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23 hours ago, DIW said:

My lad has one of those A4s with that tender chassis problem - Merlin, in Green livery, in the Liliput box. Fortunately I removed the tender chassis from its body before any massive longitudinal stress occurred to break the tender ends. The example to which Esmedune linked has been photographed still in its box, so there may well be a broken tender body adjacent to the cab. 

 

The tender chassis of my son's loco has continued to distort, such that it has a severe sideways bend. Fortunately (again) I had removed the motor, wheels and gears, and taken measurements of the chassis, before all that occurred.

 

Others of the Trix/Liliput A4s which have a different design of tender don't have that problem - my lad's Silver Link (in a Trix box) has a much better chassis design.

Sounds like they self-destruct over time!?

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This seller - joblotmansteven - seems to have a lot of railway items that look like they have been rescued from a skip…

 

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MODEL-RAILWAY-TRAIN-SHUNTER-OO-GAUGE-HAND-CRAFTED-OOAK-VINTAGE-/275048078143?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l6249&mkrid=710-127635-2958-0

 

Vintage? Possibly - I think it is Hornby from the 1980s. Hand crafted? Well, someone has sloshed paint onto it! “OOAK” - can’t decide if he is saying it is “OO” or “Oak” (to follow on from his “hand crafted” perhaps?). Anyway, it isn’t oak - it’s plastic! Most interesting part of the description, though, is “RAILWAY TRAIN SHUNTER” as in his description he describes it as a locomotive. I’ve messaged him already suggesting an unhappy buyer may report him for being deliberately misleading in his description…

 

Also missing a rear coupling … but he happens to have four of the appropriate type for sale in a separate listing!

 

What makes me think he is a bona fide chancer, though, is his listing for the following -

 

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MODEL-RAILWAY-Hornby-OO-GAUGE-SCENIC-ACCESSORIES-PORTER-TROLLEY-SACKS-/275053203679?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l6249&mkrid=710-127635-2958-0

 

£4.99 for a tiny piece of plastic? Plus another £4.35 postage on top?!

 

Check out his many listings of diecast toy cars for many more examples of items that look like they have been found at the bottom of people’s bins!

 

 

 

 

 

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On 03/12/2021 at 17:47, MrWolf said:

 

He might stand a better chance of shifting it as auction only at a tenner start.

 

I've always harboured the unfulfillable wish that eBay insisted, that, as it is allegedly an auction site, every item listed starts at 99p. If a seller is starting off with a minimum price then it isn't an auction IMHO.

The main problem with that notion though is that it would kill this thread stone dead!

 

Mike.

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4 hours ago, Enterprisingwestern said:

 

I've always harboured the unfulfillable wish that eBay insisted, that, as it is allegedly an auction site, every item listed starts at 99p. If a seller is starting off with a minimum price then it isn't an auction IMHO.

The main problem with that notion though is that it would kill this thread stone dead!

 

Mike.

Is it not the case that most items offered for sale at auctions other than on eBay have a minimum price, otherwise known as a reserve? And in most cases the amount thereof is not disclosed.

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10 minutes ago, CamRys said:

Is it not the case that most items offered for sale at auctions other than on eBay have a minimum price, otherwise known as a reserve? And in most cases the amount thereof is not disclosed.

 

Not at the real life auctions I've attended. Some items have a reserve, but most don't. That said, the starting price is largely set by the auctioneer and the auction house tends to have a minimum bid.

 

5 hours ago, Enterprisingwestern said:

If a seller is starting off with a minimum price then it isn't an auction IMHO.

 

Yes it is, because you bid upwards from the start, whatever that start may be.

 

If everything started at 99p then all the bidding would be via auction snipers in the last few seconds. At least this way, the seller can pick the amount they are willing to accept as a minimum. I've sold things on the basis that if I don't get my minimum, I'll hang on to it. As a buyer, I prefer a realistic start to a hidden reserve. Then I decide if I am willing to pay at least that much and know that a bid will secure the item if it wins.

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15 hours ago, SteveyDee68 said:

This seller - joblotmansteven - seems to have a lot of railway items that look like they have been rescued from a skip…

 

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MODEL-RAILWAY-TRAIN-SHUNTER-OO-GAUGE-HAND-CRAFTED-OOAK-VINTAGE-/275048078143?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l6249&mkrid=710-127635-2958-0

 

Vintage? Possibly - I think it is Hornby from the 1980s. Hand crafted? Well, someone has sloshed paint onto it! “OOAK” - can’t decide if he is saying it is “OO” or “Oak” (to follow on from his “hand crafted” perhaps?). Anyway, it isn’t oak - it’s plastic! Most interesting part of the description, though, is “RAILWAY TRAIN SHUNTER” as in his description he describes it as a locomotive. I’ve messaged him already suggesting an unhappy buyer may report him for being deliberately misleading in his description…

 

Also missing a rear coupling … but he happens to have four of the appropriate type for sale in a separate listing!

 

What makes me think he is a bona fide chancer, though, is his listing for the following -

 

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MODEL-RAILWAY-Hornby-OO-GAUGE-SCENIC-ACCESSORIES-PORTER-TROLLEY-SACKS-/275053203679?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l6249&mkrid=710-127635-2958-0

 

£4.99 for a tiny piece of plastic? Plus another £4.35 postage on top?!

 

Check out his many listings of diecast toy cars for many more examples of items that look like they have been found at the bottom of people’s bins!

 

 

I wonder if he is related to my local junk antique dealer who has had a whole shop window full of Lledo and associated promo diecast cars/vans/etc up for grabs at £15 a pop?  Worth a quid including postage these days of course...

 

He had a 1980's vintage Hornby Class 86 in the window the other day, wanted £90 for it, amazingly someone bought it....

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20 hours ago, SteveyDee68 said:

This seller - joblotmansteven - seems to have a lot of railway items that look like they have been rescued from a skip…

 

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MODEL-RAILWAY-TRAIN-SHUNTER-OO-GAUGE-HAND-CRAFTED-OOAK-VINTAGE-/275048078143?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l6249&mkrid=710-127635-2958-0

 

Vintage? Possibly - I think it is Hornby from the 1980s. Hand crafted? Well, someone has sloshed paint onto it! “OOAK” - can’t decide if he is saying it is “OO” or “Oak” (to follow on from his “hand crafted” perhaps?). Anyway, it isn’t oak - it’s plastic! Most interesting part of the description, though, is “RAILWAY TRAIN SHUNTER” as in his description he describes it as a locomotive. I’ve messaged him already suggesting an unhappy buyer may report him for being deliberately misleading in his description…

 

Also missing a rear coupling … but he happens to have four of the appropriate type for sale in a separate listing!

 

What makes me think he is a bona fide chancer, though, is his listing for the following -

 

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MODEL-RAILWAY-Hornby-OO-GAUGE-SCENIC-ACCESSORIES-PORTER-TROLLEY-SACKS-/275053203679?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l6249&mkrid=710-127635-2958-0

 

£4.99 for a tiny piece of plastic? Plus another £4.35 postage on top?!

 

Check out his many listings of diecast toy cars for many more examples of items that look like they have been found at the bottom of people’s bins!

 

Looks like my kids toy box collection that included my brother's toys from the 60's as well as my own all with the same paint chips and bent axles..

 

BTW on another point dont you love the description 'pre owned'... well I never so manufacturers dont send stuff out in that state as new or do they.... 'pre owned' got to be to look like that.

 

I remember going to a Tarmac site for a fire alarm install and being shown a mountain of road planeing's described as previously loved tarmac!

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23 hours ago, Phil Parker said:

 

Not at the real life auctions I've attended. Some items have a reserve, but most don't. That said, the starting price is largely set by the auctioneer and the auction house tends to have a minimum bid.

The reserve price does not have to be disclosed. Auctioneers can start the bidding wherever they wish and if there are no bids then the auctioneer can go lower until someone makes a bid. But the auctioneer can take bids "off the wall" until such (fictitious) bids reach the reserve. Good auctioneers are very adept at making off the wall bids seem real. Therefore, the existence of a reserve may not be apparent to people in the room, they might well get the impression that there was no reserve when in fact there was. Unless the auction house has a minimum bid and the seller is prepared to sell at that figure, putting an item up for auction without a reserve is a dangerous game for the seller as the item could (literally) be sold for a penny.

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Exactly; the auctioneer's job is to get the best price for the items under his hammer, and a good auctioneer is practicing a very highly skilled trade with a high level of psychology and technique.  eBay does not have auctioneers nor does it act as an auctioneer, or even as an auction house, it is simply an open bidding marketplace, capitalsim red in toof an' clore, where the pitiless iron laws of supply and demand rule all.  Except that they don't, they are interfered with by marketing techniques by the sellers, some of whom will try to bend the truth to the greatest extent possible within the limits allowed by the laws, and some of whom simply have no idea what the thing they are selling actually is (Ivatt tender described as shunting locomotive etc.).

 

It is of course this sort of activity, carried out by rank amatuers on one hand and by what the Irish call 'cute hoors' on the other that is the staple diet of this thread; free market shennanigans as a spectator sport.  Never forget that there's one born every minute, just make sure it isn't you.  Vivat Gostude!

 

Or, as they say in the pub when I show off my latest bargain on the phone, 'how much?'. 

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