Andrew P Posted May 27, 2022 Author Share Posted May 27, 2022 15 minutes ago, Bogie said: I'm pretty happy with what you're doing. Couldn't care less about sound to be honest. However, I think you have a continuity problem with wardrobe. I've sacked my glamours Wardrobe assistant, so will do the next one naked, NOT🤓 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Bogie Posted May 27, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 27, 2022 Go on I dare you! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted May 27, 2022 Author Share Posted May 27, 2022 And in addition to the Video that is now on the previous page, here is a pic for the day. NOTE = I have NOT re sized this one like I normally do for RM Web, just as a try out. 11 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Kevin Johnson Posted May 27, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 27, 2022 Great video Andy. Your layout is definitely coming together nicely now. I liked the running sessions especially the BR Blues. 🙂 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted May 27, 2022 Author Share Posted May 27, 2022 28 minutes ago, Kevin Johnson said: Great video Andy. Your layout is definitely coming together nicely now. I liked the running sessions especially the BR Blues. 🙂 Cheers Kevin, your feedback is appreciated. 👍. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pwr Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 Rapidly becoming one of my favourites Andy. Thanks for another great video. Lookiing forward to the shots from Brockenhurst. Paul R 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted May 27, 2022 Author Share Posted May 27, 2022 1 hour ago, pwr said: Rapidly becoming one of my favourites Andy. Thanks for another great video. Lookiing forward to the shots from Brockenhurst. Paul R Thanks Paul, and thanks for the two Green coaches, as you have seen, I did manage to get the Wrenn to run in the rake. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted May 27, 2022 Author Share Posted May 27, 2022 This morning, I added some Hedging to the Roadway near the Platform end. 12 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted May 27, 2022 Author Share Posted May 27, 2022 I then sorted out the Pub steps. 15 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted May 27, 2022 Author Share Posted May 27, 2022 Finally doing the bit alongside the Dairy and between the Tracks by the Provender Store. 15 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winslow Boy Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 Mr P I have a suggestion to make. I think you should have a go at painting some sort of relief on the back scene behind the dairy. Why do I suggest this. Well you've proven yourself on more than one occasion to be a very good painter. You've painted your own back-scenes as well as doing paintings for your own enjoyment so you clearly have an artistic eye. Additionally you've demonstrated that you have an understanding of proportion and placement with the siting of the various features and structures. I know you were concerned about the dairy due to its location but you took a risk and adapted the building and it turned out to worth it. So by adding some detail to the backscene it'll give the illusion that the building extends further and doesn't just stop abruptly as it appears now. I won't be at all offended if you go and tell me to take a running ........, but I really do think that this something that you are capable of and that it will add to your already magnificent layout. Cheers Ian 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted May 27, 2022 Author Share Posted May 27, 2022 1 hour ago, Winslow Boy said: Mr P I have a suggestion to make. I think you should have a go at painting some sort of relief on the back scene behind the dairy. Why do I suggest this. Well you've proven yourself on more than one occasion to be a very good painter. You've painted your own back-scenes as well as doing paintings for your own enjoyment so you clearly have an artistic eye. Additionally you've demonstrated that you have an understanding of proportion and placement with the siting of the various features and structures. I know you were concerned about the dairy due to its location but you took a risk and adapted the building and it turned out to worth it. So by adding some detail to the backscene it'll give the illusion that the building extends further and doesn't just stop abruptly as it appears now. I won't be at all offended if you go and tell me to take a running ........, but I really do think that this something that you are capable of and that it will add to your already magnificent layout. Cheers Ian Interesting BUT. You come up against one dimension verses three dimension and naa the twain shall mix, which is why I don't put building on my Backscene. For example; One dimension painted on, and looking from the front, this is what you would see. Looking from the right you would get this. Looking from the left you would get this, which you SHOULD NOT SEE. Putting Tree there would be a better solution, or scrap it all together. 8 1 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winslow Boy Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 44 minutes ago, Andrew P said: Interesting BUT. You come up against one dimension verses three dimension and naa the twain shall mix, which is why I don't put building on my Backscene. For example; One dimension painted on, and looking from the front, this is what you would see. Looking from the right you would get this. Looking from the left you would get this, which you SHOULD NOT SEE. Putting Tree there would be a better solution, or scrap it all together. I see you have considered it and more comprehensively than me it would seem. So then of the three options I pick the last one. I'll now go and write a hundred lines of 'i will not ask Mr P to do something that he's already considered and dismissed' if that's alright with you Sir. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted May 27, 2022 Author Share Posted May 27, 2022 14 minutes ago, Winslow Boy said: I see you have considered it and more comprehensively than me it would seem. So then of the three options I pick the last one. I'll now go and write a hundred lines of 'i will not ask Mr P to do something that he's already considered and dismissed' if that's alright with you Sir. NO, No no, on the contrary, I'm glad you raised the issues, and TBH its still one that is bugging me whenever I look at it, or at Photos of it. I never have likes Half relief for this very reason. Have a look at this, then turn your screen so you view the main house from the left. Now look at the second house from the right or left. Its a very difficult subject to get right. 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winslow Boy Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 2 hours ago, Andrew P said: NO, No no, on the contrary, I'm glad you raised the issues, and TBH its still one that is bugging me whenever I look at it, or at Photos of it. I never have likes Half relief for this very reason. Have a look at this, then turn your screen so you view the main house from the left. Now look at the second house from the right or left. Its a very difficult subject to get right. I always liked technical drawing especially the projections. I wonder if a mirror might work? It'll have to be shaped and quite small but what do think 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted May 27, 2022 Author Share Posted May 27, 2022 4 minutes ago, Winslow Boy said: I always liked technical drawing especially the projections. I wonder if a mirror might work? It'll have to be shaped and quite small but what do think So, you look at it strait on and what do you see? your face, and at an angle it would be fine, but you would still also see across the room. Here's what I did with a row of cottages on Masons Lane, should have done the other side as well. 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winslow Boy Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 1 minute ago, Andrew P said: So, you look at it strait on and what do you see? your face, and at an angle it would be fine, but you would still also see across the room. Here's what I did with a row of cottages on Masons Lane, should have done the other side as well. Ok Mr P. I'll stop coming up with daft suggestions and get back to doing my lines. Repeat - I will not.......... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted May 28, 2022 Author Share Posted May 28, 2022 Glorious weather down in deepest Cornwall yesterday, as the 11.55 Service from Penzance arrived at Trewithen. 15 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Ray H Posted May 28, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 28, 2022 I reckon the branch is on borrowed time looking at the signs of the (already) lifted track in the most recent picture😄 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Donw Posted May 28, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 28, 2022 There was an article in the old Model railway news many years ago about doing buildings on backscenes by someone who I believe was an architect (Maurice Bradley IIRC) . You can only use true perspective in the viewing is restricted to one view point. he didn't use perspective on the buildings just made them smaller the further back and always a threequarter view. The real problem as Andy points out is the transition from 3d to 2d . Gables ends on low relief can look odd when you move from square on because you would expect to see the sides of the roof. A pitched roof as Andy has on his dairry looks much better and using a tree as Andy suggests will hid the fact that there is no gable end seen from the side. Low relief building look better if there is a row of them because you do not expect to see the sides looking from an angle because the building either side block the view. It might be possible to paint a roof of another building visible behind or to one side of the low relief one suggesting more building on the site but not unless you are a better painter than me. Don 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PeterBB Posted May 28, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 28, 2022 18 hours ago, Andrew P said: This morning, I added some Hedging to the Roadway near the Platform end. I see the lack of council workers has led to extensive growth on the bridge! 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PeterBB Posted May 28, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 28, 2022 3 hours ago, Andrew P said: Glorious weather down in deepest Cornwall yesterday, as the 11.55 Service from Penzance arrived at Trewithen. I see Beeching did get there after all as evidenced by the remains of track removal. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted May 28, 2022 Author Share Posted May 28, 2022 10 hours ago, Ray H said: I reckon the branch is on borrowed time looking at the signs of the (already) lifted track in the most recent picture😄 Don't speak to soon Ray, I've been to a show today and come home with ideas. 😅 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted May 28, 2022 Author Share Posted May 28, 2022 9 hours ago, Donw said: There was an article in the old Model railway news many years ago about doing buildings on backscenes by someone who I believe was an architect (Maurice Bradley IIRC) . You can only use true perspective in the viewing is restricted to one view point. he didn't use perspective on the buildings just made them smaller the further back and always a threequarter view. The real problem as Andy points out is the transition from 3d to 2d . Gables ends on low relief can look odd when you move from square on because you would expect to see the sides of the roof. A pitched roof as Andy has on his dairry looks much better and using a tree as Andy suggests will hid the fact that there is no gable end seen from the side. Low relief building look better if there is a row of them because you do not expect to see the sides looking from an angle because the building either side block the view. It might be possible to paint a roof of another building visible behind or to one side of the low relief one suggesting more building on the site but not unless you are a better painter than me. Don I'm RUBBISH at painting Buildings, and perspective so I'll find a Tree.🙄 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted May 28, 2022 Author Share Posted May 28, 2022 8 hours ago, PeterBB said: I see the lack of council workers has led to extensive growth on the bridge! I agree but its not a Bridge Peter. Its just a Road. 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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