A statement on The Titfield Thunderbolt.

[rapidoandy]

Well there does seem to have been a lot of talk around the who issue of where will actually be producing models.

 

Obviously whilst I cannot say a lot I can say that we have been assured that our range of Titfield Thunderbolt packs will be the ONLY models to come onto the market as per our agreement with Studiocanal.

 

Happy Easter!

Edited April 14, 2022 by rapidoandy

[Gordon Connell]

I see that Studio Canal have successfully registered the trade mark for The Titfield Thunderbolt. https://trademarks.ipo.gov.uk/ipo-tmcase/page/Results/1/UK00003743445 

[Mike_Walker]

Where does this leave a much respected purveyor of books I wonder?

[Compound2632]

13 minutes ago, Mike_Walker said:

Where does this leave a much respected purveyor of books I wonder?

 

Prior use, I should think.

[PaulRhB]

55 minutes ago, Mike_Walker said:

Where does this leave a much respected purveyor of books I wonder?

It would be a tad ironic considering the film and less open to ridicule to Ignore that or quietly give a limited license 😉

 

It’s quite different to the license to manufacture goods from the film not that it stops some from trying it on. 

Edited May 18, 2022 by PaulRhB

[NHY 581]

Oh dear me, NO! 

 

If this is to degenerate into spouting about who can use the name, licences etc then perhaps the mods can just cut and paste the first twenty pages (or dip into the relevant  or irrelevant, as you see fit, Hornby thread) to save those that might be so disposed the trouble of doing so.............

 

The Sheepflock Titbleat. 

Edited May 18, 2022 by NHY 581

[PaulRhB]

Don’t worry Rob I was just musing on the irony if taking on the little guy ;) 

 

[Coach bogie]

On 18/05/2022 at 14:51, Gordon Connell said:

I see that Studio Canal have successfully registered the trade mark for The Titfield Thunderbolt. https://trademarks.ipo.gov.uk/ipo-tmcase/page/Results/1/UK00003743445 

Interesting they only registered the name, earlier this year. 

 

Mike Wiltshire

[Mark Saunders]

On 20/05/2022 at 01:42, Coach bogie said:

Interesting they only registered the name, earlier this year. 

 

Mike Wiltshire

Remember in the early days of privatisation’ Northern Spirit ‘ and the unregistered name being used by a Scottish company prior to MTL.

[5Dublo2]

On 20/05/2022 at 01:42, Coach bogie said:

Interesting they only registered the name, earlier this year. 

 

Mike Wiltshire

Which brings in the legal differences between Trade Mark and Copyright (and that a Copyright is more or less automatic but a Trade Mark has to be registered)

The Copyright of a film (and I guess unique elements within the film ) expires 70 years after the death of the last surviving author, director, writer or composer - or if these are unknown 70 years after the creation/public release. So the film itself was almost certainly still within Copyright control. Then when the 'fun' began in January Studio Canal decided to start the process to register the name as a Trade Mark (strengthening and possibly extended their legal position when it was officially registered)

 

Edited May 23, 2022 by 5Dublo2

[PaulRhB]

48 minutes ago, 5Dublo2 said:

Which brings in the legal differences between Trade Mark and Copywrite (and that a Copywrite is more or less automatic but a Trade Mark has to be registered)

The Copywrite of a film (and I guess unique elements within the film ) expires 70 years after the death of the last surviving author, director, writer or composer - or if these are unknown 70 years after the creation/public release. So the film itself was almost certainly still within Copywrite control. Then when the 'fun' began in January Studio Canal decided to start the process to register the name as a Trade Mark (strengthening and possibly extended their legal position when it was officially registered)


 

As Rob alluded to see Andy’s post on page one and pages 19-25 where that’s discussed from January. 

Edited May 22, 2022 by PaulRhB

[Helmdon]

On 22/05/2022 at 08:46, 5Dublo2 said:

The Copywrite of a film (and I guess unique elements within the film ) expires 70 years after the death of the last surviving author, director, writer or composer - or if these are unknown 70 years after the creation/public release. So the film itself was almost certainly still within Copywrite control.
 

Not only extensively discussed already, but also The Titfield Thunderbolt is a singularly bad vintage film to try it on with given the copyright situation - its director died in, er, 1999. So there's no 'almost certainly' about it!

[Compound2632]

it's a right, not something written.

[2mmMark]

1 hour ago, Compound2632 said:

it's a right, not something written.

Not even from a copywriter? 😉

As the saying goes, two writes do make a wrong.

 

[Compound2632]

17 minutes ago, 2mmMark said:

Not even from a copywriter? 😉

As the saying goes, two writes do make a wrong.

 

Does a copywriter have copyright in the copy they have written?

[Downer]

2 hours ago, Compound2632 said:

 

Does a copywriter have copyright in the copy they have written?

No.

[Compound2632]

I suppose someone who composes a correct liturgical text could be said to write the right rite.

[Downer]

No, Wright writes is the right rite. Right?

[Matt C]

On 23/05/2022 at 16:19, Downer said:

No, Wright writes is the right rite. Right?

 

Your not wrong 👌

[Michael Hodgson]

As I explained to my colleagues when working in Belgium who thought they drove oin the right side of the road, in fact they drive on the wrong side, whereas we drive on the right side which is of course the left. 

Edited May 28, 2022 by Michael Hodgson

[Chris116]

31 minutes ago, Michael Hodgson said:

As I explained to my colleagues when working in Belgium who thought they drove oin the right side of the road, in fact they drive on the wrong side, whereas we drive on the right side which is of course the left. 

They drive on the right side of the road and we drive on the correct side of the road! 😁

[cessna152towser]

delete double post please

Edited May 28, 2022 by cessna152towser

[cessna152towser]

5 hours ago, Chris116 said:

They drive on the right side of the road and we drive on the correct side of the road! 😁

 

6 hours ago, Michael Hodgson said:

As I explained to my colleagues when working in Belgium who thought they drove oin the right side of the road, in fact they drive on the wrong side, whereas we drive on the right side which is of course the left.

We used to drive on the left of the road and now we drive on what's left of the road.