Moderators AY Mod Posted January 9, 2023 Moderators Share Posted January 9, 2023 Superseding Hornby's HM6000 control system there will now be a HM7000 Bluetooth control system a new range of sound (now branded as TXS Triplex sound - so named because it can play three sound simultaneously) and non-sound Bluetooth decoders and stay-alives are announced with accessories to integrate with existing DCC systems. The customer buys the 'blank' sound decoder and downloads and installs the appropriate sound file to the decoder. Non -sound Example diagrams. Late price changes compared to those noted above. 7 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Watto1990 Posted January 10, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 10, 2023 Now this is very interesting! Excited to get my hands on a couple of the sound decoders. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Kris Posted January 10, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 10, 2023 The ability to easily download and change sounds on your decoder is a game changer. 3 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pmorgancym Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 This is probably the most interesting thing in the whole release. If they get the software right. Plug and and play sound and stay alive no messing about with soldering. Might be Hornby taking DCC seriously finally. It's all down to pricing and implementation. If they price the system at a premium it needs to be comparable to the premium systems. My worry is it will be a budget system sold at a premium rate. 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edge Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 Now this could be a massive deal for them - bravo on this one 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSpencer Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 I will need to look more at the details, but sounds very promising. Bravo Hornby. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Harlequin Posted January 10, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 10, 2023 (edited) The use of mini plugs everywhere and sugarcube speakers and enclosures supplied with the decoders is great for the beginner. Wireles upgrades potentially very interesting if they supply a wider range of sounds. I notice the current list does not include any GWR locos. Edit: Just realised: Wireless reading and writing of CVs coiuld be a big step forward if my understanding is correct because there's then no need for a programming track and presumably it bypasses that ancient system of working the motor backwards and forwards as part of the reading process. Hopefully, there will also be an Android version of the App. But "XXX sounds" with "creep mode"? Maybe someone should have thought about the product name a bit more. Edited January 10, 2023 by Harlequin Realised what wireless CV reading writing actually means! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pmorgancym Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 2 minutes ago, Harlequin said: The use of mini plugs everywhere and sugarcube speakers and enclosures supplied with the decoders is great for the beginner. Wireles upgrades potentially very interesting if they supply a wider range of sounds. I notice the current list does not include any GWR locos. Hopefully, there will also be an Android version of the App. But "XXX sounds" with "creep mode"? Maybe someone should have thought about the product name a bit more. There's no android version? That seems a bit of an oversight Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leonk Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 They aren’t going to ignore over half the market, there will have to be an android app. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pmorgancym Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 You'd like to hope so.... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Hilux5972 Posted January 10, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 10, 2023 Great to see speakers and stay alives are simple plug ins. 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyRule1 Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 22 hours ago, AY Mod said: Superseding Hornby's HM6000 control system The use of the word "superseding" rather than "alongside" seems to be saying that the HM6000 is being dropped. I hope this is not the case. I have used the HM6000 system for over a year on both N & OO layouts and found it as good a analogue control system as any hardware based system. I was looking to increase my use this year with some point controls. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Griffin Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 Now this looks very good. wonder if i could Bluetooth some tunes through the speaker form my iphone! 😀 2 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pmorgancym Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 23 minutes ago, Hilux5972 said: Great to see speakers and stay alives are simple plug ins. They next step.has to be tooll up locos that are easily.accessibly 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lyneux Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 Very little info on how this works technically. It looks like the legacy dongle is an interface via xpressnet? Could be useful for owners of compatible systems. Makes perfect sense as a system. Guy 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butler Henderson Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 Decoder sizes look a bit big, 6 pin in particular, which is going to limit the locos that can be fitted. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium jjb1970 Posted January 10, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 10, 2023 Personally I have zero interest in sound, but I recognize many love sound and for those people this is a brilliant development. I think this is the most significant part of the whole package of announcements. Hornby have a much better pedigree in digital control than generally credited, I still remember Zero One, my boy and I used Railmaster on our trainset and their low cost sound system opened up sound to a new audience. This continues that tradition, well done them on this one. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators AY Mod Posted January 10, 2023 Author Moderators Share Posted January 10, 2023 49 minutes ago, leonk said: They aren’t going to ignore over half the market, there will have to be an android app. 7 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold deepfat Posted January 10, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 10, 2023 28 minutes ago, Dan Griffin said: Now this looks very good. wonder if i could Bluetooth some tunes through the speaker form my iphone! 😀 Well you could get the coronation scot to play the coronation scot but I expect the storage on the sound chip will limit how long the sound can be 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
meatloaf Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 So have i got to use the HM7000 control unit? Say i want to buy a sound decoder to fit into an existing loco - its not a case of installing it and away you go as its blank. So i need there unit to write the files to the decoder? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eldomtom2 Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 This is an interesting idea, but it seems there is no physical controller and it has to be done through an app. I do not trust Hornby not to drop the system after a few years. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold RedgateModels Posted January 10, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 10, 2023 (edited) interesting so $50,000 question, do the new decoders also function as regular DCC decoders? I guess you can use the legacy dongle to control non bluetooth decoders with the new app, if this is the case then I can see me upgrading to a Z21 - but then the Z21 has it's own wifi app ...... Edited January 10, 2023 by RedgateModels 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold MikeParkin65 Posted January 10, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 10, 2023 Key for me - will the steam projects synch the exhaust sound with the wheel revolutions? If they do then Hornby have a game changer on their hands. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DK123GWR Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 12 minutes ago, meatloaf said: So have i got to use the HM7000 control unit? Say i want to buy a sound decoder to fit into an existing loco - its not a case of installing it and away you go as its blank. So i need there unit to write the files to the decoder? Surely the file is sent via Bluetooth? I think the Legacy Dongle (is this what you mean by 'control unit'?) plugs into regular DCC controllers so you can control non-Bluetooth (Bluetoothless?) DCC locos from the app. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium spamcan61 Posted January 10, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 10, 2023 (edited) I wonder if this system shares similar chipsets / underlying design technology to the 'Blunami' system, which does the DCC/loco control over Bluetooth thing if I've read their blurb correctly. https://soundtraxx.com/blunami The one interesting Hornby announcement for me this year anyway, this looks like an impressive system Edited January 10, 2023 by spamcan61 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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