eldomtom2 Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 The arrival of a completely new (to the UK) scale with no prior trade support poses an interesting question that can only rarely be asked: what should be produced first? Hopefully this thread can serve as a container for all the frothing that has been going on in the Peco and Heljan threads. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
britishcolumbian Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 Well the 31, 08, Austerity 0-6-0, and 66 have been announced already... My 2d? First, make rolling stock suitable for use with these... and then, other locomotives used in the same areas. Next, consider that Peco has set itself on a GWR theme for their structure kits: so the rolling stock/locomotives should, in the beginning, take that into consideration too. Sure, this wouldn't attract someone wanting to model, say, Scotland... but I think putting the emphasis in the early days on a particular region will draw more people in than if nothing of what's available in model form was ever actually together in one place in the real world. Focus on a particular area (or two) at the outset... once that's taken some root, can always expand into others later! 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium andythenorth Posted June 16, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 16, 2022 I would like a froth tanker. In 4 axle and bogie versions. 🙂 3 1 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allegheny1600 Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 Personally, I would really like to see the following; WR: classes 14, 22 & 35 GWR: an 0-4-2T, an 0-6-0T (pannier) and a 2-6-2T (prairie) Plus some suitable rolling stock! That would keep me going for several years at least. 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodenhead Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 (edited) This is a rubbish wishlist - I cannot hide it!! 😆 Edited June 16, 2022 by woodenhead 1 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium spamcan61 Posted June 16, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 16, 2022 15 minutes ago, britishcolumbian said: Well the 31, 08, Austerity 0-6-0, and 66 have been announced already... The 08 and Austerity have been stated as possibilities, unlike the 31 which has been officially announced, so I wouldn't bracket them together at this point. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
britishcolumbian Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 3 minutes ago, woodenhead said: This is a rubbish wishlist - I cannot hide it!! 😆 As if your comment is better? 😉 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
britishcolumbian Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 2 minutes ago, spamcan61 said: The 08 and Austerity have been stated as possibilities, unlike the 31 which has been officially announced, so I wouldn't bracket them together at this point. Fair point Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodenhead Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 2 minutes ago, britishcolumbian said: As if your comment is better? 😉 It's not I agree, but I should be able to hide a topic I don't want to see and I cannot. But in the spirit of the thread before I leave Mk1 Suburbans to go with the class 31 14xx, Pannier and 45xx plus Autocoach and B set 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hodgson Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 The first locomotive to be produced for a new railway should be a contractor's locomotive so they can build the line. 2 1 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium andythenorth Posted June 16, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 16, 2022 Just now, Michael Hodgson said: The first locomotive to be produced for a new railway should be a contractor's locomotive so they can build the line. Working steam shovel? Full DCC? Sorry, it's very hard to not loon around in this thread. We all know where it's going: the Accurascale wishlist, but x100 💰😜 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Keith Addenbrooke Posted June 16, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 16, 2022 Good question. The Class 31 was a nice surprise, but I can see the logic. There's longevity - including heritage lines, plus a wide choice of liveries including Derby RTC (and perhaps Network Rail yellow in the future), as well as a reasonable geographic spread. Depending on batch size, tooling for the versions without a headcode box may be possible later on too. While not firm announcements in the same way, the possible 08 would also score highly for similar reasons, and is all you need for a micro-layout, while an Austerity could perhaps reflect the popularity of Industrial locomotives in OO-Gauge. The possible Gaugemaster Class 66 has also got commercial benefits, including European variants. Unless Hornby come in with a starter train set and Setrack, I'm guessing the initial target market will be those who expect matching rolling stock (to today's standards), as @britishcolumbian and others have indicated above: so quality over quantity / variety to start with for r-t-r. Personally, I would welcome a Pannier, B-Set (2 coaches from one set of tooling), and a Toad Brake Van to go with the Peco Buildings, but I do like GW Branch Lines. My other thought would be something to run under the Catenary announced by Gaugemaster (not just a 66). I don't usually try speculating, and I'm trying to avoid re-listing the N-Gauge products I remember from the 1970s, but one thing I do know I'd like to see from Peco would be the equivalent of their 009 GR range of couplings, coupler pockets and wagon / coach bogies. For Narrow Gauge modelling, I find them incredibly easy to use and very helpful. Keith. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators AY Mod Posted June 16, 2022 Moderators Share Posted June 16, 2022 1 hour ago, woodenhead said: This is a rubbish wishlist - I cannot hide it!! 😆 You lot can think up jobs faster than I can do them! It was because it's a new forum area and the settings are a faff. I've done it now but I'm so tempted to make that a Premium permission across the site. 5 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators AY Mod Posted June 16, 2022 Moderators Share Posted June 16, 2022 14 minutes ago, Michael Hodgson said: The first locomotive to be produced for a new railway should be a contractor's locomotive so they can build the line. Ooh, a little MW I Class would hook me. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Storey Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 (edited) It's got to be Mark 1's, suburban then mainline. They go with just about anything in the last 60-odd years. Then some vans, CCT, VEA to VDA. Then some opens and hoppers. That takes us to about 2029....... Personally, I would love to see some 33's, 73's and some 50's/60's EMUs (and DMUs) so I could start the new layout with much more room, but I think I am stuck with 00 for a long while yet. Edited June 16, 2022 by Mike Storey 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium andythenorth Posted June 16, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 16, 2022 I would like to see 1 item per year, in 12 colours. Gives me time to save up and plan ahead. But also it would be nice if they were surprises, and weren't announced before I can buy them. And they should be in lots of liveries. But only the ones I want specific to my era and preferred location. And whatever it is, I should be able to say it should have been something else. 1 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold smt009 Posted June 16, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 16, 2022 Personally I would like something LMS. I'm very tempted to start drawing up LMS wagons and make them available as 3D prints but I doubt the demand would be there. Despite recently turning 60, i don't remember steam so I have to recognise that diesels and electrics are going to be a better investment for manufacturers. As an aside, has anyone heard of a manufacturer contemplating producing wagon and coach wheels? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium andythenorth Posted June 16, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 16, 2022 5 minutes ago, smt009 said: As an aside, has anyone heard of a manufacturer contemplating producing wagon and coach wheels? Do you want very specific UK wheels? Otherwise Tillig have them, not sure about UK shipping https://www.tillig.com/eng/Ersatzteile.html Arnold, Piko, others may also have them. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
britishcolumbian Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 25 minutes ago, smt009 said: As an aside, has anyone heard of a manufacturer contemplating producing wagon and coach wheels? There is also Modmueller in Germany who do wheelsets of various sorts, different diameters, spoked wheels, etc both to NEM and RP25 dimensions... their website, however, is down at the moment with a "wir sind bald wieder da" message (we'll be back soon)... and a US source for a vast array of wheels is North West Short Line (nwsl.com) 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Flying Pig Posted June 16, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 16, 2022 2 hours ago, AY Mod said: Ooh, a little MW I Class would hook me. You'll need some v-tippers and a big hammer to distress the track. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators AY Mod Posted June 16, 2022 Moderators Share Posted June 16, 2022 3 minutes ago, Flying Pig said: and a big hammer to distress the track. I'll just hand lay it, a head start at being rubbish. 4 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
britishcolumbian Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 I've made my sensible comment, now for my wishful thinking: give us a Hymek and a Western... Mk Is... and I dunno enough yet to say what I want for goods stock, but I could link a photo... :P 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
whart57 Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 3 hours ago, AY Mod said: Ooh, a little MW I Class would hook me. An N gauge Pannier has the right wheelbase and wheel size for such a loco in 3mm scale, but you have to reverse it as the middle axle is closer to the rear axle on the MW. Even then it is very tight to get the body on. A TT:120 model of such a MW would be even smaller. It would be pushing the limits of what was possible. Shame, cos I'd go for one too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
britishcolumbian Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 11 minutes ago, whart57 said: It would be pushing the limits of what was possible. Arnold did a Köf in 1:120... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartinRS Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 A BR standard brake van, a 16 ton mineral wagon and a 9ft wheelbase chassis kit with wheels and couplings. A chassis kit would require no new tooling (because of the 7 plank wagon) and would kickstart 3D and card models. With modern computer printers it should be easy to produce a wide range of wagons and vans in card or heavy paper stock. Have any details been released about the length (over headstocks) of the proposed PECO 7 plank wagon? 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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