Graham Farish 2021 Winter announcements

[AY Mod]

Graham Farish

 

ITEM NO. SCALE DESCRIPTION RRP

 

371-051D N Class 04 D2289 BR Blue £129.95

371-052A N Class 04 11219 BR Black (Early Emblem) £129.95

371-055 N Class 04 D2225 BR Green (Late Crest) £129.95

371-061A N Class 03 D2028 BR Green (Wasp Stripes) £129.95

371-062A N Class 03 03026 BR Blue £129.95

371-065 N Class 03 Ex-D2054 British Industrial Sand White £139.95

Graham GrahamG

371-336 N Class 150/1 2-Car DMU 150133 BR GMPTE (Regional Railways) £239.95

371-336SF N Class 150/1 2-Car DMU 150133 BR GMPTE (Regional Railways) £339.95

371-508SF N Class 101 2-Car DMU BR Green (Speed Whiskers) £309.95

374-713 N BR Mk2 TSO Tourist Second Open BR RTC (Revised) £44.95

36-571 n/a 6 Pin Micro DCC Loco-Decoder (with Brake Button function) £44.95

 

Scenecraft

 

RRP Price List 2021 ITEM NO. SCALE DESCRIPTION RRP

 

42-0064 N Parachute Water Tower £34.95

42-110 N Nissen Hut £15.95

42-128 N Fuelling Point Pump House £29.95

42-139 N Shunters Mess Room £43.95

42-186 N Great Central Water Tower £27.95

42-513 N Modern Toilet (x2) £19.95

 

 

 

42-560 N Lineside Cabinets (x4) £9.95

42-593 N Concrete Bus Shelter £10.95

42-596 N Small Kiosk £9.95

[woodenhead]

Think I will bite on an 03 and then attempt to make my other shunters work on DCC as well.

[bmthtrains - David]

Fitting DCC in an 03 is certainly an achievement, and suggests how popular DCC presumably now is. 
 

Another difficult announcement for Bachmann regarding Farish though, as while again no new major models have been revealed, as they mention in the video there has been a continual stream of previously announced new releases throughout the year. The backlog certainly seems to be behind the lack of further announcements, but they really could do themselves a favour by highlighting the new products that have already arrived or are due as it just plays into the narrative that they don’t care about the scale any more, which is far from true.

 

Those gorgeous OO 90s really do need the shrink ray applied as well - surely they would be a stronger seller in N than the forthcoming class 319? 
 

The 150s also look like the chassis block no longer fills half a carriage, another example of the steady upgrade of models to allow for DCC sound I presume?

 

David

[Crepello]

Just the black 04 for me I think.

[Kris]

4 minutes ago, bmthtrains - David said:

The backlog certainly seems to be behind the lack of further announcements,

 

How many years is this a reasonable excuse? We have been hearing this since Bachmann / Farish went to quarterly announcements. 

 

It's lucky that there are other manufactures who are supporting N gauge. 

[TomE]

Good to see the 03 & 04 get DCC sockets, a nice update and much needed especially in the face of the NGS Hunslet. The GMPTE 150 is a surprise and the Mk.2A TSO could be useful for those wanting more common liveries and are willing to repaint. It would have been better in bog standard BR blue though I feel. 

 

I guess the lack of mention of the 319 means we won't be seeing that until early next year now? 

 

And at least modern image modellers have some bang up to date toilets to go with the previous 1980's version...

 

Tom. 

[montyburns56]

While it's good that Farish have listened to the cries for another run of their MK2 TSO coaches I don't think that they were listening properly....

Edited November 3, 2021 by montyburns56

[John M Upton]

I am tempted by a blue 03 I must say.  Hopefully the RTC Mk2 TSO means a fresh run in other liveries is on the way too.

[jonas]

Here’s hoping the 03/4 means a DCC ready 08 chassis will make an appearance sooner rather than later too!

[Steven B]

Being positive, there's more for N Gauge modellers in this announcement than the last two (with at least one model I'd buy - time to start saving!).

 

I'm surprised an RTC liveried Mk2a TSO features higher on their to-do list than a re-run of plain Blue/Grey ones though...

 

I do feel that it's a great shame that Bachmann have let the 50th anniversary of the Graham Farish brand pass with barely any mention. I wasn't expecting the likes of Hornby's Rocket, APT and retro boxes, but something more than repaints of existing models would have been nice...

 

Steven B.

[TomE]

40 minutes ago, Steven B said:

I'm surprised an RTC liveried Mk2a TSO features higher on their to-do list than a re-run of plain Blue/Grey ones though...

It's a strange choice isn't it. You'd think if they have limited production slots available for N Gauge, for whatever reason, they would choose to do the basic liveries that people need to replicate everyday formations  But on the plus side, as mentioned above, if you're happy to repaint at least you'll actually be able to get hold of a TSO now. 

Tom.  

[Steven B]

To be fair there are other Mk2a working their way thought Bachmann's backlog:

374-680B    BR Mk2A BSO Brake Second Open BR Blue & Grey

374-712      BR Mk2A TSO Tourist Second Open BR Regional Railways

 

Both of these are due Jan/Feb 2022 along side the RTC liveried version.

 

Wouldn't it be nice if they also did a blue/grey TSO and Regional Railways BSO whilst they've got the tools and paints out?

 

Steven B.

 

 

Edited November 3, 2021 by Steven B

[scottystitch]

In fairness, we haven't seen the "Also arriving this quarter" lists yet... This is just the not previously announced announcement.

 

Best

Scott.

[Paul.Uni]

27 minutes ago, scottystitch said:

In fairness, we haven't seen the "Also arriving this quarter" lists yet... This is just the not previously announced announcement.

 

Best

Scott.

We have, the Bachmann website gives release dates until 'May/Jun' for models announced in 2019 or earlier.

Edited November 3, 2021 by Paul.Uni

[scottystitch]

My experience is that that is not particularly accurate, but yes fair enough.

 

Best

Scott.

[woodenhead]

2 hours ago, Steven B said:

Being positive, there's more for N Gauge modellers in this announcement than the last two (with at least one model I'd buy - time to start saving!).

 

I'm surprised an RTC liveried Mk2a TSO features higher on their to-do list than a re-run of plain Blue/Grey ones though...

 

I do feel that it's a great shame that Bachmann have let the 50th anniversary of the Graham Farish brand pass with barely any mention. I wasn't expecting the likes of Hornby's Rocket, APT and retro boxes, but something more than repaints of existing models would have been nice...

 

Steven B.

Maybe it is outside of their control though, we know there are production problems now across many industries due to shortages be it raw materials or power, maybe they've had to put it off.

 

It's interesting there was the GBRF Graham Farish class 60 (not a model) - that didn't spring from nowhere, it was planned, so perhaps Bachmann had other stuff planned, like a GBRF class 60 but have not been able to deliver it in 2021.

[Stuart A]

I'll be getting the RTC coach, and I'l love to be able to afford the 150 in RR GMPTE, but I'll have to wait to see if it's discounted in time.  Think the only thing I'm dissapointed not to see is shrunk EFE Tiger Clay PBAs, but as the JIAs didn't arrive in the promised 3 month window from announcement, hopefully they might become a 2022 release.

 

Really supprised that GBRF 60002 "Graham Farish – 50th Anniversary 1970 - 2020" wasn't announced, I'm sure it was implied in a previous video that it was on the cards, but the 2021 boat has sailed to make that possible in the anniversary year. 

 

At least it will give me chance to pay off my Revolution balance payments.....

Edited November 4, 2021 by Stuart A
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[D9020 Nimbus]

1 hour ago, Stuart A said:

Really supprised that GBRF 60002 "Graham Farish – 50th Anniversary 1970 - 2020" wasn't announced, I'm sure it was implied in a previous video that it was on the cards, but the 2021 boat has sailed to make that possible in the anniversary year. 

It was mentioned in a previous video. No doubt it was intended to arrive this year but COVID and supply chain delays have seen to that — it's intended to be a sound upgrade.

Edited November 3, 2021 by D9020 Nimbus
Correction

[Davexoc]

5 hours ago, Stuart A said:

eally supprised that GBRF 60002 "Graham Farish – 50th Anniversary 1970 - 2020" wasn't announced, I'm sure it was implied in a previous video that it was on the cards, but the 2021 boat has sailed to make that possible in the anniversary year. 

 

Not by NGS standards. The Hunslet shunter was the 50th Anniversary model, the anniversary year was 2017.....

[msw2009]

37 minutes ago, Davexoc said:

 

Not by NGS standards. The Hunslet shunter was the 50th Anniversary model, the anniversary year was 2017.....

 

This is true, but (and I'm referring specifically to n gauge here, although the same may well be the case for other gauges) pretty much every manufacturer has experienced fairly considerable delays with at least some of their releases in the last few years for a variety of well discussed reasons - developments in Chinese manufacturing practice, Brexit, Covid, supply chain crises, shortages of and rising costs of raw materials, wages etc. to name just a few.  Admittedly in some cases (and Dapol's WC / BoB is looming large in my mind as I write this) the delays are to some degree self inflicted, it's often the case that global events completely beyond a producer's control have conspired against them.  It's been a pretty challenging few years for Farish / Bachmann, Dapol and the NGS and even the brilliant newer entrants to the market - Revolution, Sonic etc have seen some delivery times stretch to a level way beyond what they'd anticipated and planned for.

 

I think the Farish 319, which is due early 2022, was announced in 2016 - quite a wait and although it's a little outside my timeframe, I'll definitely be picking one up.  We can reasonably question some of the decisions that manufacturers make on which models to prioritise (do we really need a RTC TSO before any one of countless blue/grey, green, maroon, choc & cream mk1s?), but I take the view that rather than bash them (and any other n gauge producers) for taking so long to get a model on the shelves, I'm just grateful that, in the climate of the last few years, they've made the effort to (hopefully shortly) get it there at all.

 

Getting back to the NGS Hunslet - I think the Society have stuck their necks on the line a little with this and should be highly commended for it.  I can't wait for mine to arrive.  I wonder if the DCC ready 03s and 04s would have appeared quite so soon if the NGS hadn't broken some considerable ground.

 

Mark

  

[njee20]

The model of 60002 is pending the sound upgrade of the chassis; to that end I’m not sure they ever said it would be this year, but it feels ridiculous that the real railway has done a better job of acknowledging the anniversary than the parent company!

 

I’ll still have one when it shows up, but it’s hard not to feel a bit underwhelmed. 

[grahame]

10 hours ago, njee20 said:

it’s hard not to feel a bit underwhelmed. 

 

Definitely. That's the comment of the thread. And an appropriate epithet on the recent Farish announcements.

 

 

[Calnefoxile]

21 hours ago, Steven B said:

To be fair there are other Mk2a working their way thought Bachmann's backlog:

374-680B    BR Mk2A BSO Brake Second Open BR Blue & Grey

374-712      BR Mk2A TSO Tourist Second Open BR Regional Railways

 

Both of these are due Jan/Feb 2022 along side the RTC liveried version.

 

Wouldn't it be nice if they also did a blue/grey TSO and Regional Railways BSO whilst they've got the tools and paints out?

 

Steven B.

 

 

 

Steve,

 

That would imply that there's logic involved!!!!!

 

Cheers

 

Neal.

[Paul.Uni]

Quote

Oct/Nov
LMS inspection saloons X3
TTA X3
LMS brake vans X4

 

Dec/Jan
150 X4
MK1 BG X4
BR ventilated vans X3
BR insulated vans X3
LNER ventilated vans X3

 

Jan/Feb
101 X3
MK2A X2
Coach packs X2 (374-996 BR Scotrail, 374-995 BR Highland Rail Green & Cream)
MR brake vans X3

 

Feb/Mar
319 X3
JPA X2

 

Mar/Apr
08 X2
BR 20T brake vans X3

 

Apr/May
37 X7

 

May/Jun
MK1 suburbans X5
LMS full brakes X2
24T hopper wagons X3
Conflat wagons X6

The list I did in August with the release date info from the Bachmann Website (I don't think that info has changed since then).

 

I've used the info from the Winter '21 club magazine to show the models that are mentioned as recent arrival in the works report (those in italics) and the models listed as due Winter 21/22 (those in red).

 

Also shown in the works report:

• Livery sample of 60002 'Graham Farish'
• Livery artwork for the class 47 in Colas and RES liveries
• EPs for the modified BR 5MT and class 14

Edited November 4, 2021 by Paul.Uni

[fezza]

A well-known retailer recently had second-hand blue/grey Mk2a TSOs for sale at £70 each....

 

I've never understood by BachFarish don't produce more of the bread and butter stuff that people need for everyday operations rather than rare items in very unusual liveries.  I guess they think the rare exotic items appeal to collectors, but the fact these stick around for ages, while blue/grey TSO attract a premium on the second-hand market should surely give them a hint about what the market wants?