Moderators AY Mod Posted February 2, 2022 Author Moderators Share Posted February 2, 2022 9 minutes ago, The Stationmaster said: Or simply representing a vast improvement on no Vanwide at all Or a VEA which isn't. https://www.hattons.co.uk/8638/hornby_r6178u_vea_van_in_br_brown_unboxed_/stockdetail 11 minutes ago, The Stationmaster said: the purchase of one is not compulsory. Not far off it in this house once I've looked back at 20yo kitbuilt ones. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PMP Posted February 2, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 2, 2022 5 minutes ago, Legend said: Meanwhile I'm just glad I picked up their last iteration of vent vans for £10-£12, £40 for one is eyewatering . No thanks They’re new tooling, and £30-40 is around the price of new tool single vehicles these days. 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter749 Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 I was hoping that having made a 319/769 in N Gauge that a OO Gauge version might be on the cards - but then the £350+ price would put me off. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Legend Posted February 2, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 2, 2022 2 minutes ago, PMP said: They’re new tooling, and £30-40 is around the price of new tool single vehicles these days. Oxford Banana Vans I'm aware they are new tooling, but as I fortunately have several of the old ones , and dare I say it Mainline ones before that , I'll not be bothered . I appreciate it'll be a step up in detail but its one I dont need . 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 3 minutes ago, PMP said: They’re new tooling, and £30-40 is around the price of new tool single vehicles these days. Or £14.50.... https://www.hattons.co.uk/626687/oxford_rail_or76ban001_lner_10t_banana_van_in_lner_bauxite_632882/stockdetail 3 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PMP Posted February 2, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 2, 2022 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Legend said: Oxford Banana Vans I'm aware they are new tooling, but as I fortunately have several of the old ones , and dare I say it Mainline ones before that , I'll not be bothered . I appreciate it'll be a step up in detail but its one I dont need . Yup that ones cheaper than the average. Meanwhile most new tool releases are in the £30-40 range, and they aren’t going to get any cheaper. You mentioned you’ve got several of the older ones, who previously did a RTR GE banana van? Edited February 2, 2022 by PMP Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Legend Posted February 2, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 2, 2022 2 minutes ago, Peter749 said: I was hoping that having made a 319/769 in N Gauge that a OO Gauge version might be on the cards - but then the £350+ price would put me off. Peter , possibly the issue here is that a 4 car unit in OO may come in at around £500. I think the 4 BEP is around that price . It maybe that Bachmann are waiting to see how well the BEP sells before doing more multiple units . 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold big jim Posted February 2, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 2, 2022 4 hours ago, newbryford said: To be pedantic…. theres always one! pleased with the NR DBSO, will defiantly be ordering that with my local shop so I can retire my converted Hornby one 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Legend Posted February 2, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 2, 2022 (edited) 14 minutes ago, PMP said: Yup that ones cheaper than the average. Meanwhile most new tool releases are in the £30-40 range, and they aren’t going to get any cheaper. You mentioned you’ve got several of the older ones, who previously did a RTR GE banana van? I was referring to previous post on Vent Vans . You'll be appalled to know that I 'm not really aware of all the different types , to me they are vent vans . I even run old Wrenn ones Edited February 2, 2022 by Legend 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PMP Posted February 2, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 2, 2022 14 minutes ago, Steamport Southport said: Or £14.50.... https://www.hattons.co.uk/626687/oxford_rail_or76ban001_lner_10t_banana_van_in_lner_bauxite_632882/stockdetail https://rapidotrains.co.uk/secr-10t-covered-goods-wagon/ https://rapidotrains.co.uk/gunpowder-vans/ It’s far easier to find the ‘normal’ RRP price for new tooling items, than finding the exception. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danemouth Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 I looked at the release list and my wallet breathed a sigh of relief - no "must haves" for me 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PMP Posted February 2, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 2, 2022 4 minutes ago, Legend said: I was referring to previous post on Vent Vans . So was I, but if for you a van is ‘just another van’ (nothing wrong with that), you’ve not made a realistic comparison with the normal 2022, and going forwards, prices for new tooling. https://rapidotrains.co.uk/gunpowder-vans Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob D2 Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, James Makin said: I hate to be 'that guy' but the MTA's are the wrong tooling sadly - the real ones are cut-down MKA 'Limpet's and have the bodystyle of equally spaced ribs on the side, rather than the EWS new-build MTA design that Bachmann have used - it's the equivalent of when Hornby when they're just jazzing up old tooling and hoping the modeller doesn't care enough about wagons I think! Hopefully makes them a bit of cash though to fund the good quality items The chassis can be improved with new springs and brake pipe detailing so all-in they can be a great fun project, but I'd start out with a secondhand one and a bit of bashing me thinks! Cheers, James I’m happy that you are that guy James , if they are that wrong I’m glad someone tells me TBH I just see pretty paint jobs and act like a magpie . Can I be the 470th to ad to the faded , “ my wallet has made a sigh of relief , started learning golf and run off with the au pair “, but I shudder at the cost of raw materials and labour now in China if these are indicative of companies RRP to keep going . I wish them the best of luck and the products are no less good . Edited February 2, 2022 by rob D2 Autocucumber 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 (edited) 22 minutes ago, PMP said: https://rapidotrains.co.uk/secr-10t-covered-goods-wagon/ https://rapidotrains.co.uk/gunpowder-vans/ It’s far easier to find the ‘normal’ RRP price for new tooling items, than finding the exception. Why pick out a manufacturer that is very expensive to make an invalid point? It's like saying I reckon a new Mini is too expensive for what it is and you saying "It's not as expensive as a Ferrari"..... Besides if you shop around you can get a discount of about a fiver off those Rapido wagons. So kind of makes your point even more invalid. https://www.hattons.co.uk/755698/rapido_trains_uk_906001_5_plank_open_wagon_diag_d1347_in_secr_grey_9601/stockdetail Jason Edited February 2, 2022 by Steamport Southport 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
centraltrains Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 Northern 150/1! That's something that's been missing for quite awhile, will probabbly end up buying... Would still love to see a London Midland liveried 150! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium amwells Posted February 2, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 2, 2022 2 hours ago, phil-b259 said: Please remember that this announcement from Bachmann only covers the next 3 months! That’s what I think the intention was stated as, but realistically this doesn’t hold. This isn’t a complaint, just an observation - we are still waiting for some models from the last set of announcements, while the announcements today seem to have delivery dates going up to August, which is around 6 months away. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig1989 Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 Definitely be ordering a nr dbso and possibly 47712 lady Diana Spencer to use on charter trains as lsl used it for Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
norfolkchinaclay Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 1 hour ago, big jim said: pleased with the NR DBSO, will defiantly be ordering that with my local shop so I can retire my converted Hornby one Me too Jim. Shame that the RSS livery 08 is for N gauge or I’d have had one of them too (in 00). Maybe they will do one later in the year… Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dunsignalling Posted February 2, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 2, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, Paul.Uni said: What are you basing the "current" price of one on? As to date Bachmann have not released a RRP for them. With a short wheelbase goods van and 4-wheel open ballast wagons at an RRP of £40, it seems reasonable to expect new coaches to be significantly more than double that. I think Bachmann will keep the Bulleids already announced below three figures, but it'll be interesting to see how much (or little) under. Whatever they have planned to follow them will almost inevitably break through the £100 level. John Edited February 2, 2022 by Dunsignalling 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dunsignalling Posted February 2, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 2, 2022 (edited) 57 minutes ago, amwells said: That’s what I think the intention was stated as, but realistically this doesn’t hold. This isn’t a complaint, just an observation - we are still waiting for some models from the last set of announcements, while the announcements today seem to have delivery dates going up to August, which is around 6 months away. In both cases, it probably reflects the slow boats from China having become much slower than before.... General impression is that they take four-to-six weeks longer nowadays than pre-pandemic. More intermediate stops and (possibly) travelling more slowly to save fuel. John Edited February 2, 2022 by Dunsignalling 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dunsignalling Posted February 2, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 2, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Steamport Southport said: Why pick out a manufacturer that is very expensive to make an invalid point? It's like saying I reckon a new Mini is too expensive for what it is and you saying "It's not as expensive as a Ferrari"..... Besides if you shop around you can get a discount of about a fiver off those Rapido wagons. So kind of makes your point even more invalid. https://www.hattons.co.uk/755698/rapido_trains_uk_906001_5_plank_open_wagon_diag_d1347_in_secr_grey_9601/stockdetail Jason AIUI, the Bachmann Vanwide will have an RRP around £40, so a real-world retail price between £34 and £36 if discounted by 10% to 15%. The Rapido wagons have RRP's of £33 and are being offered at £28 discounted. (Meaningless odd pennies omitted from all prices.) John Edited February 2, 2022 by Dunsignalling 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Hilux5972 Posted February 2, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 2, 2022 Sad to not see a WCRC 47 from the new tooling yet. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
D860 VICTORIOUS Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 47526 Have been looking at my pictures of this loco on the Waterloo-Exeter route,and the faded and unkempt condition looks to have been well represented. Well done Bachmann. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian_B Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 Is there a release date for the NR DBSO? Ian_B Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium curlypaws Posted February 2, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 2, 2022 19 minutes ago, Ian_B said: Is there a release date for the NR DBSO? May/June for the DBSOs according to the Bachmann site. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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