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It is a line that has something for everyone and 'quirky' traffic in almost all eras. Even a small station like Conwy has tons of modelling potential, while Bangor, Llandudno Jnc, Llandudno, Holyhead and Rhyl are big stations and then you've got places like Mostyn Quay, or the branch lines off of it, all of which have tons of potential.

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4 hours ago, Steven B said:

 

 

LWB air-braked vans were used on the Amlwch chemical traffic, usually VAA, VBA or VDA but VIX ferry vans were also seen.

 

 

Used as barrier wagons.

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Petroleum coke traffic:    http://www.penmorfa.com/Archive/three.htm 

 

Amlwch traffic:                  http://www.penmorfa.com/Archive/one.html

 

Sulphur & Roadstone:     http://www.penmorfa.com/Archive/two.html

 

Point of Ayr:                      http://www.penmorfa.com/Archive/ten.htm

 

Flask Trains:                      http://www.penmorfa.com/Archive/thirtyone.htm                   

 

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6 hours ago, Morello Cherry said:

 

Excellent photos. I always thought  Blaenau Ffestiniog in either pre-1946 or post-1982  form would be interesting to model but probably impossible.  I am not sure how you could capture Blaenau in all its atmospheric grey and drizzly glory.

 

I'm working on it.

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The Eastern approach to Rhyl station still has engineers' sidings in regular use and signalbox (now disused since the semaphores went about 3-4 years ago), set between two road overbridges, that could form the basis of a compact layout.

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40 minutes ago, BernardTPM said:

The Eastern approach to Rhyl station still has engineers' sidings in regular use and signalbox (now disused since the semaphores went about 3-4 years ago), set between two road overbridges, that could form the basis of a compact layout.


And if anyone wants photos I was born in Rhyl and still live there!

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On 19/05/2022 at 11:53, Reorte said:

 but I vaguely recall seeing that they were used for something else when the traffic they were built for stopped.

 

 

OT Wellingborough https://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/branhydritehopper/e3fdee103

and some ended their days going through Hoo Junction https://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/branhydritehopper/e6fd335a all along way from North Wales

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On 20/05/2022 at 10:33, Nick G said:


And if anyone wants photos I was born in Rhyl and still live there!


you have my condolences! 
 

Don’’t forget the as required trip working to c.c.crumps wagon works in connahs quay too for a bit of wagon variety 

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1 hour ago, Merfyn Jones said:

 

 

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That is fantastic. I love that you've gone for the FR station in its early 1980s form with the huts and no shelter. It really captures BF. I like the wandering sheep as well. Brings back plenty of memories of waiting in the rain for EoM or the Alco on a train of red carriages. Thank you for sharing.

 

I was looking again at the 2d53 site again and it mentions that goods traffic to BF stopped in 1984. It makes me wonder what would the traffic in and out of BF have been before then: Explosives, slate (as evidenced by the photo on the page) and it mentions coal in. Does anyone have any thoughts on what else might have been in. I assume that good traffic was worked to and from Llandudno Jnc worked by one of the locos from there and traffic was split/added to workings along the rest of the coast. Clearly it wasn't a lot of traffic as it ended in 84.

 

http://www.2d53.co.uk/blaenauffestiniog/Goods Yard.htm

 

 

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On 22/05/2022 at 08:01, Morello Cherry said:

 

That is fantastic. I love that you've gone for the FR station in its early 1980s form with the huts and no shelter. It really captures BF. I like the wandering sheep as well. Brings back plenty of memories of waiting in the rain for EoM or the Alco on a train of red carriages. Thank you for sharing.

 

I was looking again at the 2d53 site again and it mentions that goods traffic to BF stopped in 1984. It makes me wonder what would the traffic in and out of BF have been before then: Explosives, slate (as evidenced by the photo on the page) and it mentions coal in. Does anyone have any thoughts on what else might have been in. I assume that good traffic was worked to and from Llandudno Jnc worked by one of the locos from there and traffic was split/added to workings along the rest of the coast. Clearly it wasn't a lot of traffic as it ended in 84.

 

http://www.2d53.co.uk/blaenauffestiniog/Goods Yard.htm

 

 

Slate ceased in the 1960s, the explosives didn't begin until 1980s when the Cambrian line closed to loco hauled traffic.  Until the end of general goods traffic in the 70s there was just the coal and oil (Esso) traffic, which also had the flasks when they ran.

 

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3 hours ago, Merfyn Jones said:

Slate ceased in the 1960s, the explosives didn't begin until 1980s when the Cambrian line closed to loco hauled traffic.  Until the end of general goods traffic in the 70s there was just the coal and oil (Esso) traffic, which also had the flasks when they ran.

 

 

Thanks. Interesting, in the 2D53 page on the goods yard, the author reckons that there is a large slate block in a wagon to be transported, do you think he is wrong in his interpretation of the load

 

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1 hour ago, Morello Cherry said:

 

 

Thanks. Interesting, in the 2D53 page on the goods yard, the author reckons that there is a large slate block in a wagon to be transported, do you think he is wrong in his interpretation of the load

 

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Looking at the photo, it's difficult to see what the load might be, but I would say that it, if it is slate, then the wagon is significantly overloaded. The load looks to be about 2 cubic metres, which would weigh in excess of 20 tonnes 

The wagon itself is a 13t Medium open, which appears to be in Departmental Service( there  are Overhead Live Wire signs next to the door latches on either end) . When I've seen large pieces of stone being sent by rail, the wagons have almost invariably been 22t Plate wagons. 

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5 hours ago, Fat Controller said:

Looking at the photo, it's difficult to see what the load might be, but I would say that it, if it is slate, then the wagon is significantly overloaded. The load looks to be about 2 cubic metres, which would weigh in excess of 20 tonnes 

The wagon itself is a 13t Medium open, which appears to be in Departmental Service( there  are Overhead Live Wire signs next to the door latches on either end) . When I've seen large pieces of stone being sent by rail, the wagons have almost invariably been 22t Plate wagons. 

 

I totally agree with the fat controller, about the weight, even if they could get a block that size out in one piece.

I think both wagons are departmental and if I remember correctly there was an open wagon locally with a water tank and the van possibly was carrying bagged cement. A lot of work on the branch involved pointing the brickwork on the many bridges and tunnels. 

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On 19/05/2022 at 13:16, Steven B said:

 

The hoppers are TOPS code JGA

 

Before using JGA wagons the Penmaenmawr - Hope Street roadstone workings used HKV wagons as pictured below (not to be confused by the similar looking but shorter HJV wagons used on the Mostyn sulphur traffic).

 

Other traffic not mentioned yet was TTA fuel oil to Holyhead, although I assume that went as part of the Speedlink workings until they ended, and a short term flow of steel coil for export from Mostyn in 1989 (in the 90's more steel was transported through Mostyn).

 

 

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