trisonic Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 Ian, you must have been there in Winter - that's when you see it. It's an old area heating system mainly used in old apartment blocks. They had a spectacular blow out of a 48" mains a few years ago. Most tenement style buildings still do not have sprinkler systems in New York so they need the hydrants (which get opened up on hot days leading to low water pressure over large parts of town - which certainly doesn't help if there is a fire). Best, Pete. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
long island jack Posted September 20, 2012 Author Share Posted September 20, 2012 Once again guys thanks for all the imput,keep it coming,now just got to persuade SWMBO that we have to watch the blues brothers again. I also like watching American police dramas like "Cannon" (how sad),they always end up chasing the baddie's around downtown industrial areas and railroad yards (set dvd next time) Got a shopping list for Halifax now,think i'll struggle with most of it,but you never know. Ray Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trisonic Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 "Kojak" would be good for your timescale and location, Ray. Best, Pete. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold roundhouse Posted September 20, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 20, 2012 (edited) Pete I was trying to think of which TV series and thats the one - spot on! Yes I think I was in NYC outside the Summer the time I saw the steam coming out of the manholes but I dont htink it was Winter time but could be wrong. Our more recent visits have been in the Summer time. Ian Edited September 20, 2012 by roundhouse Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian Wintle Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 Starsky and Hutch would be another TV series - a little later than the period, but a fair amount of inner city. These days steam grates have people sleeping on them (at least they do in downtown Toronto). Adrian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave1905 Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 All of those are Los Angeles or San Francisco locations, probably the same locations in each series. There is one bridge over a rail yard that has been in virtually every cop movie or TV series produced in Hollywood for the last 30 years. Watch "Rocky" for eastern urban, it was filmed in Phillie. In one scene he's running along Delaware Ave, along the docks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trisonic Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 (edited) Acording to the writer of Kojak all the scene setting, driving, and general outside scenes were filmed in NYC over a period of two weeks at the beginning of each season. By the last season the entire production had moved to NYC. Yes they had to fill in a couple of scenes in downtown LA - parts of which are remarkably similar to Brooklyn btw. It still stands as what you would see in the US urban environment from 1973 to 1978 - we never suggested anything else, otherwise one is just nit-picking. In other words it is good enough for a non-specific urban model of that time. Best, Pete. Edited September 20, 2012 by trisonic Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
long island jack Posted September 20, 2012 Author Share Posted September 20, 2012 I don't think it matters which city it is,probably all the back alleys will look the same,won't they??? Ian don't think exhibition managers would appreciate steam coming out of the gratings,all those health and safety issuses!!!!!!!!! suppose i could use dry ice,no forget that,that means more work. Ray Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trisonic Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 (edited) When they are working on the system, Ray, they insert a little candy striped chimney which pokes out of the road about 8 feet high by about 10 inches in diameter, only a mere wisp usually escapes from this. Here's a link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_City_steam_system Click on the "2007 New York City steam explosion" to find out what happens when things go wrong.......... Best, Pete. Edited September 20, 2012 by trisonic Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave1905 Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 I don't think it matters which city it is,probably all the back alleys will look the same,won't they??? Just depends on how much attention you pay to them. All diesels look alike too, don't they? 8-) My favorites were in "Urban Cowboy" where Travolta is driving to the ###### tonk and you can see the mountains in the distance, from Houston or a low budget sci-fi flick set in the upper midwest and in the background, two blocks away, you can see palm trees. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold roundhouse Posted September 20, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 20, 2012 (edited) so far, we havent set any fire alarms off with the smoke coming out of some of our UP steamers on ROUNDHOUSE! we have had layouts around us complaining that our smoke has affected their rails conductivity and running. However it didnt affect us and the smoke fluid is often used as a rail cleanet. It certainly works well on the G gauge in our garden. Edited September 21, 2012 by roundhouse Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trisonic Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 (edited) Just depends on how much attention you pay to them. All diesels look alike too, don't they? 8-) My favorites were in "Urban Cowboy" where Travolta is driving to the ###### tonk and you can see the mountains in the distance, from Houston or a low budget sci-fi flick set in the upper midwest and in the background, two blocks away, you can see palm trees. In "Austin Powers" you can see the Santa Monica mountains just to the north of Regent Street, London...................... Btw you'll be able to use the "59th Street Bridge Song" for your layout aka "Feeling Groovy".........of course if you're like me it would drive you mad after ten minutes. Best, Pete. Edited September 21, 2012 by trisonic 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
long island jack Posted September 21, 2012 Author Share Posted September 21, 2012 Looks like i'm going to have to watch a lot of tele/films for ideas and cockups. Done the layout sign today,to look like a American road sign (near enough that will do) just the railroad logo's to find on internet,and some wat to attach them not best photo,think auto focus has gone on the camera. Ray 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
long island jack Posted September 26, 2012 Author Share Posted September 26, 2012 Not done much since my last post,except build/kitbash my team track crane from a old ratio kit i had from a failed british layout (pleased i got that out of my system),just need some cable for the hook and fix to the layout at a later date (knowing me i'll knock it flying while doing other things) don't those cars need weathering,my to do list never seems to get smaller. Ray 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold roundhouse Posted September 26, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 26, 2012 (edited) Ray You would never know that crane was a British outline one.. well until you said so anyway! Layout is just getting better and better. Look forward to seeing it at a show at some point. Ian Edited September 30, 2012 by roundhouse Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alcanman Posted September 26, 2012 Share Posted September 26, 2012 I agree, this layout just gets better. Those last pics remind me of John Wright's 'Federal Street'. Great work. Mal Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
long island jack Posted September 26, 2012 Author Share Posted September 26, 2012 Ian the beer monster want it at Barrow 2013,you'll see it there Mal High praise indeed,to be mention in the same sentance as J H Wright Thanks for all the kind remarks Ray Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talltim Posted September 26, 2012 Share Posted September 26, 2012 Really like the, layout, and you built it so quickly too! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold roundhouse Posted September 26, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 26, 2012 Ray Hopefully I will see it before then?? The new 'Quarry Line' Brighton line layout that Mike is building is possibly going to Barrow in 2013 if it gets far enough done by early next year. WIll no doubt discuss with the beer monster this October. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
long island jack Posted September 26, 2012 Author Share Posted September 26, 2012 Ray Hopefully I will see it before then?? The new 'Quarry Line' Brighton line layout that Mike is building is possibly going to Barrow in 2013 if it gets far enough done by early next year. WIll no doubt discuss with the beer monster this October. I'm in the hands of the Gods (exhibition managers) for that one. More fitting for Mal's post about J H Wright's 'Federal Street', i took a photo of a rather clean, Erie 'decapod' shunting the cement branch Ray 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Gwinnett Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 (edited) ... There might be some railroad signs, but not much more than this (rural town setting): Adrian I love that location:... Edited September 27, 2012 by Jon Gwinnett Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
long island jack Posted September 29, 2012 Author Share Posted September 29, 2012 Rust st building all fix now,just a couple more bits of detail to do and to finish the gap along the bottom of the buildings,(one of my pet hates),run out of detail stuff again, only thing i've got left are the switch stands. photo of #9101 switching some empty coal hoppers, which are being use to transfer crushed stone up the cement branch, where they are building a new freeway Ray 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold roundhouse Posted September 29, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 29, 2012 Ray Excellent looking. Your detailing puts mine on 'roundhouse' to shame but is giving me inspiration to do some work on it tomorrow. Any back to my beer overlooking the harbour in Portsmouth on this lovely sunny day! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LIRR Posted September 29, 2012 Share Posted September 29, 2012 Hi Ray, That is excellent work on the buildings. I am very impressed. If I may make a small observation, the fire escapes don't quite look right. usually the vertical descent ladder is only on the final flight from the 2nd (1st in UK) Floor to the 1st (Ground floor in UK) floor. Between the other floors the flights are angled. I don't have any photos to show you, but I see if I can take a couple today before it gets too dark. Andy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LIRR Posted September 29, 2012 Share Posted September 29, 2012 Hi Ray, These may not be the best examples, but should illustrate what I meant by angled flights. Andy 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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