RMweb Gold Oldddudders Posted December 19, 2010 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 19, 2010 Tickled by spelling on this just received. 3 possibilities : 1. Ancient spelling since shortened 2. Trader's wagon-painting chappie got it wrong 3. Someone at Dapol will never live it down! Any ideas? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJH584 Posted December 19, 2010 Share Posted December 19, 2010 I'll go with option 3 :lol: David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted December 19, 2010 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 19, 2010 Had to be that long to evenly fill the space between 'London' and 'Cardiff' using the same size font so the designer chucked in the extra letter for the sake of neatness. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady_Ava_Hay Posted December 19, 2010 Share Posted December 19, 2010 So will I, although the chap at Dapol might well clasp his hands together and bow low with the words Ah So! So solly, mister. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalo Posted December 19, 2010 Share Posted December 19, 2010 Option 2 was not unknown. This was perhaps the case in a batch of wagons built by in 1893 Gloucester RC&W for E. Baily & Son of Frome which proclaimed them to be "Malsters" (missing t). I thinks someone (Slaters?) once made a kit of this one. There must be other examples. Nick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Oldddudders Posted December 19, 2010 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted December 19, 2010 So will I, although the chap at Dapol might well clasp his hands together and bow low with the words Ah So! So solly, mister. Indeed one never knows where the artwork for such designs is prepared, here or there. It will look fine whatever, and I can award a prize to any visitor who spots it! One of my Rock Island albums has a pic of a boxcar apparently belonging to the Rock Isalnd, with the caption suggesting it was a bit early and the coffee hadn't quite kicked in. Anyway I obviously like it, because it now has Kadee #18s installed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trisonic Posted December 19, 2010 Share Posted December 19, 2010 It's obviously South Hampton, New Hampshire - look on a map.......... Glad you got rid of those awful, awful droopy couplers, Ian. Best, Pete. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pennine MC Posted December 19, 2010 Share Posted December 19, 2010 Sarf ' ampton...drop an H, gain one somewhere else, easy come, easy go... I recall a model Mink in an early MRJ where the builder had placed the word VENTLATED on the end, not in error but because the full transfer wouldnt fit. You had to look really hard to notice Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerryO Posted December 19, 2010 Share Posted December 19, 2010 Same wagon is sold by http://www.crabpotvillage.co.uk/ shows correct spelling as also listing produced by Joe Greaves found at http://www.steaminde.../wagonindex.htm I will go with Number 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
charliepetty Posted December 19, 2010 Share Posted December 19, 2010 Same wagon is sold by http://www.crabpotvillage.co.uk/ shows correct spelling as also listing produced by Joe Greaves found at http://www.steaminde.../wagonindex.htm I will go with Number 3 Whhen spelt in Welsh there are always two H's. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Oldddudders Posted December 20, 2010 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted December 20, 2010 Whhen spelt in Welsh there are always two H's. In the same way that I recall a Welsh tat shop selling Wild West coaches marked Welsh Ffargo! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Oldddudders Posted December 20, 2010 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted December 20, 2010 It's obviously South Hampton, New Hampshire - look on a map.......... Glad you got rid of those awful, awful droopy couplers, Ian. Nothing droopy here, mate - even at 62, although further reference to Hamptons in that context could have the morality police on our case! Have used Kadees for more than 20 years, although admit they look more realistic on US models, where they bear a passing resemblance to the Real Thing. Just as practical on UK 4mm, though! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trisonic Posted December 20, 2010 Share Posted December 20, 2010 I just checked and there are no Hampton Wick's in the USA............must be lots of droopy couplers though 'cos of all the Ed ads on the telly........"say no more" etc., etc. Best, Pete. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Oldddudders Posted December 20, 2010 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted December 20, 2010 I just checked and there are no Hampton Wick's in the USA............must be lots of droopy couplers though 'cos of all the Ed ads on the telly........"say no more" etc., etc. I knew you'd get it! Years ago, when I worked for Silverlink Trains, I was doing some projects at Northampton. I wondered about a joint venture with South West Trains to merge Northampton and Southampton to produce one enormous Hampton. Colleagues expressed concern about a possible objection from Connex, representing the good - if short - burghers of Littlehampton! [With apologies to the Two Ronnies who pioneered that one about 30 years ago!] Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashcombe Posted December 20, 2010 Share Posted December 20, 2010 I knew you'd get it! Years ago, when I worked for Silverlink Trains, I was doing some projects at Northampton. I wondered about a joint venture with South West Trains to merge Northampton and Southampton to produce one enormous Hampton. Colleagues expressed concern about a possible objection from Connex, representing the good - if short - burghers of Littlehampton! [With apologies to the Two Ronnies who pioneered that one about 30 years ago!] You have to feel sorry for those who have to write "Littlehampton" as their place of birth! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Oldddudders Posted December 20, 2010 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted December 20, 2010 Do you feel it makes them less marriageable? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortliner Posted December 20, 2010 Share Posted December 20, 2010 Well Sammy Hagar had an CD called "Standing Hampton", and the people I feel sorry for are the dyslexics who live in Knutsford Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Nevard Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 You're all wrong, as someone from that southern town, we know it's really called 'Svamptun' Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Oldddudders Posted December 21, 2010 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted December 21, 2010 You're all wrong, as someone from that southern town, we know it's really called 'Svamptun' Zounds! So the spelling's even worse than I thought! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastwestdivide Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 My placenames dictionary records it as being Suthhamton with two Hs in a document from the year 962. (yes, over 1000 years ago). Edit: on the other hand, another placenames dictionary gives it as Suðhamton from the same year, with the third letter being an 'eth' representing the voiced sound of 'th' in 'them' Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Oldddudders Posted December 21, 2010 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted December 21, 2010 My placenames dictionary records it as being Suthhamton with two Hs in a document from the year 962. (yes, over 1000 years ago). Edit: on the other hand, nother placenames dictionary gives it as Suðhamton from the same year, with the third letter being an 'eth' representing the voiced sound of 'th' in 'them' You have just earned a Xmas card from the poor wretch at Dapol! I did wonder whether the spelling might have been elided over the years to reflect the awkwardness of the successive Hs. We may never know, but as an RTR purchase it sure has some potential to be discussed! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
deltic56 Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 Watch for it on ebay as very rare and desirable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastwestdivide Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 Well phonetically, there is only one H, the 'South' part of the word using 'TH' for the soft dental sound, and the 'hampton' part 'aving a haitch or not depending on 'ow you pronounce it. I blame Caxton for inventing the printing press and thus standardising spelling - before that, you just made it up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Phatbob Posted December 21, 2010 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 21, 2010 With reference to the second proposed cause of the error: according to local legend "The Malbororough Arms" in Chester owes its unique name to a signwriter's cock-up. So there is a prototype. On the plus side, it does make The Malbororough Arms the easiest pub in Britain to Google. B) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashcombe Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 Well phonetically, there is only one H, the 'South' part of the word using 'TH' for the soft dental sound, and the 'hampton' part 'aving a haitch or not depending on 'ow you pronounce it. I blame Caxton for inventing the printing press and thus standardising spelling - before that, you just made it up. And some still do! (make it up, that is.) And don't get me started on 'haitch' v 'aitch'!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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