed by Nos. 854-8 in 1873 and then Nos. 859-78 from Stephensons the following year [K. Hoole, An Illustrated History of NER Locomotives (OPC, 1988)]. Hoole notes the various renumberings and rebuilding of some of the class into rather E-ish form in 1892/3 as Class 964A. Hoole notes that in January 1893 Class 964 No. 966 was renumbered 1754 and Class 964A No. 875 was renumbered No. 966. So No. 966 was a characteristically Fletcher long-boiler 0-6-0ST one day and a conventional Worsdellesque 0-6-0T a few days later. Just as well there were no spotters' ABCs back then! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mel_H Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 On 02/10/2021 at 15:07, black and decker boy said: A few more images on this slideshow (plus lovely industrial grunge too) Seaham Harbour Slideshow by adgenyer And here's a really remarkable bit of film - chauldrons still in use after almost 100 years. The system was so labour-intensive and antiquated. It's a great shame that the [remains] of the surviving staithes in Newcastle aren't better protected. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Colin_McLeod Posted October 4, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 4, 2021 Question for Accurascale. If I buy two identical packs will there be appropriate fonted transfers available for renumbering one of tbe packs? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Islesy Posted October 4, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 4, 2021 (edited) ‘Fraid not Colin, at least, not from us, sorry! Edited October 4, 2021 by Islesy 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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